These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

(12-06-2017 11:20 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:34 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:16 PM)btiger Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:07 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  followed suit and sat out the bowl game?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/...-bowl-game

Should they, or shouldn't they ??

if miller was my son or client no way in hell would he play in this game

Thank God he's not

If he was would he have gotten as far as he already has?

Would the kid even play for Memphis? Or an SEC school?

(12-05-2017 05:48 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:16 PM)btiger Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:07 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  followed suit and sat out the bowl game?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/...-bowl-game

Should they, or shouldn't they ??

if miller was my son or client no way in hell would he play in this game

Well, if he were your son he probably wouldn't be able to do what he does. He'd be into huntin and fishin instead.

Golfing and sipping Scotch is more likely.

(12-05-2017 05:48 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:16 PM)btiger Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:07 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  followed suit and sat out the bowl game?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/...-bowl-game

Should they, or shouldn't they ??

if miller was my son or client no way in hell would he play in this game

Well, if he were your son he probably wouldn't be able to do what he does. He'd be into huntin and fishin instead.

Especially Fishing

(12-13-2017 01:16 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 05:48 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:16 PM)btiger Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 03:07 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  followed suit and sat out the bowl game?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/...-bowl-game

Should they, or shouldn't they ??

if miller was my son or client no way in hell would he play in this game

Well, if he were your son he probably wouldn't be able to do what he does. He'd be into huntin and fishin instead.

Golfing and sipping Scotch is more likely.

you say that like its a bad thing?

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

He has to play in the Senior Bowl. More NFL scouts attend that game than any other game period.

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

Only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round of the 2016 draft played in the 2016 Senior Bowl. Not sure of the number for 2017. So 85% or so of top players skip Senior Bowl too.

(12-13-2017 05:48 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

Only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round of the 2016 draft played in the 2016 Senior Bowl. Not sure of the number for 2017. So 85% or so of top players skip Senior Bowl too.

Your post is misleading. How many 2nd round and below played? Miller isn't guaranteed first round yet. He is tough and talented but size could play against him.

(12-13-2017 05:52 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:48 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

Only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round of the 2016 draft played in the 2016 Senior Bowl. Not sure of the number for 2017. So 85% or so of top players skip Senior Bowl too.

Your post is misleading. How many 2nd round and below played? Miller isn't guaranteed first round yet. He is tough and talented but size could play against him.

In other words you can say 85% of the first round but 85% of the top players is misleading.

(12-13-2017 05:52 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:48 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

Only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round of the 2016 draft played in the 2016 Senior Bowl. Not sure of the number for 2017. So 85% or so of top players skip Senior Bowl too.

Your post is misleading. How many 2nd round and below played? Miller isn't guaranteed first round yet. He is tough and talented but size could play against him.

Whether you think it's misleading or not, it's a fact. I don't feel like counting the 2nd rounders, but if you want to do the research, power to you.

Bigger point is lots of top players skip bowl games, and lots of top players skip the Senior Bowl. Miller and other top players have already played 12 - 14 games for NFL scouts to see, I won't criticize them whatever decision they make.

(12-13-2017 06:00 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:52 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:48 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

Only 4 players who were drafted in the 1st round of the 2016 draft played in the 2016 Senior Bowl. Not sure of the number for 2017. So 85% or so of top players skip Senior Bowl too.

Your post is misleading. How many 2nd round and below played? Miller isn't guaranteed first round yet. He is tough and talented but size could play against him.

Whether you think it's misleading or not, it's a fact. I don't feel like counting the 2nd rounders, but if you want to do the research, power to you.

Bigger point is lots of top players skip bowl games, and lots of top players skip the Senior Bowl. Miller and other top players have already played 12 - 14 games for NFL scouts to see, I won't criticize them whatever decision they make.

You guys are going at this like you are afraid he will read a thread and decide "Hey, maybe I shouldn't play.
Lot's of top players don't skip the Senior Bowl. The majority of first rounders do according to the statement which may be true or not. You don't need to count to know you were trying to use a fact to make a point while ignoring the other 70 or so players and where they fall. Pretty much guarantee they are mostly in the next couple of rounds. This kind of fine point fact grabbing is useless. Miller is borderline on the first round and unless something drastically changes he will play in the senior bowl. He may very well skip our game. It wont affect his draft status but skipping the Senior bowl would if he is not a first rounder.
Maybe it would be good to go back and review the original comments.

Have the university take out an insurance policy, paid by the boosters, and there’s no problem.

It is a really stupid statement to say that lots of players skip their Bowl game. It is only a recent thing and there haven't been that many.

It's also a bit misleading, because most of the Senior Bowl games don't invite the sure-fire first round talents. It is a game geared to get exposure for lower rated talents and players from smaller schools to get the chance to upgrade the talent of their opposition.

If I was an NFL scout I would see sitting out of a bowl game as a negative.

Anyone scared to play in a college bowl game shouldn't be in the NFL

(12-13-2017 10:48 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote:  If I was an NFL scout I would see sitting out of a bowl game as a negative.

Anyone scared to play in a college bowl game shouldn't be in the NFL

youre not an nfl scout.

it aint scared....its smart

(12-13-2017 05:47 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:39 PM)msu65 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:20 PM)memphisike Wrote:  These Dudes need to play an outstanding L.B.. game , put up numbers and carry that into the combine, that's how they'll play on Sundays and we've got some Dudes who can and should make this leap, but sitting this game ain't gonna help their case for moving up in the draft

Sitting the game isn't about moving up the draft, its about self preservation. One should only really do it if you are a first day of the draft prospect.

Miller does not have to show anything else. He could start working with a personal trainer to improve his combine skills, play in the Senior Bowl and then become a millionaire. I wonder if he is practicing with the team right now.

So playing in the Senior Bowl somehow isn't risking his career, but playing in the LB against a very solid P5 opponent is?!!

Yes. He is and WILL be playing in the game!

He has to play in the Senior Bowl. More NFL scouts attend that game than any other game period.

senior bowl is not for people like miller. its for lesser talent to get evaluated.


the game itself means nothing.....its the workouts before the game that the scouts attend

There are more mentalities out there than "it's just business". If that's your mentality, then you may give a long look to sitting out.

The more prevalent mentality is "I'm a beast competitor". These guys think it's silly to consider sitting out your last opportunity to play in college. Some of you may call this stupid. But the fact is, this attitude has gotten most of these guys to where they are today.