(12-15-2017 02:41 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Interesting:

Quote:Ronald Tillery‏
@CAGrizBeat
10m10 minutes ago

Keelon Lawson called Memphis Tigers AD Tom Bowen a liar and I believe Lawson. #Trends

Tillery's connections tell him what the alleged lie was about?

BTW - I heard that after Pastner left Bowen wanted Lawson to sit tight and told him the next coach would keep him on as an assistant. Of course that next coach was Tubby who promoted Saul.

(12-15-2017 01:31 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Keelon also said his 2006 Hamilton squad could beat this years East squad because “We had a lot of gang bangers. They don’t have no thugs on their team”

That 05-06 Hamilton team went undefeated and was a good squad but they aren't better than this years east team.

Says we can't get local kids cause of support? Horseshit.

Keelon was the guy that could not get along with Gene Bartow at UAB.....

(12-15-2017 02:53 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Says we can't get local kids cause of support? Horseshit.

Guess he never saw KJ's 'f-you Tubby' video.

(12-15-2017 01:12 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Didn't and won't listen to him. The major problem on that team was him and he knows it. Although I am sure he has completely justified his actions, hopefully he knows where the truth really is.

At least there's always Ball to make him look decent.

This keeps getting repeated like someone with inside knowledge said it. Can anyone provide a link or is this just typical Memphis fan scapegoating?

(12-15-2017 03:02 PM)TIGER7880 Wrote:  Keelon was the guy that could not get along with Gene Bartow at UAB.....

Bingo!

Keelon is fos and he knows it...that mane mad at tubby too so he needs to stop lying.

I mean hard to say he's making this up about Bowen. He was the only holdover from Pastner's staff. He wasn't lingering around for nothing.

Dedric and KJ could have transferred right after Pastner left but they didn't most likely bc there was a promise made.

Like it or not, its probably true. But its over now.

(12-15-2017 02:41 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Interesting:

Quote:Ronald Tillery‏
@CAGrizBeat
10m10 minutes ago

Keelon Lawson called Memphis Tigers AD Tom Bowen a liar and I believe Lawson. #Trends

I don’t think Ron Tillery has ever made a nice remark about the university.

I have no idea of the handshake agreement between Bowen and Lawson, but Bowen made sure Lawson was made whole, money wise.

F that dude.
F both those dudes.

(12-15-2017 02:53 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Says we can't get local kids cause of support? Horseshit.

I'm sure it helps when FEF is empty ...

(12-15-2017 01:01 PM)selleg1 Wrote:  He had to set the record for the most: "you know what I'm saying", in a 15 minute interview.

He holds all of the top 10 spots - from his 10 previous interviews on J&J.

(12-15-2017 03:13 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:53 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Says we can't get local kids cause of support? Horseshit.

I'm sure it helps when FEF is empty ...

It is Horseshit that fans don't realize that this does hurt recruiting. Harris and Lomax are prime examples of this. When I was being recruited for football. The first thing I looked at was the fan support or lack of. The fans that have stopped going to the games is a big part of the reason that local kids won't come here.

(12-15-2017 01:22 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:58 PM)OldManTiger Wrote:  On with Jason and John at 11:40. Podcast will be up later.

Quick excerpts:
Said that the problem was not Tubby ("Tubby is a great coach and a great person").
He said his problems were with Bowen "who lied to us".
Loves Memphis and wants the city to support Tubby and the Tigers.
Says the real problem with local recruiting is the fans not giving the team the support the recruits think they deserve.
Believes Penny will surround himself with the best and be a great college coach.

I will keep an eye out for the podcast link.

This is concerning if true, but it strikes me as not quite accurate. The fanbase is strong and would explode in support if there were literally any top 50-100 players ready to reload next year.

But... I'm not a part of the 901 hoops scene, Lawson is.

So, I can't simply say he's wrong. Hell, he'd know and he might be right.
And if he's right, God help us all.

The enthusiasm needs the seed of recruiting victories or legit wins.
If the recruiting victories need the seed of enthusiasm, with the program where it is?

We have a problem.

He is the 4th person to say something like this in the past few months. Vanover's dad said local support was the reason they were delaying signing. But then he signed anyway. Kennedy's dad or coach said support was an issue. Harris's coach said it last week. Now Keelon.

People here don't want to hear it because it's calling you out as part of the problem - not part of the solution. But after a while there maybe some truth to it?

(12-15-2017 01:31 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Keelon also said his 2006 Hamilton squad could beat this years East squad because “We had a lot of gang bangers. They don’t have no thugs on their team”

good grief - an embarrassment

(12-15-2017 02:30 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 01:05 PM)MemphisRob Wrote:  Well, Bowen has proven to be one of the best Ads in the country...... you know what I am saying.

Other than taking credit for the work that was done by others and using every opportunity to throw his name out for any opening what has he actually done?

You'd be hard pressed to find anything positive being done that was not already in the planning stages before he arrived.

Oh I don't know, got Bill Laurie back under the tent, which got the basketball facility built, got the IPF funded and construction slated to begin in January, hired Norvell 2 years ago, and re-upped him the other day. There may even be more.

Are you really as stupid as you appear to be?

(12-15-2017 03:09 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:41 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Interesting:

Quote:Ronald Tillery‏
@CAGrizBeat
10m10 minutes ago

Keelon Lawson called Memphis Tigers AD Tom Bowen a liar and I believe Lawson. #Trends

I don’t think Ron Tillery has ever made a nice remark about the university.

I have no idea of the handshake agreement between Bowen and Lawson, but Bowen made sure Lawson was made whole, money wise.

F that dude.
F both those dudes.

Tillery only acknowledges the Un of Memphis when he is taking a shot at them. How have we lost all our good writers, but he's still around? Good ones move on, but can't get rid of the bad ones.

(12-15-2017 03:24 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 03:13 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 02:53 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Says we can't get local kids cause of support? Horseshit.

I'm sure it helps when FEF is empty ...

It is Horseshit that fans don't realize that this does hurt recruiting. Harris and Lomax are prime examples of this. When I was being recruited for football. The first thing I looked at was the fan support or lack of. The fans that have stopped going to the games is a big part of the reason that local kids won't come here.

I'm confused.

People should suck it up and pay money to see a crap product that the $3 million dollar a year head coach has put on the floor because the $3 million dollar a year head coach can't recruit good players on his own merits?

That is the most backward ass way of looking at things.

A restaurant used to be good and was always full. Then the standards went to crap and the filet is now low grade chuck steak. The way to make the restaurant better is to fill it up and pay good money for a poor product?

(12-15-2017 03:29 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 01:22 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:58 PM)OldManTiger Wrote:  On with Jason and John at 11:40. Podcast will be up later.

Quick excerpts:
Said that the problem was not Tubby ("Tubby is a great coach and a great person").
He said his problems were with Bowen "who lied to us".
Loves Memphis and wants the city to support Tubby and the Tigers.
Says the real problem with local recruiting is the fans not giving the team the support the recruits think they deserve.
Believes Penny will surround himself with the best and be a great college coach.

I will keep an eye out for the podcast link.

This is concerning if true, but it strikes me as not quite accurate. The fanbase is strong and would explode in support if there were literally any top 50-100 players ready to reload next year.

But... I'm not a part of the 901 hoops scene, Lawson is.

So, I can't simply say he's wrong. Hell, he'd know and he might be right.
And if he's right, God help us all.

The enthusiasm needs the seed of recruiting victories or legit wins.
If the recruiting victories need the seed of enthusiasm, with the program where it is?

We have a problem.

He is the 4th person to say something like this in the past few months. Vanover's dad said local support was the reason they were delaying signing. But then he signed anyway. Kennedy's dad or coach said support was an issue. Harris's coach said it last week. Now Keelon.

People here don't want to hear it because it's calling you out as part of the problem - not part of the solution. But after a while there maybe some truth to it?

A high school kid today has mostly seen the end of Josh and Tubby since they started caring. Why wouldn't they question the local support?

(12-15-2017 02:41 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Interesting:

Quote:Ronald Tillery‏
@CAGrizBeat
10m10 minutes ago

Keelon Lawson called Memphis Tigers AD Tom Bowen a liar and I believe Lawson. #Trends

Ron Tillery is the worst....