I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

(11-23-2017 02:37 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 01:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Put quo in charge.

In charge of what?

He thinks he’s smarter than Aresco. Would get him off these boards for awhile

Lets hope not, the P5 commissioners and CFP committee members wouldn't need toilet paper anymore.

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Let's not get carried away. So far, the P5 victories racked by UCF, USF, and Memphis this year have been over Illinois, Maryland, and UCLA

(11-23-2017 01:33 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 01:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 06:47 AM)otown Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:55 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Lot of bluster from Aresco as usual. He is fighting an up hill battle. Not sure there is anything he can do, but I do think this, combined with a USF win, ensures they will be ranked.

Yes, its called a commissioner actually doing his job and trying to pump up the conference. I know its strange to a member of the G4 conference where you don't hear a peep out of their commissioner.

3-2-1 until our resident stops by to give his take on Aresco's salary

You do realize that someone making 1/3 of what Aresco makes could make the same talking points, right?

I mean, about twenty people said the same thing before Aresco did on this forum alone, and they did it for free.

And again, what would you do? Fire the guy? Cut his pay? What kind of candidate would that attract as a replacement with such a precedent? His contract is what it is and it isn’t changing. Let it go.

In a regular organization, like the AAC administration, you don't pay a person, you pay a position. And that pay is based on the value-added of the position to the organization.

The position of AAC Commissioner is worth about $500k a year. That's true whether Aresco is filling the position, or Jim Delany or Mike Slive or Barrack Obama.

So yes, Aresco's pay should be far less than it is, but it's not personal.

(11-23-2017 04:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Let's not get carried away. So far, the P5 victories racked by UCF, USF, and Memphis this year have been over Illinois, Maryland, and UCLA

LOL... You hilarious... But than again I'm not surprised by your continue nonsense.

(11-23-2017 04:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 01:33 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 01:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 06:47 AM)otown Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:55 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Lot of bluster from Aresco as usual. He is fighting an up hill battle. Not sure there is anything he can do, but I do think this, combined with a USF win, ensures they will be ranked.

Yes, its called a commissioner actually doing his job and trying to pump up the conference. I know its strange to a member of the G4 conference where you don't hear a peep out of their commissioner.

3-2-1 until our resident stops by to give his take on Aresco's salary

You do realize that someone making 1/3 of what Aresco makes could make the same talking points, right?

I mean, about twenty people said the same thing before Aresco did on this forum alone, and they did it for free.

And again, what would you do? Fire the guy? Cut his pay? What kind of candidate would that attract as a replacement with such a precedent? His contract is what it is and it isn’t changing. Let it go.

In a regular organization, like the AAC administration, you don't pay a person, you pay a position. And that pay is based on the value-added of the position to the organization.

The position of AAC Commissioner is worth about $500k a year. That's true whether Aresco is filling the position, or Jim Delany or Mike Slive or Barrack Obama.

So yes, Aresco's pay should be far less than it is, but it's not personal.

When you're in charge of putting together the next commissioner's compensation package you can set the salary at $500k. Until then Aresco's contract is in place and it's not going to change.

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

(11-23-2017 05:07 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 04:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Let's not get carried away. So far, the P5 victories racked by UCF, USF, and Memphis this year have been over Illinois, Maryland, and UCLA

LOL... You hilarious... But than again I'm not surprised by your continue nonsense.

You missed his diatribe on the realignment board. He created a cult fantasy science of making excuses that any G5 win over a P5 in an access bowl isn't because the G5 team was better than the P5 team.

Quo is a troll or is a person on the spectrum

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Read my post again... Let it sink in... Give it a minute or two... LOL

(11-23-2017 06:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Read my post again... Let it sink in... Give it a minute or two... LOL

No, I read it. You said that many AAC programs continue to rack up wins against blue bloods. I pointed out that the AAC is 4-15 against the P5 this year, and none of those wins are against 'blue bloods' and none have winning records.

Not sure what "many programs" you are referencing, and what many wins. Houston's wins were nice, definitely. Navy beat ND for the first time in decades, and Ole Miss got a win over Ole Miss two years ago. Anything I missed?

(11-23-2017 07:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 06:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Read my post again... Let it sink in... Give it a minute or two... LOL

No, I read it. You said that many AAC programs continue to rack up wins against blue bloods. I pointed out that the AAC is 4-15 against the P5 this year, and none of those wins are against 'blue bloods' and none have winning records.

Not sure what "many programs" you are referencing, and what many wins. Houston's wins were nice, definitely. Navy beat ND for the first time in decades, and Ole Miss got a win over Ole Miss two years ago. Anything I missed?

Six years, decades, whatever.
Conveniently downplaying Houston's success in '15 and '16
Fanhood gonna fanhood

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Wrong yet again. Arizona is 7-4. That’s a “winning record” I believe.

(11-23-2017 08:31 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 07:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 06:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Read my post again... Let it sink in... Give it a minute or two... LOL

No, I read it. You said that many AAC programs continue to rack up wins against blue bloods. I pointed out that the AAC is 4-15 against the P5 this year, and none of those wins are against 'blue bloods' and none have winning records.

Not sure what "many programs" you are referencing, and what many wins. Houston's wins were nice, definitely. Navy beat ND for the first time in decades, and Ole Miss got a win over Ole Miss two years ago. Anything I missed?

Six years, decades, whatever.
Conveniently downplaying Houston's success in '15 and '16
Fanhood gonna fanhood

Yes... Fan hood gonna fan hood as usual.

He now has an interview on espn's first page
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...conference

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco says league is being disrespected by Playoff selection committee

Mike Aresco has gone full Rodney Dangerfield.

The AAC commissioner made the rounds with several national media folks on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after seeing a three-loss Mississippi State team jump the conference standard-barer Central Florida in the latest College Football Playoff Selection Committee’s Top 25 rankings. Not only is the American commish claiming that the Knights aren’t getting a “fair shake” by the committee as part of the disrespect shown toward his league, he’s also not happy that one-loss South Florida isn’t even making the cut for the top 25.

“I just don’t think our league is garnering the respect it deserves, period… I feel strongly about it. The evidence is in,” Aresco told ESPN. “We’ve tried to prove for five years how good our conference is. What do we have to do is my question, to prove that we’re a really good league, especially at the top? I just don’t like the notion that, well, strength of schedule, I don’t like to see UCF behind three- and two-loss teams, and I think they can play with anyone. I just don’t know what more we can do.”

Aresco later expanded on his comments and said UCF should be in the top 10 and ahead of two-loss teams like Ohio State.

The fact that Aresco is sticking up for his league and his teams are no surprise but the public way he is going about criticizing the selection committee is a much different tack than previously employed. The AAC remains all but a lock to secure the annual Group of Five bid, which should go to the conference champion among No. 15 UCF, No. 20 Memphis or unranked USF (which would have a chance to beat both of the others in the next two weeks).

CFP executive director Bill Hancock issued a very generic statement in response to Aresco’s comments but his latest salvos should make for some interesting questions next Tuesday when chairman Kirby Hocutt goes in front of the cameras to explain the next set of rankings.

(11-23-2017 10:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Wrong yet again. Arizona is 7-4. That’s a “winning record” I believe.

Oh sorry. One.

I'm not making outlandish statements here. Houston has some P5 wins, as does Memphis. Navy has thebulset over ND. What other 'blue bloods' victories have been racked up.

For the record, I really like the Houston program, and think Major is going to do well there. However, manybhwre seemnto think the sky is falling regarding the program. What is it?

(11-24-2017 07:38 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 10:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 05:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Define the word "many" and the term "rack up." Not trying to split hairs, but the AAC is 4-14 against the P5 this year, and not one of those wins is over a team with a winning record.

Wrong yet again. Arizona is 7-4. That’s a “winning record” I believe.

Oh sorry. One.

I'm not making outlandish statements here. Houston has some P5 wins, as does Memphis. Navy has thebulset over ND. What other 'blue bloods' victories have been racked up.

For the record, I really like the Houston program, and think Major is going to do well there. However, manybhwre seemnto think the sky is falling regarding the program. What is it?

I just think a lot of people (self included) bought into the Kyle Allen hype. We thought it'd be a seamless transition from Ward to Allen- which in hindsight is pretty dumb. Same thing happened after Keenum, except it was injuries that derailed our starting QB that year rather than general ineptitude. We still lost some games this year that we probably shouldn't have but I've just decided to consider it a transition year. Applewhite will be back next year and hopefully with the QB issue solved the team can begin to progress.

(11-23-2017 05:07 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 04:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 02:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've been saying over over and over again, the AAC has build itself into one solid strong stout conference.

Many AAC programs continue to rack victories over blue blod schools and yet the AAC isnt good enough, absolutely total BS.

This league deserves better bowls and a better tv $$$ deal, period.

Let's not get carried away. So far, the P5 victories racked by UCF, USF, and Memphis this year have been over Illinois, Maryland, and UCLA

LOL... You hilarious... But than again I'm not surprised by your continue nonsense.

Well, except for the fact that what i said was, in fact, a fact. Contrary to your fluffy nonsense.

BigH gonna BigH, LOL.

(11-23-2017 09:36 AM)FonzKnight Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 06:46 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 10:19 PM)st932253 Wrote:  The point should be made that in 2017 we are all still paying for Judy Genshaft destroying the Big East.

How did the USF president destroy the Big East? Adding schools, and the empty promise of an increased TV contract killed the Big East. Why is Judy blamed?

ESPN had a deal in place with the Big East at 10 mil/ per team, contingent on the league adding TCU and UCF as its ninth and tenth members. Genshaft did everything she could to block the deal, not wanting UCF to be on the same level as USF conference-wise. Enough ADs sided with her (killing the tv deal) which pissed off schools like Pitt enough to leave for greener pastures.

Let's accept that USF and Genschaft blocked UCF. But having UCF in the league wouldn't have done squat to prevent what happened in 2011. The ACC was terrified of an SEC raid (the SEC was making I think $17M per school, the ACC $12M). The Big 12, after losing NEbraska and Colorado, actually floated the ridiculous idea of raiding for Arkansas, Pitt, Notre Dame and Air Force. Talk was rampant of 4 16 team superconferences, and nobody thought the Big EAst would be one of them.

The ACC offered Pitt and Syracuse with a 24 hour response window, with the threat that they would move on to other Big East schools--so if not Pitt and/or Syracuse, then UConn and/or Rutgers, and if not them than WVU. (Can't google up a source, sorry.)

Do you really think Pitt's going to say "Look Swofford, we got the UCF Golden Knights now. You can take your offer and shove it"?

As for turning down the media deal, "Pitt and Georgetown led the charge against the media deal." http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story...landscape. There was a vote to continue negotiating on the proposal with (if I recall correctly--the article I'm linking indicates otherwise) 12 in favor, 4 opposed including Pitt and Georgetown. (Georgetown is a key player, because Georgetown's chairman of the Board of Directors is and was former NFL Commissioner PAul Tagliabue.) Then the PAC-12 deal was signed, and the presidents voted UNANIMOUSLY to deep-six the ESPN offer and go on the open market in 2012.

(11-23-2017 12:52 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  Nope Boise was never in the discussion until after schools started defecting. The TCU/UCF deal would’ve kept the old Big East together and preempted all of it. Alas.

The TCU/UCF deal would have preempted nothing. If the ACC couldn't keep MAryland from jumping to the Big 10, nothing was going to keep Pitt and Syracuse from jumping to the ACC.