Well, it seems like they are going all in. A pretty good press conference and they have a busy next 3 weeks. Seems like the players will be as prepared as they can be for the game.

https://www.facebook.com/ucffootball/vid...415643047/

Despite the fact that this all seems like a circus, UCF make navigate this entire thing coming out unscathed this season as well as going into the next season with the new coaching staff.

Which leads me back to the Houston debacle. It seems that the Frost circus through the season was just as bad as the Herman circus. Did Houston lose their entire staff after the season? Why did it affect the Houston team worse than UCF? Was it Herman just being a douche and not caring one bit about his players? Did the Houston players feel that? It seems that Frost really does care about the UCF players and they bought into it during the season and even now during the bowl prep. From what I hear, it was a great practice today.

(12-12-2017 01:11 PM)otown Wrote:  Well, it seems like they are going all in. A pretty good press conference and they have a busy next 3 weeks. Seems like the players will be as prepared as they can be for the game.

https://www.facebook.com/ucffootball/vid...415643047/

Despite the fact that this all seems like a circus, UCF make navigate this entire thing coming out unscathed this season as well as going into the next season with the new coaching staff.

Which leads me back to the Houston debacle. It seems that the Frost circus through the season was just as bad as the Herman circus. Did Houston lose their entire staff after the season? Why did it affect the Houston team worse than UCF? Was it Herman just being a douche and not caring one bit about his players? Did the Houston players feel that? It seems that Frost really does care about the UCF players and they bought into it during the season and even now during the bowl prep. From what I hear, it was a great practice today.

The difference was Herman lost games because of him looking for a different job while frost kept his team focused and maintained his responsibilities for his current job.

At Houston we felt herman was gone before he coached his last game.

(12-12-2017 01:22 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 01:11 PM)otown Wrote:  Well, it seems like they are going all in. A pretty good press conference and they have a busy next 3 weeks. Seems like the players will be as prepared as they can be for the game.

https://www.facebook.com/ucffootball/vid...415643047/

Despite the fact that this all seems like a circus, UCF make navigate this entire thing coming out unscathed this season as well as going into the next season with the new coaching staff.

Which leads me back to the Houston debacle. It seems that the Frost circus through the season was just as bad as the Herman circus. Did Houston lose their entire staff after the season? Why did it affect the Houston team worse than UCF? Was it Herman just being a douche and not caring one bit about his players? Did the Houston players feel that? It seems that Frost really does care about the UCF players and they bought into it during the season and even now during the bowl prep. From what I hear, it was a great practice today.

The difference was Herman lost games because of him looking for a different job while frost kept his team focused and maintained his responsibilities for his current job.

At Houston we felt herman was gone before he coached his last game.

Strong was fired at the end of the season. Did Herman have secret meetings during the season prior to Strong's firing? The interesting thing is that Frost actually did that in Philly. It does speak wonders of the multitasking Frost is capable of...... although cant say the same for Chinander. He checked out midway through the season.

(12-12-2017 02:04 PM)otown Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 01:22 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 01:11 PM)otown Wrote:  Well, it seems like they are going all in. A pretty good press conference and they have a busy next 3 weeks. Seems like the players will be as prepared as they can be for the game.

https://www.facebook.com/ucffootball/vid...415643047/

Despite the fact that this all seems like a circus, UCF make navigate this entire thing coming out unscathed this season as well as going into the next season with the new coaching staff.

Which leads me back to the Houston debacle. It seems that the Frost circus through the season was just as bad as the Herman circus. Did Houston lose their entire staff after the season? Why did it affect the Houston team worse than UCF? Was it Herman just being a douche and not caring one bit about his players? Did the Houston players feel that? It seems that Frost really does care about the UCF players and they bought into it during the season and even now during the bowl prep. From what I hear, it was a great practice today.

The difference was Herman lost games because of him looking for a different job while frost kept his team focused and maintained his responsibilities for his current job.

At Houston we felt herman was gone before he coached his last game.

Strong was fired at the end of the season. Did Herman have secret meetings during the season prior to Strong's firing? The interesting thing is that Frost actually did that in Philly. It does speak wonders of the multitasking Frost is capable of...... although cant say the same for Chinander. He checked out midway through the season.

Yes, herman was negotiating the entire season, including the season before when he almost left for USC east. Remember the Memphis game last year and the ESPiN scroll at the bottom ran the entire game how herman was possibly heading to LSU (pretty classless of ESPN as well but that's how they operate)? Turns out that was just a tactic by him and his agent to get TU to move or get off the pot. There were reports at the Navy game that had him leaving. I have no problem with him moving on but doing it on the kids and University's time is low. He was making good money off of UH. He took almost the entire staff before the bowl, leaving us with around 4 coaches if I remember correctly. I think 2 of those were grad assistants. Frost is showing how it should be done, classy.

Just curious, did Danny White hijack the UCF presidency? Look at the UCF website. LOL

https://www.ucf.edu/

Herman flirted with South Carolina 6 games into his first season. I've heard he first met with Texas officials the week of the Navy game (our first loss).

Remember, he was asked point blank before the Memphis game about meeting with Texas/LSU officials and he had that shifty-eyed lie answer that became a GIF. We lost the Memphis game and he was announced as the next head coach of Texas before the plane landed back in Houston. According to Herman, he'd want you to think he hadn't spoken to them before the Memphis game but he was HIRED in the air? That's not how it works.

After that all went through, players immediately started tweeting out that they had been lied to. Ed Oliver even asked "why did you lie, Coach?" in a tweet before deleting it. As if that weren't douchebag enough, he then took his courtesy vehicle and drove in the the airport and left it with the key in it and called a UH staffer to go retrieve it. He then hired almost all of our staff and stole several of our best recruits. We then went to the Las Vegas Bowl where we played solid during the first half but with only 4 people coaching and nobody with experience in the booth, we clearly couldn't/didn't make adjustments and we got rolled in the second half creating FANHOOD.

Herman is a POS.

(12-12-2017 05:21 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Herman flirted with South Carolina 6 games into his first season. I've heard he first met with Texas officials the week of the Navy game (our first loss).

Remember, he was asked point blank before the Memphis game about meeting with Texas/LSU officials and he had that shifty-eyed lie answer that became a GIF. We lost the Memphis game and he was announced as the next head coach of Texas before the plane landed back in Houston. According to Herman, he'd want you to think he hadn't spoken to them before the Memphis game but he was HIRED in the air? That's not how it works.

After that all went through, players immediately started tweeting out that they had been lied to. Ed Oliver even asked "why did you lie, Coach?" in a tweet before deleting it. As if that weren't douchebag enough, he then took his courtesy vehicle and drove in the the airport and left it with the key in it and called a UH staffer to go retrieve it. He then hired almost all of our staff and stole several of our best recruits. We then went to the Las Vegas Bowl where we played solid during the first half but with only 4 people coaching and nobody with experience in the booth, we clearly couldn't/didn't make adjustments and we got rolled in the second half creating FANHOOD.

Herman is a POS.

Wow, UCF fans are spoiled compared to how Herman behaved. Nebraska is even being accommodating here. Apparently it was even complicated with setting up the liability insurance for the staff this month. The CFO from UCF and Nebraska were working overdrive together to make it work.

If Houston was handled like the UCF exit was, you all would have been in the playoffs.

Honestly, I think once Herman knew he was going to Texas, he didn't care. The BIG difference between the two situations is Texas is two hours away and having Houston win/attend back-to-back major bowls would not be good for Texas. If Herman knew he was out the door to Austin, why help create a monster threat right down the road?

And, if you think that's too conspiracy theorist of me, consider the fact Herman blew the redshirt on about a dozen guys last year by playing them for a few minutes here and there with no reason in the latter part of the season.

(12-12-2017 05:49 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Honestly, I think once Herman knew he was going to Texas, he didn't care. The BIG difference between the two situations is Texas is two hours away and having Houston win/attend back-to-back major bowls would not be good for Texas. If Herman knew he was out the door to Austin, why help create a monster threat right down the road?

And, if you think that's too conspiracy theorist of me, consider the fact Herman blew the redshirt on about a dozen guys last year by playing them for a few minutes here and there with no reason in the latter part of the season.

Herman was the primary reason that last season was such a failure. UH should have fired herman mid season like i was calling for, If they had it would have shown that we aren’t willing to allow a coach to ruin our program and that we will embarrass any coach that dares to.


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(12-12-2017 05:49 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Honestly, I think once Herman knew he was going to Texas, he didn't care. The BIG difference between the two situations is Texas is two hours away and having Houston win/attend back-to-back major bowls would not be good for Texas. If Herman knew he was out the door to Austin, why help create a monster threat right down the road?

And, if you think that's too conspiracy theorist of me, consider the fact Herman blew the redshirt on about a dozen guys last year by playing them for a few minutes here and there with no reason in the latter part of the season.

Wow. I’ve never heard this theory. Incredibly F’d up if true.

(12-12-2017 05:56 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 05:49 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Honestly, I think once Herman knew he was going to Texas, he didn't care. The BIG difference between the two situations is Texas is two hours away and having Houston win/attend back-to-back major bowls would not be good for Texas. If Herman knew he was out the door to Austin, why help create a monster threat right down the road?

And, if you think that's too conspiracy theorist of me, consider the fact Herman blew the redshirt on about a dozen guys last year by playing them for a few minutes here and there with no reason in the latter part of the season.

Wow. I’ve never heard this theory. Incredibly F’d up if true.

Its also the same reason Sumlin sabotaged the c-usa championship us beating usm would have been really bad for his recruiting at aTm.


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(12-12-2017 03:33 PM)otown Wrote:  Just curious, did Danny White hijack the UCF presidency? Look at the UCF website. LOL

https://www.ucf.edu/

Yep. Almost ready for the name change.

(12-12-2017 05:32 PM)otown Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 05:21 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Herman flirted with South Carolina 6 games into his first season. I've heard he first met with Texas officials the week of the Navy game (our first loss).

Remember, he was asked point blank before the Memphis game about meeting with Texas/LSU officials and he had that shifty-eyed lie answer that became a GIF. We lost the Memphis game and he was announced as the next head coach of Texas before the plane landed back in Houston. According to Herman, he'd want you to think he hadn't spoken to them before the Memphis game but he was HIRED in the air? That's not how it works.

After that all went through, players immediately started tweeting out that they had been lied to. Ed Oliver even asked "why did you lie, Coach?" in a tweet before deleting it. As if that weren't douchebag enough, he then took his courtesy vehicle and drove in the the airport and left it with the key in it and called a UH staffer to go retrieve it. He then hired almost all of our staff and stole several of our best recruits. We then went to the Las Vegas Bowl where we played solid during the first half but with only 4 people coaching and nobody with experience in the booth, we clearly couldn't/didn't make adjustments and we got rolled in the second half creating FANHOOD.

Herman is a POS.

Wow, UCF fans are spoiled compared to how Herman behaved. Nebraska is even being accommodating here. Apparently it was even complicated with setting up the liability insurance for the staff this month. The CFO from UCF and Nebraska were working overdrive together to make it work.

If Houston was handled like the UCF exit was, you all would have been in the playoffs.

Nebraska is being accommodating bc it’s what they’re selling their fans and recruits.

(12-12-2017 10:17 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 05:32 PM)otown Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 05:21 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Herman flirted with South Carolina 6 games into his first season. I've heard he first met with Texas officials the week of the Navy game (our first loss).

Remember, he was asked point blank before the Memphis game about meeting with Texas/LSU officials and he had that shifty-eyed lie answer that became a GIF. We lost the Memphis game and he was announced as the next head coach of Texas before the plane landed back in Houston. According to Herman, he'd want you to think he hadn't spoken to them before the Memphis game but he was HIRED in the air? That's not how it works.

After that all went through, players immediately started tweeting out that they had been lied to. Ed Oliver even asked "why did you lie, Coach?" in a tweet before deleting it. As if that weren't douchebag enough, he then took his courtesy vehicle and drove in the the airport and left it with the key in it and called a UH staffer to go retrieve it. He then hired almost all of our staff and stole several of our best recruits. We then went to the Las Vegas Bowl where we played solid during the first half but with only 4 people coaching and nobody with experience in the booth, we clearly couldn't/didn't make adjustments and we got rolled in the second half creating FANHOOD.

Herman is a POS.

Wow, UCF fans are spoiled compared to how Herman behaved. Nebraska is even being accommodating here. Apparently it was even complicated with setting up the liability insurance for the staff this month. The CFO from UCF and Nebraska were working overdrive together to make it work.

If Houston was handled like the UCF exit was, you all would have been in the playoffs.

Nebraska is being accommodating bc it’s what they’re selling their fans and recruits.

Nebraska is accommodating because it was apart of Frost’s terms. He didn’t want to abandon the players in their big moment. The family first is big with Frost.

Nebraska was forced to pivot and make it “a commercial for husker football.”

Frost demanded that he coach the bowl. Nebraska didn’t put him up to it. UCF didn’t beg for it. It was a locker room decision between players and coaches. Frost was the big fish of the the coaching carousel and this was his demand.

Scott Frost is a class act. He really is.

(12-12-2017 01:11 PM)otown Wrote:  Well, it seems like they are going all in. A pretty good press conference and they have a busy next 3 weeks. Seems like the players will be as prepared as they can be for the game.

https://www.facebook.com/ucffootball/vid...415643047/

Despite the fact that this all seems like a circus, UCF make navigate this entire thing coming out unscathed this season as well as going into the next season with the new coaching staff.

Which leads me back to the Houston debacle. It seems that the Frost circus through the season was just as bad as the Herman circus. Did Houston lose their entire staff after the season? Why did it affect the Houston team worse than UCF? Was it Herman just being a douche and not caring one bit about his players? Did the Houston players feel that? It seems that Frost really does care about the UCF players and they bought into it during the season and even now during the bowl prep. From what I hear, it was a great practice today.

the Herman saga last season was the exact same scenario as the Fuente exit in 2015. folks knew he was gone in November, the team tanked and we played a road game Birmingham Bowl against Auburn with only Coach Dickey and some GA's manning the ship (yeah there were a couple of Fuente guys still hanging around during the practices but they weren't helping as much as hurting)

(12-13-2017 02:00 AM)No Bull Wrote:  Scott Frost is a class act. He really is.

He's not doing this because he is a nice guy. He's doing this so that he can recruit in FL and advertise Nebraska football during the Peach bowl.

(12-13-2017 08:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 02:00 AM)No Bull Wrote:  Scott Frost is a class act. He really is.

He's not doing this because he is a nice guy. He's doing this so that he can recruit in FL and advertise Nebraska football during the Peach bowl.

Thank you. People like to believe he’s a class act, and that’s okay. Count me as skeptical due to his secret philly meeting, lying to recruits, as well as pulling current ucf commits to Nebraska. Not very classy.

(12-12-2017 10:38 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 10:17 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 05:32 PM)otown Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 05:21 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Herman flirted with South Carolina 6 games into his first season. I've heard he first met with Texas officials the week of the Navy game (our first loss).

Remember, he was asked point blank before the Memphis game about meeting with Texas/LSU officials and he had that shifty-eyed lie answer that became a GIF. We lost the Memphis game and he was announced as the next head coach of Texas before the plane landed back in Houston. According to Herman, he'd want you to think he hadn't spoken to them before the Memphis game but he was HIRED in the air? That's not how it works.

After that all went through, players immediately started tweeting out that they had been lied to. Ed Oliver even asked "why did you lie, Coach?" in a tweet before deleting it. As if that weren't douchebag enough, he then took his courtesy vehicle and drove in the the airport and left it with the key in it and called a UH staffer to go retrieve it. He then hired almost all of our staff and stole several of our best recruits. We then went to the Las Vegas Bowl where we played solid during the first half but with only 4 people coaching and nobody with experience in the booth, we clearly couldn't/didn't make adjustments and we got rolled in the second half creating FANHOOD.

Herman is a POS.

Wow, UCF fans are spoiled compared to how Herman behaved. Nebraska is even being accommodating here. Apparently it was even complicated with setting up the liability insurance for the staff this month. The CFO from UCF and Nebraska were working overdrive together to make it work.

If Houston was handled like the UCF exit was, you all would have been in the playoffs.

Nebraska is being accommodating bc it’s what they’re selling their fans and recruits.

Nebraska is accommodating because it was apart of Frost’s terms. He didn’t want to abandon the players in their big moment. The family first is big with Frost.

Nebraska was forced to pivot and make it “a commercial for husker football.”

Frost demanded that he coach the bowl. Nebraska didn’t put him up to it. UCF didn’t beg for it. It was a locker room decision between players and coaches. Frost was the big fish of the the coaching carousel and this was his demand.

It also helps that the Nebraska athletic department was trained by Tom Osborne and wishes to re-establish the Cornhusker tradition. Frost's way is the Nebraska way. Coaches burned a lot of bridges after Solich was fired.

I've watched enough UCF conspiracy theories the last few weeks to figure there are some Houston ones too.

Emotions are real.

We were a play or two away from losing the USF and Memphis games. If we had lost either, the same fans that credit Frost for not letting the job opp affect his performance would be the ones crying negligence.

In other words, Houston been coogin it before Texas came for your coach.