(11-20-2017 12:38 PM)Bronc33 Wrote:  I think we have a better chance than many are giving us credit for. Toledo is very bad against the run, and Goddard actually looked decent against you guys. If he improves between games and we can run on Toledo, I think we win it. We're not doing it unless you beat CMU though, I don't want them to claim a division championship... ugh.

I agree with Bronc33, this is a winnable game for WMU. The strength of WMU is Toledo's weakness as evidenced by the Ohio game. Goddard just needs to keep the defense honest. Also, WMU's defense has to stop the big plays. The other intangible is WMU is playing to solidify a bowl game.

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(11-19-2017 08:32 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:24 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 05:14 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  As a side note, since 2010 NIU's record against the rest of the MAC is 51-5 in the regular season. During that same time frame, NIU is 3-4 against CMU.

WOW: that is an amazing stat....what is NIU's all time series record vrs CHIPDIPS? This goes way back to college division play for both programs....

NIU 23 CMU 28 1 tie

That is an amazing record but the overall record against CMU having an edge doesnt surprise me knowing how NIU struggled for so many decades. Maybe the only team NIU has a winning record against is EMU? Where are those stats?

http://www.winsipedia.com/northern-illinois

NIU vs.

MAC 182-160-5
Buffalo 11-1-0
Kent State 21-7-0
Eastern Michigan 32-14-2
Akron 9-5-0
Ball State 23-20-2
Miami (OH) 9-8-0
Ohio 11-10-0
Bowling Green 10-12-0
Central Michigan 23-28-1
Western Michigan 19-24-0
Toledo 14-31-0

(11-19-2017 05:14 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  As a side note, since 2010 NIU's record against the rest of the MAC is 51-5 in the regular season. During that same time frame, NIU is 3-4 against CMU.

51-5 can't be right with 4 losses to CMU. We have lost the last two to Turd and to WMU last year.

(11-20-2017 08:27 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 05:14 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  As a side note, since 2010 NIU's record against the rest of the MAC is 51-5 in the regular season. During that same time frame, NIU is 3-4 against CMU.

51-5 can't be right with 4 losses to CMU. We have lost the last two to Turd and to WMU last year.

The 5 losses don't include CMU.

(11-19-2017 05:14 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  As a side note, since 2010 NIU's record against the rest of the MAC is 51-5 in the regular season. During that same time frame, NIU is 3-4 against CMU.

Is this where we Fire Carey? I’m just wondering where we fire carey? Maybe it’s his record vs the Big Ten that no one likes...i’ll Check on that tomorrow, I bet it’s terrible

(11-20-2017 07:14 PM)Max Power Wrote:  http://www.winsipedia.com/northern-illinois

NIU vs.

MAC 182-160-5
Buffalo 11-1-0
Kent State 21-7-0
Eastern Michigan 32-14-2
Akron 9-5-0
Ball State 23-20-2
Miami (OH) 9-8-0
Ohio 11-10-0
Bowling Green 10-12-0
Central Michigan 23-28-1
Western Michigan 19-24-0
Toledo 14-31-0

Orange Bowl.

(11-21-2017 10:35 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:14 PM)Max Power Wrote:  http://www.winsipedia.com/northern-illinois

NIU vs.

MAC 182-160-5
Buffalo 11-1-0
Kent State 21-7-0
Eastern Michigan 32-14-2
Akron 9-5-0
Ball State 23-20-2
Miami (OH) 9-8-0
Ohio 11-10-0
Bowling Green 10-12-0
Central Michigan 23-28-1
Western Michigan 19-24-0
Toledo 14-31-0

14 years since Turdledo has won the MAC west. Keep those moral victories going.

Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

(11-21-2017 11:39 PM)7 Wrote:  Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

No. Rocket fans are focused on WMU.

(11-22-2017 12:57 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:39 PM)7 Wrote:  Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

No. Rocket fans are focused on WMU.

Ah fan focus...the ultimate x factor

(11-21-2017 11:32 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Orange Bowl.

Yea, and your athletic department laid a giant "turd" ,as you say, marketing the program afterward. You guys certainly have the designation of what I see as an epic failure to continue momentum with fans.

(11-21-2017 11:39 PM)7 Wrote:  Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

Are you serious? There is no chance any other MAC fan base focuses so much on another team then NIU fans of Toledo. I have never heard of one NIU fan ever having a bad experience at our games or with our fans but the naming calling and hating of Toledo has gone on for years. You just dont see Toledo putting up NIU threads on our board. Its the strangest thing I have ever seen. Yes, we give BGSU a hard time, but thats about it.

(11-22-2017 07:08 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:32 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Orange Bowl.

Yea, and your athletic department laid a giant "turd" ,as you say, marketing the program afterward. You guys certainly have the designation of what I see as an epic failure to continue momentum with fans.

True. It's like they all went on vacation for months after the Orange Bowl.

(11-22-2017 07:11 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:39 PM)7 Wrote:  Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

Are you serious? There is no chance any other MAC fan base focuses so much on another team then NIU fans of Toledo. I have never heard of one NIU fan ever having a bad experience at our games or with our fans but the naming calling and hating of Toledo has gone on for years. You just dont see Toledo putting up NIU threads on our board. Its the strangest thing I have ever seen. Yes, we give BGSU a hard time, but thats about it.

And yet here you are, posting on our board

(11-22-2017 12:57 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:39 PM)7 Wrote:  Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

No. Rocket fans are focused on WMU.

That’s going to be key for your game on Friday lol

(11-22-2017 09:17 AM)7 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:57 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:39 PM)7 Wrote:  Fairly sure Toledo fans care more amount NIU than NIU does toledo right now

No. Rocket fans are focused on WMU.

That’s going to be key for your game on Friday lol

No, Thanksgiving leftovers.

(11-22-2017 08:15 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:08 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:32 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Orange Bowl.

Yea, and your athletic department laid a giant "turd" ,as you say, marketing the program afterward. You guys certainly have the designation of what I see as an epic failure to continue momentum with fans.

True. It's like they all went on vacation for months after the Orange Bowl.

What were they supposed to do? Football is a very "what have you done lately" business. The Orange Bowl put us on the map, but it's fading away in the rear view mirror. Winning against the P5 teams gives credibility. Credit to the staff for the 2018 OOC schedule. It may be tough, but it gives more gravitas than opening up against Presbyterian.

Had we done back-to-back BCS Bowls we would have taken a major step forward, but we wet the bed in the MACC against BGSU.

(11-22-2017 10:10 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 08:15 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 07:08 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:32 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Orange Bowl.

Yea, and your athletic department laid a giant "turd" ,as you say, marketing the program afterward. You guys certainly have the designation of what I see as an epic failure to continue momentum with fans.

True. It's like they all went on vacation for months after the Orange Bowl.

What were they supposed to do? Football is a very "what have you done lately" business. The Orange Bowl put us on the map, but it's fading away in the rear view mirror. Winning against the P5 teams gives credibility. Credit to the staff for the 2018 OOC schedule. It may be tough, but it gives more gravitas than opening up against Presbyterian.

Had we done back-to-back BCS Bowls we would have taken a major step forward, but we wet the bed in the MACC against BGSU.

Oh, maybe some marketing to keep the sizzle going and increase season ticket sales? Immediately after the OB was the time to market like crazy. There was nothing. Not a peep.