(01-15-2018 01:31 PM)TOGC Wrote: I wouldn't be shocked if the team squeaks into the NIT. Of course, it would help if people would show up to watch a team that is a hell of a lot better than most people predicted.
The way the NCAA set up the NIT after they bought it you would almost have to be a bubble team in order to make it to the NIT. This is not your fathers NIT and teams you woudl see make it in decades past are not getting invites.
Mostly a place for P5 schools who finish above .500 and do not make the NCAA .
Plus the 1-bid leagues whose regular season champs do not win their conf tourn auto bid.
If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The way the NCAA set up the NIT after they bought it you would almost have to be a bubble team in order to make it to the NIT. This is not your fathers NIT and teams you woudl see make it in decades past are not getting invites.
Mostly a place for P5 schools who finish above .500 and do not make the NCAA .
Plus the 1-bid leagues whose regular season champs do not win their conf tourn auto bid.
If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
(01-15-2018 05:28 PM)bluebacker Wrote: Plus the 1-bid leagues whose regular season champs do not win their conf tourn auto bid.
If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
(01-15-2018 05:28 PM)bluebacker Wrote: Plus the 1-bid leagues whose regular season champs do not win their conf tourn auto bid.
If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
Pretty sure everyone outside of a handful of people which is the equivalent of hundreds of thousands would take the Cal years back in a heartbeat.
(01-15-2018 09:04 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Here we are as of this writing five games into an 18 game regular season AAC schedule:
1. Tied for 4th in standings
2. 10th place per KenPom (#162)
3. 8th place per RPI (now up to #95)
4. 9th place per Sagarin (#133)
5. 9th place per Massey Index (#125) (Edit - actually 8th)
We are 39% into the conference schedule and actual results are outperforming the metrics. It remains to be seen if the metrics are wrong, lag, or will prove correct.
As an aside, the notice has circulated lately that the AAC is a weaker league than expected. It maybe true in terms of NCAA bids (TBD), but at the moment Massey shows the AAC as the 7th best D-1 conference.
1/17/18 Update:
1. 4th in standings
2. 9th place per KenPom (#141)
3. 7th place per RPI (now up to #86)
4. 8th place per Sagarin (#119)
5. 8th place per Massey Index (#125) -not updated since Sunday - should have been 8th place in my last post (my error).
(01-15-2018 05:28 PM)bluebacker Wrote: Plus the 1-bid leagues whose regular season champs do not win their conf tourn auto bid.
If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2018 10:02 AM by salukiblue.)
(01-15-2018 05:47 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
Pretty sure everyone outside of a handful of people which is the equivalent of hundreds of thousands would take the Cal years back in a heartbeat.
Those years are gone, most likely forever. It was an amazing run! If you’re waiting for that, hope you see it in your lifetime.
(01-15-2018 05:47 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.
Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
(01-16-2018 06:32 PM)TOGC Wrote: Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
True, and so funny. Guess I missed all those posts where Saluki said we'd be 4th in conference 19 games into the schedule.
(01-16-2018 06:32 PM)TOGC Wrote: Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.
Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote: Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote: Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote: Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.
The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
True, and so funny. Guess I missed all those posts where Saluki said we'd be 4th in conference 19 games into the schedule.
Ummm...actually I had Memphis at 3-3 at this point which would put Memphis at....
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote: The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
True, and so funny. Guess I missed all those posts where Saluki said we'd be 4th in conference 19 games into the schedule.
Ummm...actually I had Memphis at 3-3 at this point which would put Memphis at....
4th place.
Sure. Hey Mr. Search, go back and search all your negative posts, and show us where you had Memphis alone in 4th place in the AAC 19 games into the schedule. We'll wait.
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote: The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.
We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
I'll even walk back the Bama "w" because I initially had it as an L but was caught up in the moment with their three starters missing.
If you include the Bama as a loss, I had Memphis going 10-3 in OOC and at this point in the AAC, I had Memphis at 3-3 (loss, not w vs. Temple).
I predicted Memphis to finish 9-9 in the AAC this year.
Remember this?
“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.
In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.
With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”
Of course I do.
That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.
That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote: We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
True, and so funny. Guess I missed all those posts where Saluki said we'd be 4th in conference 19 games into the schedule.
Ummm...actually I had Memphis at 3-3 at this point which would put Memphis at....
4th place.
Sure. Hey Mr. Search, go back and search all your negative posts, and show us where you had Memphis alone in 4th place in the AAC 19 games into the schedule. We'll wait.
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote: We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.
The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.
So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.
Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.
Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...
I'll even walk back the Bama "w" because I initially had it as an L but was caught up in the moment with their three starters missing.
If you include the Bama as a loss, I had Memphis going 10-3 in OOC and at this point in the AAC, I had Memphis at 3-3 (loss, not w vs. Temple).
I predicted Memphis to finish 9-9 in the AAC this year.
Remember this?
“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.
In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.
With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”
Of course I do.
That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.
That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.
So, you basically are proving my point.
Thanks.
Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.
I'll even walk back the Bama "w" because I initially had it as an L but was caught up in the moment with their three starters missing.
If you include the Bama as a loss, I had Memphis going 10-3 in OOC and at this point in the AAC, I had Memphis at 3-3 (loss, not w vs. Temple).
I predicted Memphis to finish 9-9 in the AAC this year.
Remember this?
“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.
In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.
With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”
Of course I do.
That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.
That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.
So, you basically are proving my point.
Thanks.
Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.
I'll even walk back the Bama "w" because I initially had it as an L but was caught up in the moment with their three starters missing.
If you include the Bama as a loss, I had Memphis going 10-3 in OOC and at this point in the AAC, I had Memphis at 3-3 (loss, not w vs. Temple).
I predicted Memphis to finish 9-9 in the AAC this year.
Remember this?
“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.
In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.
With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”
Of course I do.
That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.
That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.
So, you basically are proving my point.
Thanks.
Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.
It’s called changing the narrative...lol
I predicted 9-9.
You're heads are spinning because you look foolish as usual.
My post is documented.
From 11-7-17.
I started the thread.
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2018 10:26 AM by salukiblue.)
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