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(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 02:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  I just can't wrap my head around the idea behind "if we can't have it all right now don't bother" attitude. It's incremental improvement.

Well, honestly, there's no reason, in year 4 of FBS, we shouldn't have the ESPN Top 100 in their entirety playing for Dabo Swinney, Lane Kiffin, and Scott Frost, in a 150,000-seat version of Lane Stadium.



I'm with you: it's a process, not a light switch. There are most definitely things I wish would improve at a more hurried pace, but as long as things continue in an upward arc I'm content to watch the program advance.

Those who expect too much too soon are sure to be disappointed at every turn.

That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

ODU (NSU 2.0) upgrade.

(12-23-2017 09:52 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 02:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  I just can't wrap my head around the idea behind "if we can't have it all right now don't bother" attitude. It's incremental improvement.

Well, honestly, there's no reason, in year 4 of FBS, we shouldn't have the ESPN Top 100 in their entirety playing for Dabo Swinney, Lane Kiffin, and Scott Frost, in a 150,000-seat version of Lane Stadium.



I'm with you: it's a process, not a light switch. There are most definitely things I wish would improve at a more hurried pace, but as long as things continue in an upward arc I'm content to watch the program advance.

Those who expect too much too soon are sure to be disappointed at every turn.

That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

ODU (NSU 2.0) upgrade.

I don't think there would be this much outrage if this had been the actual plan from Day 1. But the admin clearly overpromised and underdelivered

(12-23-2017 10:12 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:52 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Well, honestly, there's no reason, in year 4 of FBS, we shouldn't have the ESPN Top 100 in their entirety playing for Dabo Swinney, Lane Kiffin, and Scott Frost, in a 150,000-seat version of Lane Stadium.



I'm with you: it's a process, not a light switch. There are most definitely things I wish would improve at a more hurried pace, but as long as things continue in an upward arc I'm content to watch the program advance.

Those who expect too much too soon are sure to be disappointed at every turn.

That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

ODU (NSU 2.0) upgrade.

I don't think there would be this much outrage if this had been the actual plan from Day 1. But the admin clearly overpromised and underdelivered

Dont forget to remove the press tower from that rendering.

(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 02:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  I just can't wrap my head around the idea behind "if we can't have it all right now don't bother" attitude. It's incremental improvement.

Well, honestly, there's no reason, in year 4 of FBS, we shouldn't have the ESPN Top 100 in their entirety playing for Dabo Swinney, Lane Kiffin, and Scott Frost, in a 150,000-seat version of Lane Stadium.



I'm with you: it's a process, not a light switch. There are most definitely things I wish would improve at a more hurried pace, but as long as things continue in an upward arc I'm content to watch the program advance.

Those who expect too much too soon are sure to be disappointed at every turn.

That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

I have a better idea. Why not develop a chairback device that is portable and can snap into the current bleachers. Then put them up for sale in the bookstore and at the stadium. Those that place such a premium on chairbacks will be willing to buy them and we save $55M and perhaps even make a little.

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(12-23-2017 11:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 02:45 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  I just can't wrap my head around the idea behind "if we can't have it all right now don't bother" attitude. It's incremental improvement.

Well, honestly, there's no reason, in year 4 of FBS, we shouldn't have the ESPN Top 100 in their entirety playing for Dabo Swinney, Lane Kiffin, and Scott Frost, in a 150,000-seat version of Lane Stadium.



I'm with you: it's a process, not a light switch. There are most definitely things I wish would improve at a more hurried pace, but as long as things continue in an upward arc I'm content to watch the program advance.

Those who expect too much too soon are sure to be disappointed at every turn.

That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

I have a better idea. Why not develop a chairback device that is portable and can snap into the current bleachers. Then put them up for sale in the bookstore and at the stadium. Those that place such a premium on chairbacks will be willing to buy them and we save $55M and perhaps even make a little.

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They are programmed and ready to go in many stores and online. Somebody already leaked the images of them pre-release . Let me see if i can find them. Oh you are in luck here they are.



In all seriousness this switch bait is just bush league and while i don't expect the new stadium or what ever they wanna call it to have all bells and whistles and expect them all at once and frankly we will no way be able to afford one anyway. Why not build a real good stadium in phases even if its chair backs only for premium sections and bleachers for rest. I don't get this at all. Georgia Southern built a nice stadium for ~60 MM or something along those lines and of course we now have to factor in inflation their stadium looks much nicer than ours sans our game day building. Shame on you Woody Boy.

(12-23-2017 11:49 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 11:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Well, honestly, there's no reason, in year 4 of FBS, we shouldn't have the ESPN Top 100 in their entirety playing for Dabo Swinney, Lane Kiffin, and Scott Frost, in a 150,000-seat version of Lane Stadium.



I'm with you: it's a process, not a light switch. There are most definitely things I wish would improve at a more hurried pace, but as long as things continue in an upward arc I'm content to watch the program advance.

Those who expect too much too soon are sure to be disappointed at every turn.

That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

I have a better idea. Why not develop a chairback device that is portable and can snap into the current bleachers. Then put them up for sale in the bookstore and at the stadium. Those that place such a premium on chairbacks will be willing to buy them and we save $55M and perhaps even make a little.

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They are programmed and ready to go in many stores and online. Somebody already leaked the images of them pre-release . Let me see if i can find them. Oh you are in luck here they are.



In all seriousness this switch bait is just bush league and while i don't expect the new stadium or what ever they wanna call it to have all bells and whistles and expect them all at once and frankly we will no way be able to afford one anyway. Why not build a real good stadium in phases even if its chair backs only for premium sections and bleachers for rest. I don't get this at all. Georgia Southern built a nice stadium for ~60 MM or something along those lines and of course we now have to factor in inflation their stadium looks much nicer than ours sans our game day building. Shame on you Woody Boy.

Well there we go. Now build a private bathroom for donors over a threshold and no need to do anything else.

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(12-23-2017 11:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 11:49 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 11:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:18 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:27 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  That's what I like to say too. Is it better than what we have? If yes, then thank God for little miracles. Growth may be slower than some like, but it's still growth.

But what they are now describing is not even close to $55 million better than what we have now. It might be more comfortable and have better bathrooms but that’s it. It may even be less attractive. To be clear, what they are now proposing is similar to what NSU currently has, only with the gameday building, some chair backs and 10,000 Fewer seats. The nice half of JMUs stadium is much nicer than what is described in the paper now. If this is the best they can do, just delay it. Spend a few Million now on renovating the press box sound system and a new scoreboard while fundraising for a few more years to get something on par with our peers. It’s brand new. It shouldn’t be below average the day it opens.

I have a better idea. Why not develop a chairback device that is portable and can snap into the current bleachers. Then put them up for sale in the bookstore and at the stadium. Those that place such a premium on chairbacks will be willing to buy them and we save $55M and perhaps even make a little.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

They are programmed and ready to go in many stores and online. Somebody already leaked the images of them pre-release . Let me see if i can find them. Oh you are in luck here they are.



In all seriousness this switch bait is just bush league and while i don't expect the new stadium or what ever they wanna call it to have all bells and whistles and expect them all at once and frankly we will no way be able to afford one anyway. Why not build a real good stadium in phases even if its chair backs only for premium sections and bleachers for rest. I don't get this at all. Georgia Southern built a nice stadium for ~60 MM or something along those lines and of course we now have to factor in inflation their stadium looks much nicer than ours sans our game day building. Shame on you Woody Boy.

Well there we go. Now build a private bathroom for donors over a threshold and no need to do anything else.

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LOL I Betcha once all is said and done that is what Woody is going to do.

What has bothered me is, not once have I heard making the new stadium a multi-use facility. If that was the plan, couldn't fundraising be tapped from larger sources? Wouldn't we be able to even, perhaps get money from the state? All of these questions deserve answers. It shows a remarkable inability for the administration to think outside the box. Plus if we're going to make a smaller version of FAU's stadium, why hire Populus in the first place. Seems like an incredible waste of money and more importantly time.

I just looked at this article.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...6738e.html


In a nutshell, we will be stuck with a really stupid looking middle school football stadium. With this, we won't be able to recruit real athletes. Without athletes we won't compete in CUSA. Without being able to compete, fans will lose interest. When fans lose interest the programs loses money. When the program loses money, the school drops the program.
I'd say by 2021, ODU won't have football.

How did we end up here?

I try not to get all doom and gloom on here, but I agree with y'all on this.

Woody and John need to borrow some money, or figure out some sort of public private partnership and build a really kick a s s facility.

I would rather keep playing in the current stadium and fund raise for a couple more years to build the stadium we want rather than settle for an inadequate piece of crapola

(12-24-2017 04:06 AM)Retroview1955 Wrote:  I just looked at this article.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...6738e.html


In a nutshell, we will be stuck with a really stupid looking middle school football stadium. With this, we won't be able to recruit real athletes. Without athletes we won't compete in CUSA. Without being able to compete, fans will lose interest. When fans lose interest the programs loses money. When the program loses money, the school drops the program.
I'd say by 2021, ODU won't have football.

How did we end up here?

How did we end up here? In a word, "Broderick". The man needs to go. ODU needs a real leader, not a mealy-mouthed burearcrat with adnoid problems.

(12-24-2017 04:06 AM)Retroview1955 Wrote:  I just looked at this article.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...6738e.html


In a nutshell, we will be stuck with a really stupid looking middle school football stadium. With this, we won't be able to recruit real athletes. Without athletes we won't compete in CUSA. Without being able to compete, fans will lose interest. When fans lose interest the programs loses money. When the program loses money, the school drops the program.
I'd say by 2021, ODU won't have football.

How did we end up here?

I'm not real happy with this development but football dead by 2021? That is a massive overreaction and a clear display of ignorance to reality.

(12-24-2017 07:37 AM)Monarch Blue Wrote:  How did we end up here? In a word, "Broderick". The man needs to go. ODU needs a real leader, not a mealy-mouthed burearcrat with adnoid problems.

Do you like anyone at ODU?

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(12-24-2017 07:34 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  I try not to get all doom and gloom on here, but I agree with y'all on this.

Woody and John need to borrow some money, or figure out some sort of public private partnership and build a really kick a s s facility.

I would rather keep playing in the current stadium and fund raise for a couple more years to build the stadium we want rather than settle for an inadequate piece of crapola

They definitely don't need to borrow money. Good Lord no.

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I'm not happy at all with developments, but I'm willing to suspend judgment until I step into the new stadium and see first hand what we've really got. The doom and gloom hyperbole is way over the top.

Wood and Dr. B. Need to do a focus group of those on this board. A real, in person discussion with a passionate and educated fan base that has ideas and differing opinions to bring to the table. It’s not TOO LATE yet but it’s getting close!


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(12-24-2017 10:49 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Wood and Dr. B. Need to do a focus group of those on this board. A real, in person discussion with a passionate and educated fan base that has ideas and differing opinions to bring to the table. It’s not TOO LATE yet but it’s getting close!


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Just to be clear:

John Broderick is not a PHD. He has an MS in Counseling.

Someone previously labeled him as an "academic" He is definitely not an academic in the classical sense, but indeed his skills and background are in marketing and public relations.

Quote:Early on in his career, Broderick was a newspaper reporter in Connecticut and Massachusetts and headed tourism and business organizations in both The Berkshires and the Island of Martha’s Vineyard. Before coming to Old Dominion University, Broderick was a faculty member in the University of Pittsburgh system and an administrator at St. Bonaventure University

Prior to becoming president of ODU, Broderick served as vice president of institutional advancement and admissions and chief of staff to the president. His areas of responsibility included admissions, athletics, community and governmental relations, marketing, media relations, military affairs and student financial aid.

IMO, JB has been more friendly to athletics than many other Presidents are at other schools, or would have been at ODU.

Two issues really:
1. I cannot stress enough how the Cox bill has hurt our AD.; both with operating budgets and previous long term planning which was literally turned upside down.
2. Can Dr Selig assess and act on personnel issues. In other words can he make the proper coaching hires and fires needed to advance our AD. IMHO, the jury is still out on this.

As for discussions with this board...uhhhhh no.

Step off the ledge folks. Also, don't believe everything you read in the papers (media)... Most stories typically have many inaccuracies and exaggerations.

Just sayin...

(12-24-2017 10:49 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Wood and Dr. B. Need to do a focus group of those on this board. A real, in person discussion with a passionate and educated fan base that has ideas and differing opinions to bring to the table. It’s not TOO LATE yet but it’s getting close!


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That could be entertaining.