(01-14-2018 04:17 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:14 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:11 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Isn't 60 around the number were you have a shot a the tournament


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Usually want under 60, but Cuse got in as #71 in 2016.

60 for P5. I would want 40 as an AAC member and wouldn’t feel great.

Lol 60 for the Major 7, we're not the mvc and Missouri State. The cut off will be in the 50s somewhere, so anyone in the top 60 will be in the discussion. Top 40 as good as an auto.

(01-14-2018 04:21 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:17 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:14 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:11 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Isn't 60 around the number were you have a shot a the tournament


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Usually want under 60, but Cuse got in as #71 in 2016.

60 for P5. I would want 40 as an AAC member and wouldn’t feel great.

Lol 60 for the Major 7, we're not the mvc and Missouri State. The cut off will be in the 50s somewhere, so anyone in the top 60 will be in the discussion. Top 40 as good as an auto.

Houston and UCF were 62 and 64 and weren’t really that close, imo.

(01-14-2018 04:28 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:21 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:17 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:14 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:11 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Isn't 60 around the number were you have a shot a the tournament


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Usually want under 60, but Cuse got in as #71 in 2016.

60 for P5. I would want 40 as an AAC member and wouldn’t feel great.

Lol 60 for the Major 7, we're not the mvc and Missouri State. The cut off will be in the 50s somewhere, so anyone in the top 60 will be in the discussion. Top 40 as good as an auto.

Houston and UCF were 62 and 64 and weren’t really that close, imo.

I think it's more a name-brand thing than a Power conference thing. If it had been UCONN or Memphis at 62 and 64, they would have been closer, IMO.

(01-14-2018 03:34 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:51 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  The Cincinnati and Houston SOS's are pretty glaring..

And hats off to Temple for being #1... too bad that's the only thing going for them.

Shocker fans love to talk about UCs schedule, but digging a little deeper the only real difference is UC playing those 300+ level teams and WSU getting those 150ish ones. It is disappointing UC couldn't get better buy games this year, but based on our recent pattern of scheduling, this looks like a one year aberration brought upon by moving off campus for a year.

Um, that's a pretty big difference.

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:34 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:51 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  The Cincinnati and Houston SOS's are pretty glaring..

And hats off to Temple for being #1... too bad that's the only thing going for them.

Shocker fans love to talk about UCs schedule, but digging a little deeper the only real difference is UC playing those 300+ level teams and WSU getting those 150ish ones. It is disappointing UC couldn't get better buy games this year, but based on our recent pattern of scheduling, this looks like a one year aberration brought upon by moving off campus for a year.

Um, that's a pretty big difference.

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:34 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:51 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  The Cincinnati and Houston SOS's are pretty glaring..

And hats off to Temple for being #1... too bad that's the only thing going for them.

Shocker fans love to talk about UCs schedule, but digging a little deeper the only real difference is UC playing those 300+ level teams and WSU getting those 150ish ones. It is disappointing UC couldn't get better buy games this year, but based on our recent pattern of scheduling, this looks like a one year aberration brought upon by moving off campus for a year.

Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

(01-14-2018 04:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:28 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:21 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:17 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:14 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Usually want under 60, but Cuse got in as #71 in 2016.

60 for P5. I would want 40 as an AAC member and wouldn’t feel great.

Lol 60 for the Major 7, we're not the mvc and Missouri State. The cut off will be in the 50s somewhere, so anyone in the top 60 will be in the discussion. Top 40 as good as an auto.

Houston and UCF were 62 and 64 and weren’t really that close, imo.

I think it's more a name-brand thing than a Power conference thing. If it had been UCONN or Memphis at 62 and 64, they would have been closer, IMO.

I agree, although I didn't say they would, just they are in the discussion. Numbers 52-65 are a virtual wash and a case can be made to let in or leave out any of them.

If you are top 50 you are pretty much in. Then it's 12 teams fighting for 7 or 8 spots.

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:34 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:51 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  The Cincinnati and Houston SOS's are pretty glaring..

And hats off to Temple for being #1... too bad that's the only thing going for them.

Shocker fans love to talk about UCs schedule, but digging a little deeper the only real difference is UC playing those 300+ level teams and WSU getting those 150ish ones. It is disappointing UC couldn't get better buy games this year, but based on our recent pattern of scheduling, this looks like a one year aberration brought upon by moving off campus for a year.

Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

(01-14-2018 05:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:34 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Shocker fans love to talk about UCs schedule, but digging a little deeper the only real difference is UC playing those 300+ level teams and WSU getting those 150ish ones. It is disappointing UC couldn't get better buy games this year, but based on our recent pattern of scheduling, this looks like a one year aberration brought upon by moving off campus for a year.

Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

Schedule a couple home and homes with mid-tier MAC teams and start on the road. NKU problem solved.

(01-14-2018 05:37 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

Schedule a couple home and homes with mid-tier MAC teams and start on the road. NKU problem solved.

Why schedule home and homes against terrible competition? It's a 1 year blip and UC will still be in the tourney.

(01-14-2018 05:37 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

Schedule a couple home and homes with mid-tier MAC teams and start on the road. NKU problem solved.

That would be like WSU scheduling home and homes with mid tier Valley programs, ain't gonna happen.

Only two teams worse than #120.

I don’t have the rankings from the last 3-4 years but I think this is progress.

(01-14-2018 06:09 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:37 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

Schedule a couple home and homes with mid-tier MAC teams and start on the road. NKU problem solved.

That would be like WSU scheduling home and homes with mid tier Valley programs, ain't gonna happen.

I’d prefer it if we could only afford 10 Savannah States.

(01-14-2018 05:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:34 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Shocker fans love to talk about UCs schedule, but digging a little deeper the only real difference is UC playing those 300+ level teams and WSU getting those 150ish ones. It is disappointing UC couldn't get better buy games this year, but based on our recent pattern of scheduling, this looks like a one year aberration brought upon by moving off campus for a year.

Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

I'm pretty sure there isn't even a MAC team on the schedule, but it sure as hell beats the bottom of the barrel SWAC and MEAC teams.

Maybe I don't understand. Why are SWAC and MEAC teams more flexible with their scheduling than "mid-pack MAC teams"? Am I missing something?

Regardless of the excuses, I'm just going by the numbers out in front of everyone. The SOS leaves a lot to be desired and will likely cost Cincy a few seed lines on Selection Sunday. I doubt the committee will be listening to the NKU excuse.

What rankings do the committee primarily use? Should we be paying attention to RPI, or another ranking?

(01-14-2018 07:59 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  What rankings do the committee primarily use? Should we be paying attention to RPI, or another ranking?

In the past its always been RPI, but I believe they are supposed to start using other metrics in addition to RPI this year. What exactly they will use i'm not sure. The way RPI is being used has also been tweaked, with road games finally being given more weight than home games.

(01-14-2018 08:09 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 07:59 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  What rankings do the committee primarily use? Should we be paying attention to RPI, or another ranking?

In the past its always been RPI, but I believe they are supposed to start using other metrics in addition to RPI this year. What exactly they will use i'm not sure. The way RPI is being used has also been tweaked, with road games finally being given more weight than home games.

The metrics will be manipulated to favor the $5.

(01-14-2018 08:09 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 07:59 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  What rankings do the committee primarily use? Should we be paying attention to RPI, or another ranking?

In the past its always been RPI, but I believe they are supposed to start using other metrics in addition to RPI this year. What exactly they will use i'm not sure. The way RPI is being used has also been tweaked, with road games finally being given more weight than home games.

So don't pay attention to Ken Pom, BPI, etc.???

Focus on RPI of less than 60??

(01-14-2018 04:17 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:14 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:11 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Isn't 60 around the number were you have a shot a the tournament


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Usually want under 60, but Cuse got in as #71 in 2016.

60 for P5. I would want 40 as an AAC member and wouldn’t feel great.

P so called 5 is a football terminology. AAC is a major conf. in basektball. If, for example, UConn is sitting on fence, they will get in.

(01-14-2018 06:59 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 05:00 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:45 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Um, that's a pretty big difference.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm even more sorry that a Cincy fan didn't think 150 and 300+ were a big difference.

Maybe you do not understand. It is near impossible to schedule strategically around the NKU mens and Womens program. Congratulations, you were able to beat a couple mid tier Mac type teams.

I'm pretty sure there isn't even a MAC team on the schedule, but it sure as hell beats the bottom of the barrel SWAC and MEAC teams.

Maybe I don't understand. Why are SWAC and MEAC teams more flexible with their scheduling than "mid-pack MAC teams"? Am I missing something?

Regardless of the excuses, I'm just going by the numbers out in front of everyone. The SOS leaves a lot to be desired and will likely cost Cincy a few seed lines on Selection Sunday. I doubt the committee will be listening to the NKU excuse.

Yep.