(11-06-2017 04:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:10 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  He was antifa. That I can tell you.

Who if anyone is reporting that?


Why isn't Fox News reporting it?

Because there is no evidence outside of fake images being posted around the internet.

Where is the evidence the images are fake?

I don't think the picture is fake but I do question whether or not the shooter is in that picture.

I don't think anyone is saying that he is IN the picture. I think what some are saying is he wore the uniform. HERE is what the uniform looks like. If someone strings up a black guy in a tree while said someone is wearing a white sheet and white hood, are you really gonna make a distinction about weather or not his Clan membership dues are paid up?

(11-06-2017 04:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Who if anyone is reporting that?


Why isn't Fox News reporting it?

Because there is no evidence outside of fake images being posted around the internet.

Where is the evidence the images are fake?

I don't think the picture is fake but I do question whether or not the shooter is in that picture.

I don't think anyone is saying that he is IN the picture. I think what some are saying is he wore the uniform. HERE is what the uniform looks like. If someone strings up a black guy in a tree while said someone is wearing a white sheet and white hood, are you really gonna make a distinction about weather or not his Clan membership dues are paid up?

Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

(11-06-2017 04:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Because there is no evidence outside of fake images being posted around the internet.

Where is the evidence the images are fake?

I don't think the picture is fake but I do question whether or not the shooter is in that picture.

I don't think anyone is saying that he is IN the picture. I think what some are saying is he wore the uniform. HERE is what the uniform looks like. If someone strings up a black guy in a tree while said someone is wearing a white sheet and white hood, are you really gonna make a distinction about weather or not his Clan membership dues are paid up?

Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

(11-06-2017 04:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Where is the evidence the images are fake?

I don't think the picture is fake but I do question whether or not the shooter is in that picture.

I don't think anyone is saying that he is IN the picture. I think what some are saying is he wore the uniform. HERE is what the uniform looks like. If someone strings up a black guy in a tree while said someone is wearing a white sheet and white hood, are you really gonna make a distinction about weather or not his Clan membership dues are paid up?

Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

These are sad times indeed.

(11-06-2017 04:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't think the picture is fake but I do question whether or not the shooter is in that picture.

I don't think anyone is saying that he is IN the picture. I think what some are saying is he wore the uniform. HERE is what the uniform looks like. If someone strings up a black guy in a tree while said someone is wearing a white sheet and white hood, are you really gonna make a distinction about weather or not his Clan membership dues are paid up?

Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

These are sad times indeed.

Trust but verify.

(11-06-2017 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I don't think anyone is saying that he is IN the picture. I think what some are saying is he wore the uniform. HERE is what the uniform looks like. If someone strings up a black guy in a tree while said someone is wearing a white sheet and white hood, are you really gonna make a distinction about weather or not his Clan membership dues are paid up?

Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

These are sad times indeed.

Trust but verify.

It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

These are sad times indeed.

Trust but verify.

It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

8 years of Obama

(11-06-2017 05:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

These are sad times indeed.

Trust but verify.

It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

8 years of Obama

No doubt about it.

The election of a half black president brought the racists out of from under their rocks.

Kind of a disjointed article. Looks like the editor was a 3rd grader, but lots of interesting information.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingn...spartanntp

The NY terrorist attack, which didn't involve guns and did involve a Muslim terrorist sure disappeared from the MSM news quickly.

(11-06-2017 05:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  These are sad times indeed.

Trust but verify.

It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

8 years of Obama

No doubt about it.

The election of a half black president brought the racists out of from under their rocks.

Couple that with his concerted efforts do divide along racial lines.

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Of course not but just because someone was wearing black with a skull mask doesn't mean they were Antif either.

I pass at least two or three bikers a day that fit this discription.

Should I assume that they are all Antifa also?

For your safety? Yes.

#beawareofyoursurroundings

These are sad times indeed.

Trust but verify.

It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

Oh, all of you f*cking stop with this hyperbolic nonsense. Step outside, and away from the TV. People are people, we're still here doing fine, and the apocalypse hasn't come. We're still safer than we were in the past for christs sake, everyone here needs to stop assuming any news portrays an accurate measurement of actual crime/discord/division.

(11-06-2017 01:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 01:00 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 11:37 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 11:13 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 10:58 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  No athiests in foxholes nor on deathbeds. Just a trendy hipster thing to be. Doesn't require much thought to follow the herd.

My best friend's father was an atheist, even on his deathbed from cancer, and refused all forms of religious rites to the very end. He also wanted no religious symbols on his gravestone (buried at Arlington).

He grew up in rural South Dakota, studied Mech. Eng. at School of Mines, was drafted and flew helicopters in the Vietnam War, started various businesses and became self-made, and built his own house (literally designed it, laid the foundation, and built it with his hands)...which his family still enjoys today.

Literally one of the smartest men I ever knew...very close to a second father.

Its just something people say that makes their beliefs feel more justified, I sincerely doubt there is any quantitative data showing this is true. The reality is, most atheists would love nothing more than to believe there is a higher power, and a real cosmic meaning to life. They just see no evidence that is the case, and are intellectually honest enough to admit it instead of just playing along "just in case".

Actually, there is very good evidence suggesting there is a supernatural being.

It comes down to a personal decision: do I or don't I believe.

What evidence would that be?

Jesus is evidence of a loving God.

(11-06-2017 05:34 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Trust but verify.

It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

8 years of Obama

No doubt about it.

The election of a half black president brought the racists out of from under their rocks.

Couple that with his concerted efforts do divide along racial lines.

Do you think Obama or Trump has done more to explicitly stoke the flames of racism?

(11-06-2017 09:33 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:34 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

8 years of Obama

No doubt about it.

The election of a half black president brought the racists out of from under their rocks.

Couple that with his concerted efforts do divide along racial lines.

Do you think Obama or Trump has done more to explicitly stoke the flames of racism?

Obama. Definitely. But neither has even come anywhere close to hollywood and the MSM.

“This was not racially motivated, it wasn’t over religious beliefs,” Freeman Martin, a regional director with the Texas Department of Public Safety, said at a news briefing Monday. “There was a domestic situation going on within the family and the in-laws.”

(11-06-2017 10:48 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  “This was not racially motivated, it wasn’t over religious beliefs,” Freeman Martin, a regional director with the Texas Department of Public Safety, said at a news briefing Monday. “There was a domestic situation going on within the family and the in-laws.”

Just because

Quote: “There was a domestic situation going on within the family and the in-laws.”

Does not preclude the nature of the "situation" being

Quote: "...over religious [and/or political] beliefs,”

Just an observation....

(11-06-2017 04:24 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 04:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 03:58 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  It's an unsourced, anonymous post on 4chan. That's what counts as legitimate information around here.

No one cares what you think. We're free to speculate, doesn't mean we believe one of those guys is the shooter or they have any connection whatsoever.

Except that is exactly why you posted it, and how others are using to justify believing exactly that.

From what could be a years old Halloween picture?

Uhhhhh, no.

Tossing schit around, kicking ideas and different “sources” no matter how far flung.

Why not? Don’t think anyone here is going to now run around talking like this is totally what’s going on.

But who knows? Can you tell us with any certainty what happened in Vegas? If Oswald acted alone? Who shot JR?

It’s called spitballing, relax.

(11-06-2017 10:48 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  “This was not racially motivated, it wasn’t over religious beliefs,” Freeman Martin, a regional director with the Texas Department of Public Safety, said at a news briefing Monday. “There was a domestic situation going on within the family and the in-laws.”

You seem desperate to believe that. There's a bridge I have to sell....

Domestic only events don't involve shooting up a whole church and not even getting the mother-in-law or wife. While that was my first thought, there is enough to know it almost certainly was more than that.

He was an over the top atheist on social media. Its pretty clear this was religious and the domestic simply provided the target and trigger.

(11-06-2017 09:33 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:34 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 05:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It has indeed come to that point. I am very close to arming myself and not trusting anyone anymore

We are no longer the United States.

8 years of Obama

No doubt about it.

The election of a half black president brought the racists out of from under their rocks.

Couple that with his concerted efforts do divide along racial lines.

Do you think Obama or Trump has done more to explicitly stoke the flames of racism?

For ****'s Sake.... It isn't even close. Obama spent 8 years sowing the seeds of racial division. Even CNN admitted that race relations worsened under Obama.


All the left claims Trump has done is say "there were some good people" on both sides of a protest over a Confederate statue.