I like Jackson and all but Avery >>>> Dillon. And it ain’t even close.

(12-09-2017 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:30 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:21 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 11:26 AM)tigerderek Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 10:45 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Why do people put Dillon on a pedestal

Cause when he was healthy he was pretty damn good...it was hard to get on the outside with his speed and he was a sure fire NFL player but injuries happen...is what it is...does that answer your question?

Sure fire NFL player?

pffft...Look up his stats. I think your memory is a bit off.

If Dillion was a sure fire NFL player Avery must be a sure fire NFL 1st teamer

lol I never said he was going in the first rd but he was going to be a draftable type player after his senior before all of his injuries...Smh

NFL player means you actually make the practice squad...

Dillon best year he made 43 tackles at Linebacker...I doubt he gets drafted if he maintained that level

Did you watch him play? Or just look up his stats? He was never used as just a traditional LB. He played the edge, dropped in coverage, even lined up directly across outside receivers. Not many players his size that can take on 320 lbs lineman on one play and then cover a 6'4 wide receiver the next. He was (and hopefully will be again) an NFL caliber player. Just go watch the 2014 BYU game and the 2015 Ole Miss game and tell me he wasn't the best defensive player on the field.

There were 2 plays against Ole Miss in particular-1) when he blew up a wide receiver screen by knocking 2 blockers into the receiver, essentially tackling 3 players at once (btw, for stats, that just went down as an incomplete pass), and 2) when he knocked Nkemdiche the f out.

If he had been used "just" as an edge rusher or "just" as a middle linebacker, his tackle stats would have been much different.

(12-09-2017 02:11 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I like Jackson and all but Avery >>>> Dillon. And it ain’t even close.

Ask anyone on the team that and you will get a different answer. While most would say Avery is better, it isn't anywhere close to what you are saying.

Dillon was an absolute BEAST in the spring and during fall camp. Nobody on our line could block him one on one.

(12-09-2017 02:29 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 02:11 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I like Jackson and all but Avery >>>> Dillon. And it ain’t even close.

Ask anyone on the team that and you will get a different answer. While most would say Avery is better, it isn't anywhere close to what you are saying.

Dillon was an absolute BEAST in the spring and during fall camp. Nobody on our line could block him one on one.

Bad thing about going by stats is u can't really determine if a player is good or ok or great...if your defense sucks as a whole then you're not putting up crazy stats.

(12-09-2017 02:17 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:30 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:21 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 11:26 AM)tigerderek Wrote:  Cause when he was healthy he was pretty damn good...it was hard to get on the outside with his speed and he was a sure fire NFL player but injuries happen...is what it is...does that answer your question?

Sure fire NFL player?

pffft...Look up his stats. I think your memory is a bit off.

If Dillion was a sure fire NFL player Avery must be a sure fire NFL 1st teamer

lol I never said he was going in the first rd but he was going to be a draftable type player after his senior before all of his injuries...Smh

NFL player means you actually make the practice squad...

Dillon best year he made 43 tackles at Linebacker...I doubt he gets drafted if he maintained that level

Did you watch him play? Or just look up his stats? He was never used as just a traditional LB. He played the edge, dropped in coverage, even lined up directly across outside receivers. Not many players his size that can take on 320 lbs lineman on one play and then cover a 6'4 wide receiver the next. He was (and hopefully will be again) an NFL caliber player. Just go watch the 2014 BYU game and the 2015 Ole Miss game and tell me he wasn't the best defensive player on the field.

There were 2 plays against Ole Miss in particular-1) when he blew up a wide receiver screen by knocking 2 blockers into the receiver, essentially tackling 3 players at once (btw, for stats, that just went down as an incomplete pass), and 2) when he knocked Nkemdiche the f out.

If he had been used "just" as an edge rusher or "just" as a middle linebacker, his tackle stats would have been much different.

Watched every game but at least I see why you like him but he did play pretty much the same position as Avery.

Dantari Poe got drafted High because of the combine...his stats in college weren't all of that and he only had 33 tackles and one sack his junior year.

(12-09-2017 02:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 02:17 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:30 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:21 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sure fire NFL player?

pffft...Look up his stats. I think your memory is a bit off.

If Dillion was a sure fire NFL player Avery must be a sure fire NFL 1st teamer

lol I never said he was going in the first rd but he was going to be a draftable type player after his senior before all of his injuries...Smh

NFL player means you actually make the practice squad...

Dillon best year he made 43 tackles at Linebacker...I doubt he gets drafted if he maintained that level

Did you watch him play? Or just look up his stats? He was never used as just a traditional LB. He played the edge, dropped in coverage, even lined up directly across outside receivers. Not many players his size that can take on 320 lbs lineman on one play and then cover a 6'4 wide receiver the next. He was (and hopefully will be again) an NFL caliber player. Just go watch the 2014 BYU game and the 2015 Ole Miss game and tell me he wasn't the best defensive player on the field.

There were 2 plays against Ole Miss in particular-1) when he blew up a wide receiver screen by knocking 2 blockers into the receiver, essentially tackling 3 players at once (btw, for stats, that just went down as an incomplete pass), and 2) when he knocked Nkemdiche the f out.

If he had been used "just" as an edge rusher or "just" as a middle linebacker, his tackle stats would have been much different.

Watched every game but at least I see why you like him but he did play pretty much the same position as Avery.

Apparently not every game...lol it's all good bud!

(12-09-2017 02:42 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Dantari Poe got drafted High because of the combine...his stats in college weren't all of that and he only had 33 tackles and one sack his junior year.

It helps when you run a 4.8 40 at nearly 350lbs and can do 44 reps @ 225

(12-09-2017 03:48 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 02:42 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Dantari Poe got drafted High because of the combine...his stats in college weren't all of that and he only had 33 tackles and one sack his junior year.

It helps when you run a 4.8 40 at nearly 350lbs and can do 44 reps @ 225

Crazy numbers.

(12-09-2017 04:19 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 03:48 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 02:42 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Dantari Poe got drafted High because of the combine...his stats in college weren't all of that and he only had 33 tackles and one sack his junior year.

It helps when you run a 4.8 40 at nearly 350lbs and can do 44 reps @ 225

Crazy numbers.

Falcons had him going out on pass routes from the fullback position vs the Saints last Thursday. He is a unique athlete.

(12-09-2017 02:11 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I like Jackson and all but Avery >>>> Dillon. And it ain’t even close.

Dillon was better of the two before he got hurt. Was best player on entire defense

(12-09-2017 07:37 PM)Newton card Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 02:11 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I like Jackson and all but Avery >>>> Dillon. And it ain’t even close.

Dillon was better of the two before he got hurt. Was best player on entire defense

Dillon has been up and down. Injuries and side affects had to be part of it. But Norvell's own words this summer said he was a difference-maker. Said he didn't realize the impact Jackson had on the D until he saw it in practice.

As close as that UCF game was...not a stretch to think Jackson would have made a play or two that would have changed things.

No idea what he would do in NFL and it doesn't really matter to the discussion of his contribution to the Tigers.

So for arguments sake, let’s say you have a healthy Dillon and healthy Avery. You can choose 1 to put on the defense next year. You can tell me with a straight fave you’d pick Dillon? Y’all crazy. Genard Avery has been our defensive anchor since 2014 and has made more plays at multiple positions than anyone on that defense. The guy has been the epitome of a great Tiger.

(12-10-2017 01:56 AM)WColt45 Wrote:  So for arguments sake, let’s say you have a healthy Dillon and healthy Avery. You can choose 1 to put on the defense next year. You can tell me with a straight fave you’d pick Dillon? Y’all crazy. Genard Avery has been our defensive anchor since 2014 and has made more plays at multiple positions than anyone on that defense. The guy has been the epitome of a great Tiger.

Dammit,u missing the point....I want to be be in the peach bowl and injuries kept that from us....who gives a sh!t who's better.

I always hoped we'd try Dillon at Tight End, freshman/sophomore seasons. With his size and speed and love for contact, he'd have made an interesting experiment. And he might have stayed healthier playing on offense.

(12-09-2017 10:45 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 09:32 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  With a healthy Dillon we're prob in the peach bowl...with gentry and Dillon it would have been a given...those are the breaks though but to be 10-2 at this point is something else.

Why do people put Dillon on a pedestal

Go look at the BYU game video........

(12-11-2017 11:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 10:45 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 09:32 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  With a healthy Dillon we're prob in the peach bowl...with gentry and Dillon it would have been a given...those are the breaks though but to be 10-2 at this point is something else.

Why do people put Dillon on a pedestal

Go look at the BYU game video........

One game does not make a career...But hey whatever floats your boat.

So I guess I will be hearing about Austin Halls game against Navy until he is done and how he will be in the league.

Well, I think the intention by most of us was that a healthy Dillon is a + for the D. Not a comparison to Avery or a NFL draft projection. Just that he's a difference maker on D - Norvell's own words - and that it's very possible we're in the Peach with a healthy Dillon.

Hope he makes it back.

(12-11-2017 12:20 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 11:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 10:45 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 09:32 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  With a healthy Dillon we're prob in the peach bowl...with gentry and Dillon it would have been a given...those are the breaks though but to be 10-2 at this point is something else.

Why do people put Dillon on a pedestal

Go look at the BYU game video........

One game does not make a career...But hey whatever floats your boat.

So I guess I will be hearing about Austin Halls game against Navy until he is done and how he will be in the league.

Probably.