What I liked for stAte's class is how long the guys they signed have been committed. Most of them committed last spring or summer. I feel like that is a good sign that the coaches believe they can come in and make the team better. The ones that are questionable to me are these last minute guys. It could be a good flip or a steal, but it probably means the team saw an immediate need or missed on another prospect.

(12-20-2017 02:59 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:35 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  ...and there it is

https://twitter.com/AppState_FB/status/9...1940424704

Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

As other said, he basically refused to talk to some coaches. Recruiters would ask to talk to his dad and his dad would say the same thing.

He was a Shrine Bowl QB and first-team 4A QB, which is the highest classification in N.C. Also an early-enrollee. He could be starting next fall.

Ryan Aplin only had one FBS offer. Did ok.

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:35 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  ...and there it is

https://twitter.com/AppState_FB/status/9...1940424704

Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

(12-20-2017 04:04 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Probably should just change it to Transfer U. 37 players on this year's roster who started careers somewhere else.

It works for them and that part of the country...way more than the SE.

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:35 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  ...and there it is

https://twitter.com/AppState_FB/status/9...1940424704

Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:35 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  ...and there it is

https://twitter.com/AppState_FB/status/9...1940424704

Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

So you are saying App offered a 5 star QB? Glad to be mentioned in that company.

Take a look at those that performed well in the first early signing period and let's look back in 2-3 years in the standings, I bet there will be a correlation.

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

I'm late to the party here but I'd say App does a better job with the recruits we get verses Southern. So until you can show something I'd just keep quiet.. we've been listening to your drivel for way to long. One of those poor QB recruits Taylor Lamb owned you for 4 years.l and that's a fact Jack.

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

Well obviously someone who doesn't come to camp to throw isn't interested in App, so Fields is completely irrelevant here. Point is, of all the QBs WHO CAME TO THROW (which included guys ranked higher and with more offers than Brown), Brown performed the best and became the #1 choice.

(12-20-2017 05:10 PM)App75 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

I'm late to the party here but I'd say App does a better job with the recruits we get verses Southern. So until you can show something I'd just keep quiet.. we've been listening to your drivel for way to long. One of those poor QB recruits Taylor Lamb owned you for 4 years.l and that's a fact Jack.

Woo we have similar talent, Congrats App you are the only team in the country that gets exactly who you really want every year... If this is the case might want to shoot higher couldn't hurt. Also learn to count I believe 2014 we did ok.

(12-20-2017 05:24 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

Well obviously someone who doesn't come to camp to throw isn't interested in App, so Fields is completely irrelevant here. Point is, of all the QBs WHO CAME TO THROW (which included guys ranked higher and with more offers than Brown), Brown performed the best and became the #1 choice.

Nope that is not what was said, homeboy said ONLY kids that come to camp get an offer so get the story straight among yourselves. Also which kid did he pass on because all above are committed to other schools two P5 only one did not commit early.

(12-20-2017 05:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:10 PM)App75 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

I'm late to the party here but I'd say App does a better job with the recruits we get verses Southern. So until you can show something I'd just keep quiet.. we've been listening to your drivel for way to long. One of those poor QB recruits Taylor Lamb owned you for 4 years.l and that's a fact Jack.

Woo we have similar talent, Congrats App you are the only team in the country that gets exactly who you really want every year....Also learn to count I believe 2014 we did ok.

Looks like App lost two guys late. One received offers from Louisville and UNC in November the other received an offer from Wake Forest. The DT took the UNC offer while the RB took the Wake offer. All things considered, I'd think that the DT loss hurts because running backs, aside from Daetrich Harrington, are plug and play in Boone. The larger impact comes from the offensive line.

Nose tackle is another story. They ultimately determine the success of the ends, linebackers, and safeties when playing the run.

(12-20-2017 05:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:10 PM)App75 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

I'm late to the party here but I'd say App does a better job with the recruits we get verses Southern. So until you can show something I'd just keep quiet.. we've been listening to your drivel for way to long. One of those poor QB recruits Taylor Lamb owned you for 4 years.l and that's a fact Jack.

Woo we have similar talent, Congrats App you are the only team in the country that gets exactly who you really want every year....Also learn to count I believe 2014 we did ok.

Looks like App lost two guys late. One received offers from Louisville and UNC in November the other received an offer from Wake Forest. The DT took the UNC offer while the RB took the Wake offer. All things considered, I'd think that the DT loss hurts because running backs, aside from Daetrich Harrington, are plug and play in Boone. The larger impact comes from the offensive line.

Nose tackle is another story. They ultimately determine the success of the ends, linebackers, and safeties when playing the run.

App does not lose recruits, they just are not longer the guys Satt wanted and replaced with lower ranked guys that he does, you didnt know?

(12-20-2017 05:32 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:24 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

Well obviously someone who doesn't come to camp to throw isn't interested in App, so Fields is completely irrelevant here. Point is, of all the QBs WHO CAME TO THROW (which included guys ranked higher and with more offers than Brown), Brown performed the best and became the #1 choice.

Nope that is not what was said, homeboy said ONLY kids that come to camp get an offer so get the story straight among yourselves. Also which kid did he pass on because all above are committed to other schools two P5 only one did not commit early.

We offered Fields in May 2016. In fact, we were the second school to offer him. It became clear he was beyond our reach. So, we seriously pursued Brown. So he was THE one we wanted. Obviously if Fields had shown interest we would have sought him but of those QBs we spent time looking at Brown was the guy we wanted.

(12-20-2017 05:35 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:10 PM)App75 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

I'm late to the party here but I'd say App does a better job with the recruits we get verses Southern. So until you can show something I'd just keep quiet.. we've been listening to your drivel for way to long. One of those poor QB recruits Taylor Lamb owned you for 4 years.l and that's a fact Jack.

Woo we have similar talent, Congrats App you are the only team in the country that gets exactly who you really want every year....Also learn to count I believe 2014 we did ok.

Looks like App lost two guys late. One received offers from Louisville and UNC in November the other received an offer from Wake Forest. The DT took the UNC offer while the RB took the Wake offer. All things considered, I'd think that the DT loss hurts because running backs, aside from Daetrich Harrington, are plug and play in Boone. The larger impact comes from the offensive line.

Nose tackle is another story. They ultimately determine the success of the ends, linebackers, and safeties when playing the run.

App does not lose recruits, they just are not longer the guys Satt wanted and replaced with lower ranked guys that he does, you didnt know?

Lol someone is salty

(12-20-2017 05:32 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:10 PM)App75 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

I'm late to the party here but I'd say App does a better job with the recruits we get verses Southern. So until you can show something I'd just keep quiet.. we've been listening to your drivel for way to long. One of those poor QB recruits Taylor Lamb owned you for 4 years.l and that's a fact Jack.

Woo we have similar talent, Congrats App you are the only team in the country that gets exactly who you really want every year....Also learn to count I believe 2014 we did ok.

Looks like App lost two guys late. One received offers from Louisville and UNC in November the other received an offer from Wake Forest. The DT took the UNC offer while the RB took the Wake offer. All things considered, I'd think that the DT loss hurts because running backs, aside from Daetrich Harrington, are plug and play in Boone. The larger impact comes from the offensive line.

Nose tackle is another story. They ultimately determine the success of the ends, linebackers, and safeties when playing the run.

That's old news. That was known a week or so ago.

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Yes Satt passed of four stars for this guy.....App had offers to five guys ranked higher. This is who he could get, he may or may not exceed his grade. If he was a legit P5 guy coming out of high school somebody would have got him.

Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

Of course you know far more about App's recruiting that those of us close to the program. Justin Fields did hold an offer, but no QB holds a committable offer until after Satterfield sees him throw. Once again, I invite you to talk to my friend Scott Sloan once he gets there, if you even have contact with the staff, and he will fill you in on who Satterfield works. You just need to stop with all this childishness, it continually exhibits just how little you actually know.

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(12-20-2017 05:39 PM)hapapp Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:32 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:24 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:20 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:16 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Ignoring the childish sarcasm, Satt makes ALL the QB offers and they don't get an offer until they throw for him in a camp in Boone. Steph made all the required throws better than anyone else who showed up at camp and yes there were some more highly rated guys there. He was the guy Satterfield wanted. Don't believe me talk to your new DC.

Sure...24/7 makes up offers now..gotcha. I know for a fact Justin Fields did not step foot on Apps campus but still had and offer and Satt would have walked to his house to sign him....Also some throws at camp for one day negates everything they did in high school. You are funny.

Well obviously someone who doesn't come to camp to throw isn't interested in App, so Fields is completely irrelevant here. Point is, of all the QBs WHO CAME TO THROW (which included guys ranked higher and with more offers than Brown), Brown performed the best and became the #1 choice.

Nope that is not what was said, homeboy said ONLY kids that come to camp get an offer so get the story straight among yourselves. Also which kid did he pass on because all above are committed to other schools two P5 only one did not commit early.

We offered Fields in May 2016. In fact, we were the second school to offer him. It became clear he was beyond our reach. So, we seriously pursued Brown. So he was THE one we wanted. Obviously if Fields had shown interest we would have sought him but of those QBs we spent time looking at Brown was the guy we wanted.

Hap, stop injecting facts into the conversation. After arguing with this guy for a couple of years it's become painfully obivious he knows more than anyone else, or his ego won't let him admit he doesn't.

(12-20-2017 05:32 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Nope that is not what was said, homeboy said ONLY kids that come to camp get an offer so get the story straight among yourselves. Also which kid did he pass on because all above are committed to other schools two P5 only one did not commit early.

Obviously "offers" go out to kids who don't end up interested in App State. Our staff doesn't consider them legitimate, committable offers unless a guy has camped at App State to show reciprocal interest. Justin Fields didn't do that for obvious reasons and wasn't a true target of the staff. Holton Ahlers was another guy who never really had interest in App and was 100% ECU from the beginning. The group of guys that made up the legitimate target list include several guys who don't have a 247 rating including ETSU commit Cam Lewis from McDonough GA, Brock Landis from Winder GA, Bryce Moore from Jefferson GA, and DJ Irons from Loganville GA. Other guys who were similar or more highly rated than Brown but who we ranked lower than him include Temple commit Trad Beatty from Columbia SC, Southern Miss commit Tate Whatley from Lakeland FL, UConn commit Steven Krajewski from Moultrie GA, UAB commit Dylan Hopkins from Maryville TN, and former Illinois commit Cordel Littlejohn from Roswell GA.

I'm not saying we were the top choice for any of those guys, but we ranked Brown higher than them. I can also say with certainty that they day after we took Brown's commitment Beatty committed to Temple and the day after that Hopkins committed to UAB. Maybe it was a coincidence, but probably not.