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I will refrain from talking smack about Xavier since they have had our number lately. But holy hell, Villanova has dominated them in the Big East. Their 5 Big East games vs. Villanova have all been double-digit losses. The closest game was a loss by 13, and the other 4 were all between 23 and 31 points.

(01-10-2018 10:26 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 10:22 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Temple up 9 in 2nd half at Moody

I want UC to be the team that breaks the win streak at Moody.

Same here, and we probably would be if SMU somehow holds on tonight.

Temple beats SMU, UConn beats UCF, Memphis beat Tulsa... Jesus
The only game we're going to be able to afford to lose from now on is @Wichita State.

Yeah, it's a bit of a cluster F but there's still a lot of games to iron out the contenders from the pretenders. SMU losing at home (and three conference games in a row) hurts but Temple has some good OOC wins and a strong SOS on their resume. Shoot, we barely escaped Philly with a win against them. Of all those teams, Temple is just an absolute head scratcher. But, everyone felt going into the season they would be one of the better AAC teams. Maybe this win puts them on a nice run. Who knows? We'll find out soon enough.

(01-10-2018 11:14 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Temple beats SMU, UConn beats UCF, Memphis beat Tulsa... Jesus
The only game we're going to be able to afford to lose from now on is @Wichita State.

Watched first half of UConn v UCF. It was so bad I could not watch anymore. I wonder if UCF's injured star will be back for us?

TCU #16 went down.
FSU #23 went down.
And of course #10 Eggsaver got destroyed.

The WSU locusts are “seriously” calling for and undefeated conference season this year.

(01-10-2018 11:14 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Temple beats SMU, UConn beats UCF, Memphis beat Tulsa... Jesus
The only game we're going to be able to afford to lose from now on is @Wichita State.

Your kidding...right?

I sometimes wonder which fans are more insufferable. Wsu’s Or Cincy’s.

Yesterday was pretty bad day for UC's resume as Miss State, Wyoming, and SMU are went down. At least Temple stays in top tier column. Owls might have saved their season last night in the last few seconds of the game. They are the only team in the American where just a winning league record will be enough for NCAA bid as long as they also beat Penn. 18-12, 10-8 in the conference would come a large amount of quality wins already, Auburn, Clemson, South Carolina, at SMU. For SMU they don't have to win at Wichita State but if they don't pull that one out they have to take the next four against Tulane, UConn, ECU, and Tulsa as one more loss to that group put them in big trouble.

(01-11-2018 12:50 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 11:14 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Temple beats SMU, UConn beats UCF, Memphis beat Tulsa... Jesus
The only game we're going to be able to afford to lose from now on is @Wichita State.

Your kidding...right?

Oh for Christ's sake, I'm lamenting the fact that there is no clearly defined top of the conference other than us and Wichita State right now. That means for the rest of our schedule, it really doesn't look like there are any "good" wins beyond them. It would be helpful if UCF was actually good and could beat the UConns of the world, it would be helpful if Tulsa wouldn't lose to freaking Memphis and the same is true of SMU. We can't have any meaningful heads on our mantel during conference play, if everyone beats everyone else. We're better off with a good SMU team, rather than one who get's dropped by Temple @home. We're better off with a good UCF team than a middling one, in a conference with really bad basketball.
It's not a hard concept, parity is a bad thing come tourney time. Especially when a lot of the teams in your conference, never beat anybody of great import.

For your reading pleasure, skim Musketeer Madness this morning. Some are about to realize UC is the best quality win on X's tournament resume; the gift that keeps on giving. Others are in full meltdown mode after being beaten like a rented mule last night (and every season) in Philly. And then there are a few reading the tea leaves, convinced Mack is destined for Louisville at season's end. More entertaining than any formulaic drama on cable TV.

Regarding the AAC, wins by Temple and UCONN last night make me wonder if any teams beyond UC and WSU will emerge as NCAA contenders. Plenty of time yet, but UC would be well served if a couple more teams stepped up.

(01-10-2018 11:06 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I will refrain from talking smack about Xavier since they have had our number lately. But holy hell, Villanova has dominated them in the Big East. Their 5 Big East games vs. Villanova have all been double-digit losses. The closest game was a loss by 13, and the other 4 were all between 23 and 31 points.

Nova defends them so well they just quit.

(01-11-2018 09:41 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  For your reading pleasure, skim Musketeer Madness this morning. Some are about to realize UC is the best quality win on X's tournament resume; the gift that keeps on giving. Others are in full meltdown mode after being beaten like a rented mule last night (and every season) in Philly. And then there are a few reading the tea leaves, convinced Mack is destined for Louisville at season's end. More entertaining than any formulaic drama on cable TV.

Regarding the AAC, wins by Temple and UCONN last night make me wonder if any teams beyond UC and WSU will emerge as NCAA contenders. Plenty of time yet, but UC would be well served if a couple more teams stepped up.

Anyone know Patrick Brennan's (Cincinnati Enquirer) user name over there? Dude is a total fan boy.

(01-11-2018 09:41 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  For your reading pleasure, skim Musketeer Madness this morning. Some are about to realize UC is the best quality win on X's tournament resume; the gift that keeps on giving. Others are in full meltdown mode after being beaten like a rented mule last night (and every season) in Philly. And then there are a few reading the tea leaves, convinced Mack is destined for Louisville at season's end. More entertaining than any formulaic drama on cable TV.

Regarding the AAC, wins by Temple and UCONN last night make me wonder if any teams beyond UC and WSU will emerge as NCAA contenders. Plenty of time yet, but UC would be well served if a couple more teams stepped up.

Right now, maybe not. I still think one of SMU/Houston will win enough games to get in, but that's it.

UCF could have an interesting case if they get Taylor back and go on a tear and beat both UC and Wichita. Especially considering the committee takes into account injuries.

With conference season attrition this still feels like a 2-3 bid league to me.

There's still time for this to sort itself out but the best case scenario at this juncture may end up 3 teams get at-large and 1 additional team wins the conference tournament. If UC and WSU are locks, it still seems reasonable that one other American team rises out of the conference heap. I still say keep an eye on Temple but they definitely have work to do in conference. While SMU may be down, winning at Moody (Temple broke their consecutive home win streak) is never easy. That may be the spark they needed to get on a roll. Their next three games are hosting Memphis and Tulsa and then a road game at Penn. Then they visit us for the second game of the series. UCF and Houston are still in play and if UCF can get full strength soon that will help them obviously.

(01-11-2018 09:33 AM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 12:50 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 11:14 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Temple beats SMU, UConn beats UCF, Memphis beat Tulsa... Jesus
The only game we're going to be able to afford to lose from now on is @Wichita State.

Your kidding...right?

Oh for Christ's sake, I'm lamenting the fact that there is no clearly defined top of the conference other than us and Wichita State right now. That means for the rest of our schedule, it really doesn't look like there are any "good" wins beyond them. It would be helpful if UCF was actually good and could beat the UConns of the world, it would be helpful if Tulsa wouldn't lose to freaking Memphis and the same is true of SMU. We can't have any meaningful heads on our mantel during conference play, if everyone beats everyone else. We're better off with a good SMU team, rather than one who get's dropped by Temple @home. We're better off with a good UCF team than a middling one, in a conference with really bad basketball.
It's not a hard concept, parity is a bad thing come tourney time. Especially when a lot of the teams in your conference, never beat anybody of great import.

Temple has the best wins in the conference. Almost as many as the whole conference combined. That win over SMU didn’t hurt UC at all. SMU just needs to bounce back now. And honestly. I really don’t care if it’s just UC and WSU. Might even be best for both to get high seeds. But whatever Top 100 UC might lose to other than WSU basically punches that teams ticket.

I'd be stunned if SMU doesn't do enough to get in to the tournament. I'd be far more surprised if this league is a 2 bid league than if it is a 4 bid league. Houston, Temple, even UCF will have a chance to play their way in.

(01-11-2018 11:21 AM)payday Wrote:  Temple has the best wins in the conference.

! They're(Temple) likely to be a .500 team on the year. Temple is a bad loss, regardless of their wins in the OOC slate. Temple is not going to be a tournament team. The committee isn't just going to see the statistical analytics of team schedules, there also going to eyeball things to a great degree. It looks bad on paper. You don't want to lose to Temple at home. It takes away from our win over SMU in terms of perception.

Quote:That win over SMU didn’t hurt UC at all. SMU just needs to bounce back now.

It does when you consider that we could have a win over an SMU team that did not lose that game.
Look, we're better off with a clearly defined upper echelon of teams, who win consistently over the basement dwellers of the conference.
It makes our resume that much more impressive.

Quote: And honestly. I really don’t care if it’s just UC and WSU. Might even be best for both to get high seeds. But whatever Top 100 UC might lose to other than WSU basically punches that teams ticket.

I don't mind if we both are the top of the conference, I mind if that rest of the conference is crap.
I want to be at the top of a decent conference, not the top of a compost heap. It's not rocket science...

(01-11-2018 11:39 AM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:21 AM)payday Wrote:  Temple has the best wins in the conference.

! They're(Temple) likely to be a .500 team on the year. Temple is a bad loss, regardless of their wins in the OOC slate. Temple is not going to be a tournament team. The committee isn't just going to see the statistical analytics of team schedules, there also going to eyeball things to a great degree. It looks bad on paper. You don't want to lose to Temple at home. It takes away from our win over SMU in terms of perception.

Quote:That win over SMU didn’t hurt UC at all. SMU just needs to bounce back now.

It does when you consider that we could have a win over an SMU team that did not lose that game.
Look, we're better off with a clearly defined upper echelon of teams, who win consistently over the basement dwellers of the conference.
It makes our resume that much more impressive.

Quote: And honestly. I really don’t care if it’s just UC and WSU. Might even be best for both to get high seeds. But whatever Top 100 UC might lose to other than WSU basically punches that teams ticket.

I don't mind if we both are the top of the conference, I mind if that rest of the conference is crap.
I want to be at the top of a decent conference, not the top of a compost heap. It's not rocket science...

Having only two teams make the conference hurts the AAC and UC in the pocket books. There are $$$ from tournament credits for each team in the NCAAAT that are pooled. We want as many teams to make it as possible.