This has nothing to do with integrity. Some of you are clueless.

(11-29-2017 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 09:59 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm shocked it was cmett003 that started this thread, shocked I tell you!

Worry about yourself.

FIFY

You didn't fix squat.

He's not the only Monarch riding on a high horse for no reason.

(11-28-2017 09:30 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  It actually helps conference rpi to not play low level d1 teams. So im all for these crap schools to ply d2/3 teams

This. Some people have no clue how RPI actually works.

(11-29-2017 09:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 09:59 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm shocked it was cmett003 that started this thread, shocked I tell you!

Worry about yourself.

FIFY

You didn't fix squat.

He's not the only Monarch riding on a high horse for no reason.

One Monarch fan starts a thread about OOC scheduling, other ODU fans try to dismiss it. And all 3 MT fans flip. Maybe you all enjoy these threads as much as we get annoyed by them.

(11-29-2017 10:22 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 09:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 09:59 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm shocked it was cmett003 that started this thread, shocked I tell you!

Worry about yourself.

FIFY

You didn't fix squat.

He's not the only Monarch riding on a high horse for no reason.

One Monarch fan starts a thread about OOC scheduling, other ODU fans try to dismiss it. And all 3 MT fans flip. Maybe you all enjoy these threads as much as we get annoyed by them.

Thank you. Appreciated. However, a few of your mates doubled down.

That said I will say this in favor of their position. Three is way too damn many. Absurd. At the very least they could schedule a home and home with Bethune Cookman instead of playing three.

One is ok - particularly if there are extenuating circumstances (such as first game for a very young team or couldn't find a date for anyone but a 300+ teams) Not three. And FAU does deserve to be called out for that.

(11-28-2017 10:22 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 10:19 PM)Franko Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 08:19 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Avenue Maria ... isn't that the name of some 2 lane gravel road just a couple miles south of Titusville, FL?

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Nice looking campus, over by Naples-Ft Myers area. Not too far from the casino I've been to over in Immokalee. Can't remember the name right now.

They had a law school that, when I was kicking the tires on going to law school in the 2000s, was in Michigan. It moved to Florida in 2009. Not the type of move you see every day.

This is the school that was established by thevery Catholic founder of Domino's

(11-29-2017 10:34 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:22 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 09:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 09:59 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm shocked it was cmett003 that started this thread, shocked I tell you!

Worry about yourself.

FIFY

You didn't fix squat.

He's not the only Monarch riding on a high horse for no reason.

One Monarch fan starts a thread about OOC scheduling, other ODU fans try to dismiss it. And all 3 MT fans flip. Maybe you all enjoy these threads as much as we get annoyed by them.

Thank you. Appreciated. However, a few of your mates doubled down.

That said I will say this in favor of their position. Three is way too damn many. Absurd. At the very least they could schedule a home and home with Bethune Cookman instead of playing three.

One is ok - particularly if there are extenuating circumstances (such as first game for a very young team or couldn't find a date for anyone but a 300+ teams) Not three. And FAU does deserve to be called out for that.

It will be interesting to see where FAU's RPI is in about another month coming into the conference season after following this RPI boosting formula.

Where's WKUYG with his spreadsheets? I want to see what and how much of a difference we're talking about. If FAU replaced these games with (presumably) winnable D1 games that would increase thier winning percentage which would help the rest of our RPI's no?

I know MT has a hard time scheduling games with decent RPI teams. FGCU had the same problem, so we scheduled a home-and-home back-to-back this season.

I wonder if the same is true for bad RPI programs. Do they have a difficult time scheduling games with better RPI teams, because they are afraid their RPI will drop like an anvil ?

Anywho....... isn't RPI going the way of the dodo bird ?

Playing a D2 game vs a team that going to win 10 games or less is better for the RPI/SOS of that team. But not for the rest of the conference.

Who FAU plays is going to be 1 of 870+ games on the last 25% of a opponents RPI/SOS. So by FAU playing a bottom feeder 300 RPI (or 200) it will hurt their RPI ranking but if they win that game it will help every conference team they play.

The largest part of your SOS (and RPI) is the average winning % of the schools you play (minus the game you played...if FAU goes 10-20 but loss to your school their record is 10-19 or a w% of .344 instead of .333)

This part of the SOS/RPI is made up of the total D1 games you played...it's easier to have a impact on 29-30 games of average winning% than 870 (the last part of your SOS and 25% of your RPI) or so.

So in the long run it's better for a team that is expected to compete for the CUSA championship and hopefully a at large if they don't win the CUSA Tourney if they play a D2 team rather than a 200+ RPI team with a 10 win season.

For a home win it only counts as .6 of a win (road win 1.4 and home loss 1.4, NC 1) so the win is not going to offset the fact you played a team that is going to drop your RPI/SOS 7 to 10 spots.

I'm going to use FAU but any bottom CUSA is the same. If you are expected to be fighting for a lower spot or just to get into the CUSA tourney....D1 wins are more important. So if you only have a limited number of games you are expected to win...,

try to replace that D2 game with a beatable D1 team. But if they lose that D1 game it's going to hurt each of us that plays FAU. So the key part is WIN. For a FAU (again just using them as a example) playing a 300 type RPI team is not going to hurt their RPI as much...because in the end it doesn't matter if they are a 200, 250 or 300 RPI team....all are considered bad wins to the team that beats them.

That D1 win is compounded to every team you play in conference. Other words while the playing of a 300 RPI team might lower FAU's RPI....it will not hurt the other teams they play as much.

If a FAU won 8 D1 games and played 2 D2 games and loss 20 D1 games....8-20 or a winning % of .285 (8/28). Replace the D2 games with D1 wins and you are 10-20 a winning % of .333. It doesn't look like much but if you have 4 bottom feeders doing that....it could mean the difference in being ranked a few spots higher for that team fighting for a at large bid.

A LOSS even to Duke is only going to help the team taking that loss...it will hurt the rest of us. So no don't go out and get your head stomped in.....SCHEDULE TO THE TALENT you suppose to have. If you are expected to be fighting for a bid...schedule that way. If you are expected to be fighting for the bottom. Schedule as many winnable home games as you can. Don't give up those home games to D2 teams. Unless there is no other option

Here's another example and I used Middle for this one...

I ran a RPI Wizard on their schedule and had them going 22-5

their RPI would be 20th with a SOS of 104

I ran another one and the only thing I changed was to add a home game with Alcorn St and their record was 23-5

Their RPI is now 25th with a SOS of 109

So Middle would have been better to have scheduled a D2 team instead of Alcorn St

If they had played @Alcorn St their RPI would be 23rd

Why are we bringing this **** up yet again. How about we focus on our season and not lose to William and Mary. Getting pretty tired of some of our posters acting like we're mf Kentucky or something

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(11-29-2017 12:13 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  Why are we bringing this **** up yet again. How about we focus on our season and not lose to William and Mary. Getting pretty tired of some of our posters acting like we're mf Kentucky or something

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WE didn't bring this **** up again. An individual did. The rest of us (yourself included) are making comments about it. Judging by some of those comments, it appears that ODU should drop William and Mary in favor of playing Christopher Newport. It would help both their RPI and won/loss record.

We get called out, rightfully so, because each and every year there's some ODU fans who come on here and post how we are God's Team and this conference is inferior.

Then we go lose to W&M, as is tradition, and usually those posters go away.

We have no room to talk, we haven't won jack in this conference. Some of our posters are living in the past acting like we own the conference like we did with CAA. Even if we win back to back championships, that's still no way to talk on here. It's just mildly frustrating, especially when it always seems to come from ODU fans.

Just STAAHHP

Yeah.

(And, even worse, these comments always seems to make Empty Sue feel even emptier. We need to think about her feelings. She's exceedingly delicate, you know. What kind of monsters are we?)

(11-29-2017 01:34 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Yeah.

(And, even worse, these comments always seems to make Empty Sue feel even emptier. We need to think about her feelings. She's exceedingly delicate, you know. What kind of monsters are we?)

Yes, because we are really worried about our feelings as we continue to curb stomp the rest of this league.

Seriously, you guys really are delusional sometimes.

Delusional? Yes. But it never gets old.

Looking forward to Feb. 1.

(11-29-2017 01:39 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Looking forward to Feb. 1.

Why?

(11-29-2017 01:41 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 01:39 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Looking forward to Feb. 1.

Why?

Self-condolences beer tastes almost as good as victory beer.

Let's just be clear here. This conference IS awful in basketball. 23rd or 22nd best league in the country is awful. What makes it worse is there are many good teams every year so it's not like dominating the conference is going to come easily. If we played in the Patriot league then sure we know we not going to be ranked higher than a 14 seed but at least we'd be pretty damned likely to win it most years. People should be upset and changes should be made. Poking at MT fans to get their panties bunched is just good fun. They've obviously put together a good schedule for their caliber team. But scheduling in this conference in general absolutely needs to be addressed and it's going to come up on here and hopefully at conference meetings until it does. Unfortunately, scheduling alone won't fix it but when you see a team schedule 3 non Div I schools in a year it's one of the more obvious signs that they just don't give a **** about basketball and that's frustrating to those who do. ODU should be embarrassed for shooting 28% from the FT line the other night. If not for that they would have won. Otherwise from what I saw they played pretty well and W&M shot the lights out. It happens, it's unfortunate and is a dark spot on a pretty good start to the season. But we're not the problem in this conference. We may be loud and obnoxious, we may have not yet won a championship but we're carrying our weight. Being bad is one thing, we've been bad before but we've never not given a **** that we were bad.