RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-27-2017 05:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:48 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote: It's much easier to have conservative little towns where there is likely very little economic and social diversity.
as well as very little crime
Yes because the population is middle and upper class.
So you see, the bigger cities aren't the way they are because of liberal policies, it is because the people who can get out do and the one's that can't stay.
So it's not the liberal big city's fault that the leftist policies ran off the middle and upper class and left them with only the people who can't leave?
Quit being so naive. Most Americans don't pay as much attention to politics as we do.
Middle and upper class people leave the city because they want their kids to have a backyard, a nice school to attend, and two car garages. You don't usually see that in the big city.
Get a grip man, not everything revolves around politics. You are beginning to sound paranoid.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 05:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:48 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote: It's much easier to have conservative little towns where there is likely very little economic and social diversity.
as well as very little crime
Yes because the population is middle and upper class.
So you see, the bigger cities aren't the way they are because of liberal policies, it is because the people who can get out do and the one's that can't stay.
So it's not the liberal big city's fault that the leftist policies ran off the middle and upper class and left them with only the people who can't leave?
Quit being so naive. Most Americans don't pay as much attention to politics as we do.
Middle and upper class people leave the city because they want their kids to have a backyard, a nice school to attend, and two car garages. You don't usually see that in the big city.
Get a grip man, not everything revolves around politics. You are beginning to sound paranoid.
Most Americans pay attention, they just don't know it.
They care about rising taxes and move to avoid them.
They care about rising crime and move to avoid it.
They care about increasing regulation of their daily lives and move to avoid it.
They care about declining schools and move to avoid them.
Everything I listed is part and parcel with leftist politics. They might not know that leftism drove them out but the facts and the facts.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 05:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:48 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: as well as very little crime
Yes because the population is middle and upper class.
So you see, the bigger cities aren't the way they are because of liberal policies, it is because the people who can get out do and the one's that can't stay.
So it's not the liberal big city's fault that the leftist policies ran off the middle and upper class and left them with only the people who can't leave?
Quit being so naive. Most Americans don't pay as much attention to politics as we do.
Middle and upper class people leave the city because they want their kids to have a backyard, a nice school to attend, and two car garages. You don't usually see that in the big city.
Get a grip man, not everything revolves around politics. You are beginning to sound paranoid.
Most Americans pay attention, they just don't know it.
They care about rising taxes and move to avoid them.
They care about rising crime and move to avoid it.
They care about increasing regulation of their daily lives and move to avoid it.
They care about declining schools and move to avoid them.
Everything I listed is part and parcel with leftist politics. They might not know that leftism drove them out but the facts and the facts.
Perhaps things are different where you come from. Where I come from, they complain about higher taxes but they don't move because of it.
They may care about rising crime, but they don't blame politics they blame the criminals.
They may complain about regulations but they don't move out of the city or blame liberal politics.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 05:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-27-2017 04:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Yes because the population is middle and upper class.
So you see, the bigger cities aren't the way they are because of liberal policies, it is because the people who can get out do and the one's that can't stay.
So it's not the liberal big city's fault that the leftist policies ran off the middle and upper class and left them with only the people who can't leave?
Quit being so naive. Most Americans don't pay as much attention to politics as we do.
Middle and upper class people leave the city because they want their kids to have a backyard, a nice school to attend, and two car garages. You don't usually see that in the big city.
Get a grip man, not everything revolves around politics. You are beginning to sound paranoid.
Most Americans pay attention, they just don't know it.
They care about rising taxes and move to avoid them.
They care about rising crime and move to avoid it.
They care about increasing regulation of their daily lives and move to avoid it.
They care about declining schools and move to avoid them.
Everything I listed is part and parcel with leftist politics. They might not know that leftism drove them out but the facts and the facts.
Perhaps things are different where you come from. Where I come from, they complain about higher taxes but they don't move because of it.
They may care about rising crime, but they don't blame politics they blame the criminals.
They may complain about regulations but they don't move out of the city or blame liberal politics.
You are just completely brain washed.
Have you ever lived in the big city?
I'm talking something over 500k?
Then the people where you live are spineless.
No, I have never lived in a city that large. I have little desire to even visit them, much less live there. I turned down a position with a Florida department because they required employees to live in their **** hole city. Would have been a $15k a year raise considering income tax but it wasn't worth sending my two young kids to third world level schools.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 01:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-27-2017 05:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote: So it's not the liberal big city's fault that the leftist policies ran off the middle and upper class and left them with only the people who can't leave?
Quit being so naive. Most Americans don't pay as much attention to politics as we do.
Middle and upper class people leave the city because they want their kids to have a backyard, a nice school to attend, and two car garages. You don't usually see that in the big city.
Get a grip man, not everything revolves around politics. You are beginning to sound paranoid.
Most Americans pay attention, they just don't know it.
They care about rising taxes and move to avoid them.
They care about rising crime and move to avoid it.
They care about increasing regulation of their daily lives and move to avoid it.
They care about declining schools and move to avoid them.
Everything I listed is part and parcel with leftist politics. They might not know that leftism drove them out but the facts and the facts.
Perhaps things are different where you come from. Where I come from, they complain about higher taxes but they don't move because of it.
They may care about rising crime, but they don't blame politics they blame the criminals.
They may complain about regulations but they don't move out of the city or blame liberal politics.
You are just completely brain washed.
Have you ever lived in the big city?
I'm talking something over 500k?
Then the people where you live are spineless.
No, I have never lived in a city that large. I have little desire to even visit them, much less live there. I turned down a position with a Florida department because they required employees to live in their **** hole city. Would have been a $15k a year raise considering income tax but it wasn't worth sending my two young kids to third world level schools.
Again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live in a big city. They have a lot of problems that smaller towns just don't have. But at the same time, they have their own set of problems.
I had a wonderful conversation with the owner of a hotel I stayed at in Ruidoso, N.M. Which is a very small town.
He explained to me that he cannot stay fully staffed because most of the young people are on meth.
He also mentioned that they have a huge alcohol problem in that town.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 01:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Quit being so naive. Most Americans don't pay as much attention to politics as we do.
Middle and upper class people leave the city because they want their kids to have a backyard, a nice school to attend, and two car garages. You don't usually see that in the big city.
Get a grip man, not everything revolves around politics. You are beginning to sound paranoid.
Most Americans pay attention, they just don't know it.
They care about rising taxes and move to avoid them.
They care about rising crime and move to avoid it.
They care about increasing regulation of their daily lives and move to avoid it.
They care about declining schools and move to avoid them.
Everything I listed is part and parcel with leftist politics. They might not know that leftism drove them out but the facts and the facts.
Perhaps things are different where you come from. Where I come from, they complain about higher taxes but they don't move because of it.
They may care about rising crime, but they don't blame politics they blame the criminals.
They may complain about regulations but they don't move out of the city or blame liberal politics.
You are just completely brain washed.
Have you ever lived in the big city?
I'm talking something over 500k?
Then the people where you live are spineless.
No, I have never lived in a city that large. I have little desire to even visit them, much less live there. I turned down a position with a Florida department because they required employees to live in their **** hole city. Would have been a $15k a year raise considering income tax but it wasn't worth sending my two young kids to third world level schools.
Again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live in a big city. They have a lot of problems that smaller towns just don't have. But at the same time, they have their own set of problems.
I had a wonderful conversation with the owner of a hotel I stayed at in Ruidoso, N.M. Which is a very small town.
He explained to me that he cannot stay fully staffed because most of the young people are on meth.
He also mentioned that they have a huge alcohol problem in that town.
The biggest problems that the small towns here have is illegal aliens choking their public safety and school budgets beyond what the tax base can support.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote: Most Americans pay attention, they just don't know it.
They care about rising taxes and move to avoid them.
They care about rising crime and move to avoid it.
They care about increasing regulation of their daily lives and move to avoid it.
They care about declining schools and move to avoid them.
Everything I listed is part and parcel with leftist politics. They might not know that leftism drove them out but the facts and the facts.
Perhaps things are different where you come from. Where I come from, they complain about higher taxes but they don't move because of it.
They may care about rising crime, but they don't blame politics they blame the criminals.
They may complain about regulations but they don't move out of the city or blame liberal politics.
You are just completely brain washed.
Have you ever lived in the big city?
I'm talking something over 500k?
Then the people where you live are spineless.
No, I have never lived in a city that large. I have little desire to even visit them, much less live there. I turned down a position with a Florida department because they required employees to live in their **** hole city. Would have been a $15k a year raise considering income tax but it wasn't worth sending my two young kids to third world level schools.
Again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live in a big city. They have a lot of problems that smaller towns just don't have. But at the same time, they have their own set of problems.
I had a wonderful conversation with the owner of a hotel I stayed at in Ruidoso, N.M. Which is a very small town.
He explained to me that he cannot stay fully staffed because most of the young people are on meth.
He also mentioned that they have a huge alcohol problem in that town.
The biggest problems that the small towns here have is illegal aliens choking their public safety and school budgets beyond what the tax base can support.
Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Perhaps things are different where you come from. Where I come from, they complain about higher taxes but they don't move because of it.
They may care about rising crime, but they don't blame politics they blame the criminals.
They may complain about regulations but they don't move out of the city or blame liberal politics.
You are just completely brain washed.
Have you ever lived in the big city?
I'm talking something over 500k?
Then the people where you live are spineless.
No, I have never lived in a city that large. I have little desire to even visit them, much less live there. I turned down a position with a Florida department because they required employees to live in their **** hole city. Would have been a $15k a year raise considering income tax but it wasn't worth sending my two young kids to third world level schools.
Again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live in a big city. They have a lot of problems that smaller towns just don't have. But at the same time, they have their own set of problems.
I had a wonderful conversation with the owner of a hotel I stayed at in Ruidoso, N.M. Which is a very small town.
He explained to me that he cannot stay fully staffed because most of the young people are on meth.
He also mentioned that they have a huge alcohol problem in that town.
The biggest problems that the small towns here have is illegal aliens choking their public safety and school budgets beyond what the tax base can support.
Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Supply and demand.
My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2017 02:26 PM by Kaplony.)
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 02:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote: Then the people where you live are spineless.
No, I have never lived in a city that large. I have little desire to even visit them, much less live there. I turned down a position with a Florida department because they required employees to live in their **** hole city. Would have been a $15k a year raise considering income tax but it wasn't worth sending my two young kids to third world level schools.
Again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live in a big city. They have a lot of problems that smaller towns just don't have. But at the same time, they have their own set of problems.
I had a wonderful conversation with the owner of a hotel I stayed at in Ruidoso, N.M. Which is a very small town.
He explained to me that he cannot stay fully staffed because most of the young people are on meth.
He also mentioned that they have a huge alcohol problem in that town.
The biggest problems that the small towns here have is illegal aliens choking their public safety and school budgets beyond what the tax base can support.
Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Supply and demand.
My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 01:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live in a big city. They have a lot of problems that smaller towns just don't have. But at the same time, they have their own set of problems.
I had a wonderful conversation with the owner of a hotel I stayed at in Ruidoso, N.M. Which is a very small town.
He explained to me that he cannot stay fully staffed because most of the young people are on meth.
He also mentioned that they have a huge alcohol problem in that town.
The biggest problems that the small towns here have is illegal aliens choking their public safety and school budgets beyond what the tax base can support.
Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Supply and demand.
My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
It' speaks volumes to how cold your heart is.
I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote: The biggest problems that the small towns here have is illegal aliens choking their public safety and school budgets beyond what the tax base can support.
Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Supply and demand.
My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
It' speaks volumes to how cold your heart is.
I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
You truly are naive. This country was built on immigration.
The "parasitic horde" is likely why your house was built, you ditches were dug you food is affordable.
This country was built on the backs of slaves and immigrants.
It's astounding how ungreatful you are for your position in life.
But why am I not surprised. Many from your political wing believe that they themselves, through no help from anyone has done everything themselves.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote: I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 03:53 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote: I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
and not speaking English
My mother is an immigrant from Mexico and she speaks English. So do all of her brothers and sisters. Six in all. My grandmother also from Mexico speaks English. And it is that way with thousands of people in this city and around the country that speak English within one generation.
Imagine that. Thousands and thousands of people in this country that not only speak English but in fact speak two languages.
For the life of me I cannot understand how people who only speak one language can have the gall to look down on people who speak two or more languages.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 03:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Supply and demand.
My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
It' speaks volumes to how cold your heart is.
I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
You truly are naive. This country was built on immigration.
The "parasitic horde" is likely why your house was built, you ditches were dug you food is affordable.
This country was built on the backs of slaves and immigrants.
It's astounding how ungreatful you are for your position in life.
But why am I not surprised. Many from your political wing believe that they themselves, through no help from anyone has done everything themselves.
Legal immigration is just something you can't grasp. I guessing your clan all came illegally.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 04:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
(11-28-2017 03:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote: My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
It' speaks volumes to how cold your heart is.
I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
You truly are naive. This country was built on immigration.
The "parasitic horde" is likely why your house was built, you ditches were dug you food is affordable.
This country was built on the backs of slaves and immigrants.
It's astounding how ungreatful you are for your position in life.
But why am I not surprised. Many from your political wing believe that they themselves, through no help from anyone has done everything themselves.
Legal immigration is just something you can't grasp. I guessing your clan all came illegally.
Legal immigration.
That's just a phrase that conservatives hide behind. They claim that have no problem with legal immigration but they do nothing to improve it.
Just build the wall they say.
First we must secure the border and then we will reform legal immigration.
Give me a ******* break.
It's like their damn tax reform. Give all the tax breaks to the rich and they will eventually pass it on to the poor.
That's like giving all your candy on Halloween to one kid and telling him to share with all his friends.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 04:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 04:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
(11-28-2017 03:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote: People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
It' speaks volumes to how cold your heart is.
I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
You truly are naive. This country was built on immigration.
The "parasitic horde" is likely why your house was built, you ditches were dug you food is affordable.
This country was built on the backs of slaves and immigrants.
It's astounding how ungreatful you are for your position in life.
But why am I not surprised. Many from your political wing believe that they themselves, through no help from anyone has done everything themselves.
Legal immigration is just something you can't grasp. I guessing your clan all came illegally.
Legal immigration.
That's just a phrase that conservatives hide behind. They claim that have no problem with legal immigration but they do nothing to improve it.
Just build the wall they say.
First we must secure the border and then we will reform legal immigration.
Give me a ******* break.
It's like their damn tax reform. Give all the tax breaks to the rich and they will eventually pass it on to the poor.
That's like giving all your candy on Halloween to one kid and telling him to share with all his friends.
Like that is ever going to happen.
Dude you are going open border insane, stay off of the Tequila.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 03:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Perhaps if all the young people weren't on meth, they wouldn't have to hire "ilegal aliens".
If people in your town were willing to work as hard as "illegal aliens" do maybe you wouldn't have that problem.
Supply and demand.
My town is booming. My county is one of the fastest growing in the state. Our town and county law enforcement is top notch and tends to eradicate problems before they become widespread. There isn't a meth problem here. Besides, the small towns I'm referring to are predominantly black being as they are in the Corridor of Shame and meth isn't a drug of choice among the blacks in these parts.
And as I covered many, many times before people are willing to work as hard as illegals. They just want to be paid a living wage to do so and aren't willing to live 15 deep in a singlewide trailer with no running water and stealing electricity from the neighbors like the illegals do. They'd like to go home in the evenings instead of going around all night stealing copper wire out of other people's buildings or stealing farm gates to sell as scrap metal. Or like what happened to the property owner of our hunt club property....illegals were stealing his pine straw.
People who are living under desperate conditions will do desperate things in order to survive. Unfortunately, some of them will do illegal things.
Many of them however just want a chance.
It is truly unfortunate that so many in the areas you live in care only about how it hurts their bottom line and ignore the fact that these are living, breathing, human being.
You can't even call them anything other than "illegals"
It' speaks volumes to how cold your heart is.
I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
You truly are naive. This country was built on immigration.
The "parasitic horde" is likely why your house was built, you ditches were dug you food is affordable.
This country was built on the backs of slaves and immigrants.
It's astounding how ungreatful you are for your position in life.
But why am I not surprised. Many from your political wing believe that they themselves, through no help from anyone has done everything themselves.
My house was built by a construction company that was owned by a black man and went out of business because they couldn't build houses as cheap as the companies that hired illegals. He's a well respected man in this area because of his honesty
and integrity so he sold out his business rather than sell out his principles.
I would rather pay more and know my money was going to Americans rather than being wired back to the shitholes south of our border.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-27-2017 09:42 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
(11-27-2017 09:05 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: I don't doubt your conclusion, but the halving of the black demographic could also be largely attributed to general population dilution due to the explosion of Hispanics living in California.
One factor to consider when looking at where companies are headquartered has to do with their business model and how they incorporate the young into their workforce. As Peter Zeihan points out, Millennials are the largest generation in American history as a percentage of the population - that means there's a glut of twenty and early thirty-somethings eager to live in big cities with all of the amenities; that also means there's plenty willing to work for companies eager for cheap labor. My employer was based in suburban Chicago but is now in the Loop because they wanted to cut costs and it was impossible to do so unless they dramatically shifted away from Boomers and Gen X'ers, which is very difficult to implement when you force them to commute an hour or live in the burbs. If workers at corporate want to leave as they age and improve their quality of life if they have families, they have to either drive for an hour and/or leave, which opens up more spots for younger workers to come in and feed the management strategy. Local economic policy varies in its potential effect on the company; far left environmental regulations would affect us very little since it's a white collar office, but a city earnings tax (see St. Louis) would a great deal.
Every single office space transaction is unique based on a wide range of factors.
In the really large cities most employees still have a significant commute. I bet in your office many employees still have a serious commute. They all don't live in the Loop or River North.
You guys are not going to beat me on this, I do this for a living LOL.
While the current development cycle for office space has concentrated heavily on Central Business Districts (CBDs) in places like Chicago, Los Angeles and Seattle, Walter Page, research director at commercial real estate data provider CoStar Group, expects that tide to change as Millennials grow older, have families and migrate to the comforts of suburbia. It’s worth noting that the oldest Millennials are already in their mid-30s.
Marshall says some employers are hiring consultants and commissioning studies to help determine what their workforces will look like in the near future. As a result, office tenants are looking at labor forecasts as a consideration in leasing decisions, alongside rental rates and tenant improvement allowances, he notes.
“Tenants are looking to capture an outsized portion of the labor force when it comes to qualified and skilled labor. Conversely, landlords are looking to capture an outsized amount of those tenants,” Marshall says. “So this is a game of strategy with each other.”
In addition to the Millennial factor, CBRE envisions steep rental rates and strained supply in downtown office submarkets will push more tenants toward suburbia, which has experienced continuous gains in the office market
In many CBD's obsolete office buildings have been converted to residential and hotels. If not for Great American Tower in Cincy there would be less office space than 15 years ago in the CBD. Usually CBD office space is more expensive than burbs. http://www.nreionline.com/office/do-offi...omplicated
Chicago's population is about 2.7 Million, and more than 7 Million outside of the city in Chicagoland.
I don't disagree with you, my anecdote is basically a simple case study to illustrate that there are more factors at play than solely local politics when it comes to corporate relocations (which is basically what you said in the first sentence). Of course there are plenty of company workers who live outside of Chicago city limits and commute in, but it basically means you have to take the Metra (commuter rail, which isn't very convenient unless you live close to a stop that takes you to Millennium Station) or drive (and pay for parking), the latter of which means you either have to leave at 6 AM or sit in two of the top ten gridlocked rush hour interstates in the US. Most people as a result take the L or express bus from the northern neighborhoods since we're close to the red line, but I digress.
Either way, I agree with the premise of the article. Policies have consequences, and a progressive economic agenda in core urban areas over the course of generations have really drained most of them of their vitality except for certain sections of town that are seen as the hip place to be. That places the middle class in a bind where they can't afford to live in the Lincoln Parks of the world and send their kids to private school, nor do they want to live in the 'affordable' parts of town like Englewood and face legitimate threats and low quality of life every day. It's a modern Tale of Two Cities, and I can't blame people who move out for a little bit of land, good schools, and safe neighborhoods for their families.
RE: Left wing politics drive middle class out of cities
(11-28-2017 03:53 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(11-28-2017 02:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote: I care about American citizens, not the parasitic horde coming in from other countries destroying the quality of life of my country while providing little to no benefit.
and not speaking English
Too damn bad if you don't like hearing Spanish.
1) The First Amendment doesn't specify a language
2) There is no official language in this country
3) Some states have official languages. Three of them are officially bilingual.
4) For millions of Americans, they didn't cross any border, but rather the border crossed them when the USA took the SW from Mexico. Their forebears were on the land before your family came across the pond.
5) Puerto Ricans were colonized by the USA. To damn bad that you think you made a mistake 120 years later. They're fully American and they don't speak English. Nor do they need to
6) The history of the USA includes that of white people from a European heritage, but also equally includes those that don't come from that background.
So "Marque 1 para Espanol...Press 2 for English" is here to stay. Disfrutelo!
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In response to the term 'parasitic horde", that can most accurately describe the Europeans, who most certainly carried diseases that nearly wiped out the original population. A sad statement about our original history was made by Apartheid era South Africans who responded to complaints about their racist treatment of African natives...."At least we didn't kill off our natives"....
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2017 07:56 PM by Tom in Lazybrook.)
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