And yet online, the 21-year-old New Mexico resident lived a prolific life as a white supremacist, pro-Trump meme peddler who was most known for his obsession with school shooters. For a half-decade, Atchison spent most of his days online, repeatedly posting threats of violence and cries for help.

When users saw posts from Atchison, who went by dozens of names like “Adam Lanza” and “Future Mass Shooter” on both larger platforms like YouTube and racist communities like The Daily Stormer, they would often ask how his manifesto was going.


Link


If Obama caused cops to get killed because he said Treyvon was his son, then Trump is responsible for this.

Thanks Trump

Folks, just remember, you cant fix stupid.

Should we name the sites the liberal that tried to mow down Republican Congressmen and severely wounded Steve Scalise, was on. Last time I checked no Democratic congressmen has been shot at and wounded. Funny how Fit wants to forget that little incident one of his fellow libs did.

I can't take anything the daily beast says at face value, because they are a fake news blog and will lie about people even when there are time stamps that prove otherwise.

https://medium.com/@Cernovich/busted-fak...c21b374593

(12-15-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And yet online, the 21-year-old New Mexico resident lived a prolific life as a white supremacist, pro-Trump meme peddler who was most known for his obsession with school shooters. For a half-decade, Atchison spent most of his days online, repeatedly posting threats of violence and cries for help.

When users saw posts from Atchison, who went by dozens of names like “Adam Lanza” and “Future Mass Shooter” on both larger platforms like YouTube and racist communities like The Daily Stormer, they would often ask how his manifesto was going.


Link


If Obama caused cops to get killed because he said Treyvon was his son, then Trump is responsible for this.

Thanks Trump

Let me get this straight.....

You're comparing someone Obama openly and clearly and specifically embraced to someone who Trump never met and whom Trump never spoke of nor in any way embraced because that person chose Trump over Hillary?

Ridiculous comparison

(12-15-2017 12:50 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And yet online, the 21-year-old New Mexico resident lived a prolific life as a white supremacist, pro-Trump meme peddler who was most known for his obsession with school shooters. For a half-decade, Atchison spent most of his days online, repeatedly posting threats of violence and cries for help.

When users saw posts from Atchison, who went by dozens of names like “Adam Lanza” and “Future Mass Shooter” on both larger platforms like YouTube and racist communities like The Daily Stormer, they would often ask how his manifesto was going.


Link


If Obama caused cops to get killed because he said Treyvon was his son, then Trump is responsible for this.

Thanks Trump

Let me get this straight.....

You're comparing someone Obama openly and clearly and specifically embraced to someone who Trump never met and whom Trump never spoke of nor in any way embraced because that person chose Trump over Hillary?

Ridiculous comparison

It is what trolls do.

(12-15-2017 12:50 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And yet online, the 21-year-old New Mexico resident lived a prolific life as a white supremacist, pro-Trump meme peddler who was most known for his obsession with school shooters. For a half-decade, Atchison spent most of his days online, repeatedly posting threats of violence and cries for help.

When users saw posts from Atchison, who went by dozens of names like “Adam Lanza” and “Future Mass Shooter” on both larger platforms like YouTube and racist communities like The Daily Stormer, they would often ask how his manifesto was going.


Link


If Obama caused cops to get killed because he said Treyvon was his son, then Trump is responsible for this.

Thanks Trump

Let me get this straight.....

You're comparing someone Obama openly and clearly and specifically embraced to someone who Trump never met and whom Trump never spoke of nor in any way embraced because that person chose Trump over Hillary?

Ridiculous comparison

What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

If we are to accept this logic, then Trump's words have also caused people to be killed.

I'm comparing the words each have used.

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:50 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 11:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And yet online, the 21-year-old New Mexico resident lived a prolific life as a white supremacist, pro-Trump meme peddler who was most known for his obsession with school shooters. For a half-decade, Atchison spent most of his days online, repeatedly posting threats of violence and cries for help.

When users saw posts from Atchison, who went by dozens of names like “Adam Lanza” and “Future Mass Shooter” on both larger platforms like YouTube and racist communities like The Daily Stormer, they would often ask how his manifesto was going.


Link


If Obama caused cops to get killed because he said Treyvon was his son, then Trump is responsible for this.

Thanks Trump

Let me get this straight.....

You're comparing someone Obama openly and clearly and specifically embraced to someone who Trump never met and whom Trump never spoke of nor in any way embraced because that person chose Trump over Hillary?

Ridiculous comparison

What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

If we are to accept this logic, then Trump's words have also caused people to be killed.

I'm comparing the words each have used.

No you weren’t led to believe that. You just made that up.

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

If we are to accept this logic, then Trump's words have also caused people to be killed.

I'm comparing the words each have used.

That's even more ridiculous.

The logic you are implying is completely illogical.

First, 'we were lead to believe' is making a straw man argument... but we will ignore that for the moment. I don't remember anyone blaming the police for the killing of Martin. Racism, yes... but not police... and of course, I never said Obama's embracing of Martin caused police shootings... but that aside...

Trump never embraced in any way the New Mexico shooter... Before OR after.

They aren't comparable... other than you trying to associate 'the right' in general, especially Trump supporters with racist murderers.

Quote:The logic you are implying is completely illogical.

Bingo

That is the point I was trying to make.

Quote:First, 'we were lead to believe' is making a straw man argument... but we will ignore that for the moment. I don't remember anyone blaming the police for the killing of Martin. Racism, yes... but not police... and of course, I never said Obama's embracing of Martin caused police shootings... but that aside...

The blame was put on Obama for saying Treyvon could have been his son. Many on this forum said that it was his words that caused people to start shooting cops.

Quote:Trump never embraced in any way the New Mexico shooter... Before OR after.

No he didn't but he failed to condemn the white nationalists for what they did in Virginia remember? He said some of them were good people.

(12-15-2017 03:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:The logic you are implying is completely illogical.

Bingo

That is the point I was trying to make.

See below

Quote:

Quote:First, 'we were lead to believe' is making a straw man argument... but we will ignore that for the moment. I don't remember anyone blaming the police for the killing of Martin. Racism, yes... but not police... and of course, I never said Obama's embracing of Martin caused police shootings... but that aside...

The blame was put on Obama for saying Treyvon could have been his son. Many on this forum said that it was his words that caused people to start shooting cops.

I don't recall that at all or in any way, and it makes no logical sense since no cops were involved in the Martin shooting.

I think you're reaching.... but if you'd like to quote specific posters, we can discuss what they actually said. Instead, you're implying that it was the commonly held belief.

I distinctly recall that Trump's comments about walls and borders were routinely misquoted by the left, so to the extent that this is true, I'd say the left has done it to themselves. I don't see anyone on the right supporting this guy in New Mexico, do you?

Quote:

Quote:Trump never embraced in any way the New Mexico shooter... Before OR after.

No he didn't but he failed to condemn the white nationalists for what they did in Virginia remember? He said some of them were good people.

Actually he didn't fail to do so... He just didn't do it on the left's timeline, nor did he (as you once again are doing) paint everyone present there with the broad brush of racism.

Here is one of the many quotes he made, this one two days after the event...
“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the K.K.K., neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

I don't know how that can be labeled as anything but a condemnation.

If you'd like to argue that he didn't do it fast enough or that it wasn't harsh enough, well that's an opinion... but the idea that he didn't do it is just not true.

Now if he had picked out one of the attackers and said, 'he could be my son', then I absolutely would agree that he had incited people and the comparison to what Obama did would be logical. That's not what he did.

He also said some Mexicans crossing the border illegally were good people... but 'your side' ignored that... as they ignored the 'they don't send their best' was related to people being SENT by Mexico, and not those choosing to come of their own volition.... so I don't care to engage in a line by line game of 'what was the meme'. Calling people who engage in violence in the name of racism 'evil' and 'repugnant' is absolutely true. It is the left who seems to want to convict people of such transgressions without an admission or due process.

It seems quite clear that you're doing what has been done all along.... picking and choosing and assigning beliefs in a way that supports your preconceptions and not engaging in actual debate or discussion. 'Your side' has done this since before the election, and you continue to do it.

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

OP showing his true colors yet again

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

(12-16-2017 06:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

http://csnbbs.com/thread-747445.html

(12-18-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

http://csnbbs.com/thread-747445.html

Nice link.

Now do you have one that actually backs up your claim?

(12-18-2017 11:19 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

http://csnbbs.com/thread-747445.html

Nice link.

Now do you have one that actually backs up your claim?

You didn't read it did you?

(12-18-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

http://csnbbs.com/thread-747445.html

That link is about racism... The implication (as I said) by the left was that Martin was shot because of racism. Obama's speech WAS about that. The left has also charged that 'the police' as an institution are racist...

That links Martin and 'the police' to racism. It does not link Martin to 'the police' as you tried to imply. Obama has absolutely and directly linked the police, and our entire system of government to racism, despite the fact that it elected him President twice.

All you're doing now is exactly the same thing.... You accuse 'the right' of being racists, and then you blame 'them' for all the ills of actual racists 'because you say so'.

It continues to be ridiculous... and is the typical leftist act of taking something someone actually said to an absurd extreme (that they didn't say) to make it sound as if they said something absurd... and then arguing with that absurd thing they didn't say.

(12-18-2017 11:30 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 11:19 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

http://csnbbs.com/thread-747445.html

Nice link.

Now do you have one that actually backs up your claim?

You didn't read it did you?

Read the entire thing. Nothing within that thread supports this claim by you earlier in this thread

Quote:We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

(12-18-2017 11:34 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What I am comparing is the power of words. We were led to believe that Obama's words about Treyvon caused the shooting of cops.

Who led you to believe that?

Do you have a link?

bump

http://csnbbs.com/thread-747445.html

That link is about racism... The implication (as I said) by the left was that Martin was shot because of racism. Obama's speech WAS about that. The left has also charged that 'the police' as an institution are racist...

That links Martin and 'the police' to racism. It does not link Martin to 'the police' as you tried to imply. Obama has absolutely and directly linked the police, and our entire system of government to racism, despite the fact that it elected him President twice.

All you're doing now is exactly the same thing.... You accuse 'the right' of being racists, and then you blame 'them' for all the ills of actual racists 'because you say so'.

It continues to be ridiculous... and is the typical leftist act of taking something someone actually said to an absurd extreme (that they didn't say) to make it sound as if they said something absurd... and then arguing with that absurd thing they didn't say.

I do not accuse "the right" of being racists. I'm simply pointing out that a percentage of them are and the Republicans know this and pander to them.

Remember Lee Atwater?