I don't think you know the meaning of bad.

(11-28-2017 11:43 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  I don't think you know the meaning of bad.

Well they certainly aren’t good.

(11-28-2017 03:37 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 03:21 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 02:55 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  LOL...we are 2-4 with a 347 sos.

Just wait til y'all knock off WSU and screw the whole conference #LEBO'D

The only way that happens is if Hitachi plays their cheerleaders against us. And that would be close. I can only assume that our players are either awful or are not trying. We won't win 10 games this year.

I’m honestly rooting for ECU to lose every game they play so that they finally get a new coach.

(11-28-2017 02:34 PM)AndShock Wrote:  I put this on ShockerNet, figured I'd post here to generate some discussion. Excuse the crappy formatting.

OoC SoS Forecasts
UCONN 11
Temple 27
Wichita State 35
Memphis 139
SMU 153
UCF 164
Tulsa 236
Tulane 255
Houston 261
Cincinnati 270
South Florida 346
East Carolina 347

East Carolina -
South Florida - I'm going to hope that schedule was put together by the previous coaching staff. 346 is even in a complete rebuild.
Cincinnati - Are you guys too poor to afford good buy games like Wichita State?
Houston - I thought you were supposed to compete for an at-large this year? Not with that schedule!

Everyone else is fine with gold stars for Temple and UCONN (even though UCONN sucks).

who knows they are projecting lsu, saint louis, wake buttom 150 rpi teams...its early ..all 3 have 5star elite players and projected tourney teams before the season...
fairfield was supposed to be a top 100 rpi team

and so we dont rely to much on this. literally 2 games ago houston had one of the better projected rpi ooc schedule....fairfield, st louis and lsu were all projected top 100 rpi by the projector....to show you how drastic this changes on a daily basis...there is no where near enough of sample size to project rpi at this point in the season

These metrics will be very accurate by New Years when OOC Games are over. It may be a little early to draw too many conclusions from the current data.

Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

2-4 and there are only 4 teams with an easier OoC than ECU. That is garbage!

(11-29-2017 12:42 AM)PirateJP Wrote:  2-4 and there are only 4 teams with an easier OoC than ECU. That is garbage!

If it makes you feel any better your current SoS is 269, it’s just projected to end up bottom 5 in D1

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

(11-29-2017 02:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

Fine. Tell me a minimum OoC SoS Houston will have. I say Houston will finish over 200. You want to place a wager that they won’t?

Tell me the best KenPom or RPI or Sagarin or BPI (pick your metric) and I will find a team that is worse than that who ends up with a top 100 win at the end of the season.

Let’s get some concrete numbers out there instead of just talking generalities.

lol at getting panties in a wad over RPI and SOS in November.


WSU fans is so stupid....

(11-29-2017 07:32 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol at getting panties in a wad over RPI and SOS in November.


WSU fans is so stupid....

As soon as they take a loss, they get all timid and unsure of themselves on these boards.

(11-29-2017 02:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

If Drake isn't a bad team, you guys are gonna need to lay off the cupcake conference smack-talk. You're really not helping your credibility here.

(11-29-2017 10:37 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

If Drake isn't a bad team, you guys are gonna need to lay off the cupcake conference smack-talk. You're really not helping your credibility here.

no you made a black and white argument out of one that has many shades of gray

wsu played sme decent teams last year, but when we are talking "good" in that argument we are talking to the level wsu homers hype themselves up to be

wichita fans are saying they'll beat decent teams in our league by atleast 30, your backups would win tons of games in the AAC, you are going to win the league and it wont be close...will also unprovoked start trashing another team for no reason

we respond saying you didnt play anyone good....what we mean is you didnt play anyone good enough to have this much cockiness

before wichita fans joined the forum, most of us celebrated wichita, and ALL wanted you to be good...
we all collectively root against yall (Despite it hurting ourr conference) because your fanbase is the worst..you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney..and you lost to some that didnt make it

(11-29-2017 10:45 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:37 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

If Drake isn't a bad team, you guys are gonna need to lay off the cupcake conference smack-talk. You're really not helping your credibility here.

no you made a black and white argument out of one that has many shades of gray

wsu played sme decent teams last year, but when we are talking "good" in that argument we are talking to the level wsu homers hype themselves up to be

wichita fans are saying they'll beat decent teams in our league by atleast 30, your backups would win tons of games in the AAC, you are going to win the league and it wont be close...will also unprovoked start trashing another team for no reason

we respond saying you didnt play anyone good....what we mean is you didnt play anyone good enough to have this much cockiness

before wichita fans joined the forum, most of us celebrated wichita, and ALL wanted you to be good...
we all collectively root against yall (Despite it hurting ourr conference) because your fanbase is the worst..you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney..and you lost to some that didnt make it

Where did I make a black and white argument?

Where are all the WSU fans saying any of these things: "wichita fans are saying they'll beat decent teams in our league by atleast 30, your backups would win tons of games in the AAC, you are going to win the league and it wont be close"

This is factually incorrect: "you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney"


Seems like the two biggest problems is people making things up about WSU, and people being upset that WSU fans brought a couple trolls to join the many already present on this fine forum.

(11-29-2017 08:29 AM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 07:32 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lol at getting panties in a wad over RPI and SOS in November.


WSU fans is so stupid....

As soon as they take a loss, they get all timid and unsure of themselves on these boards.

I can’t wait.

No mercy will be shown to those who have shown no mercy.

(11-29-2017 10:45 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:37 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Wake Forest just beat Illinois tonight.
St. Louis beat Virginia Tech earlier this year.
LSU beat Michigan out in Maui.

Bad teams don't have wins like those.

Also, you clearly do not know how the rpi works and why it's way too earlier to use it to measure anything. As of right now, Prairie View A&M is predicted to be our third toughest out of conference game. Tougher than Wake. Tougher than LSU. Tougher than St Louis.

No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

If Drake isn't a bad team, you guys are gonna need to lay off the cupcake conference smack-talk. You're really not helping your credibility here.

no you made a black and white argument out of one that has many shades of gray

wsu played sme decent teams last year, but when we are talking "good" in that argument we are talking to the level wsu homers hype themselves up to be

wichita fans are saying they'll beat decent teams in our league by atleast 30, your backups would win tons of games in the AAC, you are going to win the league and it wont be close...will also unprovoked start trashing another team for no reason

we respond saying you didnt play anyone good....what we mean is you didnt play anyone good enough to have this much cockiness

before wichita fans joined the forum, most of us celebrated wichita, and ALL wanted you to be good...
we all collectively root against yall (Despite it hurting ourr conference) because your fanbase is the worst..you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney..and you lost to some that didnt make it

You type a lot. You ellipsis a lot. But you don’t know a lot.

(11-29-2017 10:58 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:45 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:37 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:24 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:30 AM)AndShock Wrote:  No they’re not? Prairie View is predicted to have an RPI of 231 which is worse than the schools you mentioned. I think you have mixed up the meanings of the word “predicted” and “current.”


And I guess Drake isn’t a bad team.

Hey Einstein, the simple point is we are not even in December yet. Using the rpi right now is meaningless. Using the predictor is stupid.

Also, no, Drake is not a bad team. Bad teams are not 4-1 with a 5 point loss to Colorado as the only blemish. A bad team is the one the Shockers played tonight.

If Drake isn't a bad team, you guys are gonna need to lay off the cupcake conference smack-talk. You're really not helping your credibility here.

no you made a black and white argument out of one that has many shades of gray

wsu played sme decent teams last year, but when we are talking "good" in that argument we are talking to the level wsu homers hype themselves up to be

wichita fans are saying they'll beat decent teams in our league by atleast 30, your backups would win tons of games in the AAC, you are going to win the league and it wont be close...will also unprovoked start trashing another team for no reason

we respond saying you didnt play anyone good....what we mean is you didnt play anyone good enough to have this much cockiness

before wichita fans joined the forum, most of us celebrated wichita, and ALL wanted you to be good...
we all collectively root against yall (Despite it hurting ourr conference) because your fanbase is the worst..you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney..and you lost to some that didnt make it

Where did I make a black and white argument?

Where are all the WSU fans saying any of these things: "wichita fans are saying they'll beat decent teams in our league by atleast 30, your backups would win tons of games in the AAC, you are going to win the league and it wont be close"

This is factually incorrect: "you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney"


Seems like the two biggest problems is people making things up about WSU, and people being upset that WSU fans brought a couple trolls to join the many already present on this fine forum.

in different game threads, wsu fans have said theyd beat teams by 30 when they were struggling, even games they actually won..that has happened numerous times

go to the game thread where we went 0-5 that day, numerous wsu fans said their backups would win tons of games in this league, and that theyve been saying it for a while...probably could even do so with only playing 3 starters like bama...

This is factually incorrect: "you were 30-4, 0 of those teams you beat in the regular season made the tourney"

not a single "regular" season win you had made the tournment, that is a fact and lost to illinios state who didnt make the tournament, that is another fact

This thread has been shocked stupid.

#hitachipower