Assuming Memphis wins out, they will likely be about 15th in polls.

Would rather USF run the table to get the AAC title game here and play vs. a lesser ranked team or hope UCF runs the table, becomes a top 10 team, and have Memphis get a top 10 scalp on the road in the AAC title game?

I'm guessing we'd rather have it here...but beating UCF and then a P5 team would likely get Memphis top 5 in the nation at the end of the year.

UCF rematch. We need another shot at those aholes. We take em down in a rematch

(10-29-2017 02:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  UCF rematch. We need another shot at those aholes. We take em down in a rematch

We absolutely didn't have our A game-or our current defense, for that game. Bring on the rematch.

Selfishly I want the extra home game and an easier shot to win the title. So USF

(10-29-2017 03:33 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Selfishly I want the extra home game and an easier shot to win the title. So USF

Me too

Easiest path possible to access bowl slot

(10-29-2017 03:33 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Selfishly I want the extra home game and an easier shot to win the title. So USF

Is that how the tie breaker works for hosting the CG?

MEM, USF and UCF all 7-1.
USF has head to head over UCF.

MEM hosts?

(10-30-2017 10:24 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 03:33 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Selfishly I want the extra home game and an easier shot to win the title. So USF

Is that how the tie breaker works for hosting the CG?

MEM, USF and UCF all 7-1.
USF has head to head over UCF.

MEM hosts?

If Memphis wins out, and USF wins out, then they both are in the CCG, and the home team is decided first by head-to-head (didn't play this year), then record (which would be the same), then poll ranking. If the CFP rankings come out roughly the same as the AP and Coaches polls, we will be ahead of USF, and if we both win out, we will maintain a ranking position ahead of them.

Is the record tie-breaker conference only or overall?

Because, we'd be 10-1 and USF would be 11-1, overall.

(10-30-2017 10:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Is the record tie-breaker conference only or overall?

Because, we'd be 10-1 and USF would be 11-1, overall.

By conference.

TieBreakers for home field advantage in the championship game:
http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/th...s_2016.pdf

Quote:FA - 5.2.1 CHAMPIONSHIP HOST TIE-BREAKER
The following tie-breaker procedure is used to determine the host location for the
American Athletic Conference Football Championship game:
1. Head to head result between tied teams;

2. If still tied, if one team was ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee
rankings and wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season, they will
be declared the host. If in that same scenario, the team that was the highest ranked
team in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings loses in the
final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite average of selected
computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) will be used
to determine the host.

3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the
highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular
season will be declared the host.

4. If none of the ranked teams win in the final weekend of the Conference regular
season, a composite average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester,
Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) after all games conclude the final weekend of the
Conference regular season will be used to determine the host;

5. If no teams are ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings
going into the final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite
average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and
Wolfe) after all games conclude the final weekend of the Conference regular
season will be used to determine the host;

6. Record against common Conference opponents;

7. If still tied, the team with the highest overall (Conference and non-conference
winning percentage [excluding exempt games] shall be the host;

8. If still tied, coin toss will be conducted by the Commissioner.

(10-30-2017 10:55 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  TieBreakers for home field advantage in the championship game:
http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/th...s_2016.pdf

Quote:FA - 5.2.1 CHAMPIONSHIP HOST TIE-BREAKER
The following tie-breaker procedure is used to determine the host location for the
American Athletic Conference Football Championship game:
1. Head to head result between tied teams;

2. If still tied, if one team was ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee
rankings and wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season, they will
be declared the host. If in that same scenario, the team that was the highest ranked
team in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings loses in the
final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite average of selected
computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) will be used
to determine the host.

3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the
highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular
season will be declared the host.

4. If none of the ranked teams win in the final weekend of the Conference regular
season, a composite average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester,
Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) after all games conclude the final weekend of the
Conference regular season will be used to determine the host;

5. If no teams are ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings
going into the final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite
average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and
Wolfe) after all games conclude the final weekend of the Conference regular
season will be used to determine the host;

6. Record against common Conference opponents;

7. If still tied, the team with the highest overall (Conference and non-conference
winning percentage [excluding exempt games] shall be the host;

8. If still tied, coin toss will be conducted by the Commissioner.

Wow, I was wrong. As far as hosting goes, it goes from head-to-head, straight to CFP ranking.

(10-29-2017 02:28 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Assuming Memphis wins out, they will likely be about 15th in polls.

Would rather USF run the table to get the AAC title game here and play vs. a lesser ranked team or hope UCF runs the table, becomes a top 10 team, and have Memphis get a top 10 scalp on the road in the AAC title game?

I'm guessing we'd rather have it here...but beating UCF and then a P5 team would likely get Memphis top 5 in the nation at the end of the year.

The same argument as pitching your ace in game 6 with 2 days rest or saving him for game 7 with 4 days rest. In this case, with the only data with UCF and USF being the whipping at UCF, I would much prefer the home game, which gives us much better odds and the NY6 game.

Playing at UCF gives us maybe a 25% shot at making the NY6 game and then we have to win it for a top 5 ranking. Playing at home against USF gives us maybe a 75% shot at making the NY6 game and maybe a top 5-10 ranking.

If we were Alabama, where the goal is a national championship, you take the road game. If you are Memphis, making the NY6 game at all costs is the top priority.

When you factor in that we will probably be looking at hiring a new coach; the difference between a top 5 ranking and a ranking in the low 20's and playing in a lower bowl against a P5 conference's 6th place finisher is too massive to risk.

(10-30-2017 11:00 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:55 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  TieBreakers for home field advantage in the championship game:
http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/th...s_2016.pdf

Quote:FA - 5.2.1 CHAMPIONSHIP HOST TIE-BREAKER
The following tie-breaker procedure is used to determine the host location for the
American Athletic Conference Football Championship game:
1. Head to head result between tied teams;

2. If still tied, if one team was ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee
rankings and wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season, they will
be declared the host. If in that same scenario, the team that was the highest ranked
team in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings loses in the
final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite average of selected
computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) will be used
to determine the host.

3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the
highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular
season will be declared the host.

4. If none of the ranked teams win in the final weekend of the Conference regular
season, a composite average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester,
Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) after all games conclude the final weekend of the
Conference regular season will be used to determine the host;

5. If no teams are ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings
going into the final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite
average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and
Wolfe) after all games conclude the final weekend of the Conference regular
season will be used to determine the host;

6. Record against common Conference opponents;

7. If still tied, the team with the highest overall (Conference and non-conference
winning percentage [excluding exempt games] shall be the host;

8. If still tied, coin toss will be conducted by the Commissioner.

Wow, I was wrong. As far as hosting goes, it goes from head-to-head, straight to CFP ranking.

That's only as a tie-breaker, which assumes the conference record is the same. Sorry... I neglected to paste the section header:

Quote:FA - 5.2 CHAMPIONSHIP HOST DETERMINATION
The Championship Game shall be played at the home venue of the Division Champion with highest
winning percentage in Conference games only.

(10-29-2017 02:28 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Assuming Memphis wins out, they will likely be about 15th in polls.

Would rather USF run the table to get the AAC title game here and play vs. a lesser ranked team or hope UCF runs the table, becomes a top 10 team, and have Memphis get a top 10 scalp on the road in the AAC title game?

I'm guessing we'd rather have it here...but beating UCF and then a P5 team would likely get Memphis top 5 in the nation at the end of the year.

I'd rather play USF at home than play UCF on the road because it would be fun to host the championship game and we'd have a better chance of winning.

(10-30-2017 11:02 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 02:28 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Assuming Memphis wins out, they will likely be about 15th in polls.

Would rather USF run the table to get the AAC title game here and play vs. a lesser ranked team or hope UCF runs the table, becomes a top 10 team, and have Memphis get a top 10 scalp on the road in the AAC title game?

I'm guessing we'd rather have it here...but beating UCF and then a P5 team would likely get Memphis top 5 in the nation at the end of the year.

I'd rather play USF at home than play UCF on the road because it would be fun to host the championship game and we'd have a better chance of winning.

I agree. I’ll take a home game over the rematch.

(10-30-2017 11:10 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:02 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 02:28 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Assuming Memphis wins out, they will likely be about 15th in polls.

Would rather USF run the table to get the AAC title game here and play vs. a lesser ranked team or hope UCF runs the table, becomes a top 10 team, and have Memphis get a top 10 scalp on the road in the AAC title game?

I'm guessing we'd rather have it here...but beating UCF and then a P5 team would likely get Memphis top 5 in the nation at the end of the year.

I'd rather play USF at home than play UCF on the road because it would be fun to host the championship game and we'd have a better chance of winning.

I agree. I’ll take a home game over the rematch.

That being said I think UCF beats USF and we end up with 10-1 Memphis at 11-0 UCF (assuming we do our part and win out). If that happens UCF will be ranked in the top 10 and we'll be ranked in the top 15. That would be fun too.

Is there a chance for anyone else besides UCF or USF to make the AAC title game from the East?

(10-30-2017 12:46 PM)jammaster Wrote:  Is there a chance for anyone else besides UCF or USF to make the AAC title game from the East?

Not really:

East
UCF 4-0
USF 4-1
UConn 2-3
Temple 1-3
ECU 1-3
Cincy 0-4

(10-30-2017 10:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Is the record tie-breaker conference only or overall?

Because, we'd be 10-1 and USF would be 11-1, overall.

Actually, USF had their game vs. UMass cancelled. They only have an 11 game schedule, too.

(10-30-2017 12:53 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Is the record tie-breaker conference only or overall?

Because, we'd be 10-1 and USF would be 11-1, overall.

Actually, USF had their game vs. UMass cancelled. They only have an 11 game schedule, too.

There is also a possibility that the committee could rank USF higher than us after a win over UCF, but that is unlikely because our current SOS is quite a bit higher than their current SOS.