(10-29-2017 02:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 12:45 AM)Kronke Wrote:  pesik got his swagger back

Brings a tear to my eye, I thought we'd lost him

He wasn't quite so feisty earlier in the USF game last night. I wanted Houston to win last night, but I forgot about this side effect.

against Tulane the Memphis defense 2 deep featured 3 seniors. the vast majority are Fr & Soph's plus all the guys we lost to injury will be back next season and actually the Memphis defense is getting better every week. at qb next season will be David Moore. remember that name. a guy that will have been in the system for 3 years, a red shirt soph, a 6-3 200 lb Greg Ward type who can actually throw the ball really well. the roster is well stocked for the next few seasons.

(10-29-2017 07:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

It will be interesting to see how they pick up the new Offense.

ECU built around a grad transfer? All I have heard throughout each game is "Player X, a freshman , made that tackle" and "Player Y , a sophomore, made that catch". I think we will be a 6-5 bowling team next year. Just saying...

They're talking some power five coaches are going to be fired so likely we lose a couple again happens almost every year this sucks

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(10-29-2017 10:12 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU built around a grad transfer? All I have heard throughout each game is "Player X, a freshman , made that tackle" and "Player Y , a sophomore, made that catch". I think we will be a 6-5 bowling team next year. Just saying...

Why would y'all only play 11 games?

(10-29-2017 09:57 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 07:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

It will be interesting to see how they pick up the new Offense.

I don't think we will have a new offense next year, my opinion Frost stays for year 3 and makes a run at the CCG with his guys and then he could leave knowing he left his legacy.
Coaching $ pool is going up by +$2M this off season by his request.

(10-29-2017 10:21 AM)Pouncer20 Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:12 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU built around a grad transfer? All I have heard throughout each game is "Player X, a freshman , made that tackle" and "Player Y , a sophomore, made that catch". I think we will be a 6-5 bowling team next year. Just saying...

Why would y'all only play 11 games?

Hurricanes, locust, The End Times, or my poor math skills....

(10-29-2017 10:12 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU built around a grad transfer? All I have heard throughout each game is "Player X, a freshman , made that tackle" and "Player Y , a sophomore, made that catch". I think we will be a 6-5 bowling team next year. Just saying...

your starting qb is a grad transfer leaving
100% of your starting WRs are graduating

ECUs strenght is in its offense...
ecu returns a lot on defense but your defense is one of the worst in the nation, returning a lot on what is horrible is a great sign

what your premise for seeing improvement in ecu ..besides ecu being king of the player hyping
Holton Ahlers could be good for ecu (if he signes) but are you expecting it as true freshmen?

(10-29-2017 09:42 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  against Tulane the Memphis defense 2 deep featured 3 seniors. the vast majority are Fr & Soph's plus all the guys we lost to injury will be back next season and actually the Memphis defense is getting better every week. at qb next season will be David Moore. remember that name. a guy that will have been in the system for 3 years, a red shirt soph, a 6-3 200 lb Greg Ward type who can actually throw the ball really well. the roster is well stocked for the next few seasons.

Yep but pesik doesn’t know that lol. We are loaded at WR and RB. Our O-Line still keeps the majority of the 2-deep. Whoever is the coach next year will probably employ the same concepts with different variations if we don’t have Norvell next year. Memphis has been building up depth these past couple of years since Fuente arrived

You just jinxed us. Bowling Green now gets the NY6 game.

What’s a Bowling Green?

(10-29-2017 10:35 AM)bignow Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:57 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 07:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

It will be interesting to see how they pick up the new Offense.

I don't think we will have a new offense next year, my opinion Frost stays for year 3 and makes a run at the CCG with his guys and then he could leave knowing he left his legacy.
Coaching $ pool is going up by +$2M this off season by his request.

It doesn't matter.. Herman was makimg 3 mil here and we offered to match whatever he was getting offered. It's about natiomal championships which in the AAC frost wont be able to be contending for

We will see it would be nice to have stability in the conference - hope Memphis and ucf get to keep them.

(10-28-2017 10:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  The nuanced observer will note all of this, and we "should" start the year with some T25 teams. But key to that is finishing this season strong, and I saw a couple of cracks today. UConn and USF. UConn because it would have been nice to at least look respectable against a 2-win SEC team, and USF because I fear they will be dropped out of the first rankings next Tuesday. Really, I wonder if the committee will just put UCF, Memphis, Toledo, and SDSU in at 21, 22, 23, and 24 respectively almost as a separate ranking (Like, just remove the 2 in front and that is the Access Spot ranking), TOTALLY disregarding our strength of conference schedules.
Our last hope is Navy beating ND. And the hope I'm speaking of is getting to the end of the season with 4 teams ranked so we can start the next year with some conference respect.

Finishing strong is definitely an issue in this conference. In recent history, it seems like any AAC coach who has a truly special year going tends to lose focus when intriguing job opportunities become available (I'm looking at you, Fuente and Herman).

I would like to see Memphis and UCF (both of whom are likely to lose head coaches after this year) play well through the end of their schedules, put on a slobber-knocker of a conference championship game, then win their damn bowl games.

(10-29-2017 10:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:12 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU built around a grad transfer? All I have heard throughout each game is "Player X, a freshman , made that tackle" and "Player Y , a sophomore, made that catch". I think we will be a 6-5 bowling team next year. Just saying...

your starting qb is a grad transfer leaving
100% of your starting WRs are graduating

ECUs strenght is in its offense...
ecu returns a lot on defense but your defense is one of the worst in the nation, returning a lot on what is horrible is a great sign

what your premise for seeing improvement in ecu ..besides ecu being king of the player hyping
Holton Ahlers could be good for ecu (if he signes) but are you expecting it as true freshmen?

After the last couple seasons we ECU fans have surely been humbled. Ahlers is really good and I'm confident he will sign here. He's from here, his dad is part of the program, and he's a Pirate to the core. By all accounts, he's the type of kid that looks at our state of affairs as more of an opportunity as opposed to a detriment. He will have a real chance to come in and start right away and I'm pulling for him to do so. It's no guarantee that he'll pan out but QB is obviously the most important position and all signs point to him being legit.

Obviously we will need to shore up both lines but I think we are already making some progress. I actually think our game this week @ UH (at TDECU stadium) will be telling as far as the trajectory of the program is concerned. A couple games ago I thought you guys were gonna slaughter us. Now I'm hopeful to at least be somewhat competitive. Even though BYU sucks this year, I thought we made substantial improvements. The younger players are buying in, making plays, and will be the backbone of the program moving forward. Other than Sirk the transfers haven't really panned out and Minshew actually played better than him against BYU. I think that is a blessing in disguise as we are getting our younger players crucial experience.

I am admittedly biased in hoping for ECU success but there have been plenty of times where ECU has surprised me in a positive way over the years. Moreover, I would like to think that the BYU game was the turning point towards building some momentum and confidence. I guess we'll learn more next saturday in a hostile environment against a quality program.

(10-29-2017 11:35 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:12 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU built around a grad transfer? All I have heard throughout each game is "Player X, a freshman , made that tackle" and "Player Y , a sophomore, made that catch". I think we will be a 6-5 bowling team next year. Just saying...

your starting qb is a grad transfer leaving
100% of your starting WRs are graduating

ECUs strenght is in its offense...
ecu returns a lot on defense but your defense is one of the worst in the nation, returning a lot on what is horrible is a great sign

what your premise for seeing improvement in ecu ..besides ecu being king of the player hyping
Holton Ahlers could be good for ecu (if he signes) but are you expecting it as true freshmen?

After the last couple seasons we ECU fans have surely been humbled. Ahlers is really good and I'm confident he will sign here. He's from here, his dad is part of the program, and he's a Pirate to the core. By all accounts, he's the type of kid that looks at our state of affairs as more of an opportunity as opposed to a detriment. He will have a real chance to come in and start right away and I'm pulling for him to do so. It's no guarantee that he'll pan out but QB is obviously the most important position and all signs point to him being legit.

Obviously we will need to shore up both lines but I think we are already making some progress. I actually think our game this week @ UH (at TDECU stadium) will be telling as far as the trajectory of the program is concerned. A couple games ago I thought you guys were gonna slaughter us. Now I'm hopeful to at least be somewhat competitive. Even though BYU sucks this year, I thought we made substantial improvements. The younger players are buying in, making plays, and will be the backbone of the program moving forward. Other than Sirk the transfers haven't really panned out and Minshew actually played better than him against BYU. I think that is a blessing in disguise as we are getting our younger players crucial experience.

I am admittedly biased in hoping for ECU success but there have been plenty of times where ECU has surprised me in a positive way over the years. Moreover, I would like to think that the BYU game was the turning point towards building some momentum and confidence. I guess we'll learn more next saturday in a hostile environment against a quality program.

ECU has always had the potential to be good. I could see it being a 4Q battle if you guys play to that potential - but it also could be a slaughter if UH takes the next step with king at QB if yall aren't prepared for it

(10-29-2017 09:42 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  against Tulane the Memphis defense 2 deep featured 3 seniors. the vast majority are Fr & Soph's plus all the guys we lost to injury will be back next season and actually the Memphis defense is getting better every week. at qb next season will be David Moore. remember that name. a guy that will have been in the system for 3 years, a red shirt soph, a 6-3 200 lb Greg Ward type who can actually throw the ball really well. the roster is well stocked for the next few seasons.

it was 4, but you're making a great point. We'll lose Avery, Cook, Shareef White and C. Johnson but get Gentry for sure and Dillon possibly back.

we have 1 senior in the 2 deep OL and Eze is a 4 star who's redshirting
Henderson, P. Taylor will both be returning + T. Taylor redshirting
Pollard, Pop, K Jones, Magnifico, Dykes, Coxie all return as pass catchers + Nick Robinson redshirting and possibly Craft back

Norvell or not, we will have some players.

Tulsa has to get some semblance of a defense before we compete in the league. We need to fire our Co-defensive coordinators

(10-29-2017 10:58 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:35 AM)bignow Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:57 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 07:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

It will be interesting to see how they pick up the new Offense.

I don't think we will have a new offense next year, my opinion Frost stays for year 3 and makes a run at the CCG with his guys and then he could leave knowing he left his legacy.
Coaching $ pool is going up by +$2M this off season by his request.

It doesn't matter.. Herman was makimg 3 mil here and we offered to match whatever he was getting offered. It's about natiomal championships which in the AAC frost wont be able to be contending for

We will see it would be nice to have stability in the conference - hope Memphis and ucf get to keep them.

There are some key differences between the Herman situation and the Frost situation. First, Frost played a lot of years in the NFL and doesn't live extravagantly. A lot of people who know him well (Dungy, Osborne) have publically said, money doesn't drive him.
For a texas coach, UT is the top of college football. You might assume UF is the same in FL, but it's not. UF has a lot of problems and on the very top is that their facilities suck.
This year probably more closely resembles UH's Peach bowl year, when Herman came back.

(10-30-2017 09:24 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:58 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 10:35 AM)bignow Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:57 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 07:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

It will be interesting to see how they pick up the new Offense.

I don't think we will have a new offense next year, my opinion Frost stays for year 3 and makes a run at the CCG with his guys and then he could leave knowing he left his legacy.
Coaching $ pool is going up by +$2M this off season by his request.

It doesn't matter.. Herman was makimg 3 mil here and we offered to match whatever he was getting offered. It's about natiomal championships which in the AAC frost wont be able to be contending for

We will see it would be nice to have stability in the conference - hope Memphis and ucf get to keep them.

There are some key differences between the Herman situation and the Frost situation. First, Frost played a lot of years in the NFL and doesn't live extravagantly. A lot of people who know him well (Dungy, Osborne) have publically said, money doesn't drive him.
For a texas coach, UT is the top of college football. You might assume UF is the same in FL, but it's not. UF has a lot of problems and on the very top is that their facilities suck.
This year probably more closely resembles UH's Peach bowl year, when Herman came back.

I hope Frost DOES stick around. UF stole McIlwain from the MWC. I hated to see that. He was doing good work there.
But Frost can play for a NCAA at UF.
If there were a REAL route, a REAL, all-inclusive CFP with each Conference's Champion represented, then I think the AAC and the MWC would lose far fewer coaches (and recruits).
It is hard to continually stay on top when you go through 3 or 4 coaches per decade.
The FL and TX schools will usually be pretty good due to local talent. But until you can tell the big name recruits that they are playing for a NC it is hard to get them.
Hell, even Baylor could say they have a chance.