It says here the state of Massachusetts is considering moving to Atlantic Time Zone of the maritime providences.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-ma...2017-10-27

If true UMass could bring that coveted additional time zone AAC fans are looking for.

So this means UMass can kick off at 11 AM Atlantic Time/10 AM Eastern Time as the front end of a quadruple header.

there aren't more pressing issues for them to address? what a waste of.... wait for it... TIME!

(10-27-2017 06:35 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  It says here the state of Massachusetts is considering moving to Atlantic Time Zone of the maritime providences.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-ma...2017-10-27

If true UMass could bring that coveted additional time zone AAC fans are looking for.

Yep. That's why the AAC needs Hawaii too. A lot of time zones means a lot of extra money. Ask the WAC how that worked out for them.

This would be cool. I’ve always wished the divide between Eastern & Central would be the Mississippi River. Love places in the summer where it doesn’t get dark till 10.

The nice thing about China is that you'd only have to add one school because they just have the one time zone.

Massachusetts has a lot of half-baked ideas. They're not moving to Atlantic time.

(10-28-2017 09:19 AM)westwolf Wrote:  Massachusetts has a lot of half-baked ideas. They're not moving to Atlantic time.

+3 spot on!

It'd only be for basketball/hockey season and the last month of football season. Massachusetts doesn't want to switch time zones, it wants to make daylight savings time permanent, but for some reason the federal government stuck its nose in and made that illegal. So what Mass has to do to get the same effect is switch to Atlantic time and then refuse to observe daylight savings, which the federal government does allow states to do. That means they'd still be on the same time as Eastern Time for roughly 8 months of the year, it'd just be during the winter months when the Eastern time zone drops back an hour that Mass would keep on going as usual, no more clock-changing games.

Maine has already approved the move if Mass goes. New Hampshire had one house approve it if Mass goes but the other reject it. Rhode Island has the same bill up (dependent on Mass doing it first) but hasn't voted yet. The question is whether Massachusetts is willing to trigger all these other states into moving or if they kick it down the line with a "Mass moves if New York moves" vote. If Massachusetts and New York both move, all remaining border states will surely move except maybe Pennsylvania. It's a little bit like conference realignment.

(10-28-2017 02:17 PM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  It'd only be for basketball/hockey season and the last month of football season. Massachusetts doesn't want to switch time zones, it wants to make daylight savings time permanent, but for some reason the federal government stuck its nose in and made that illegal. So what Mass has to do to get the same effect is switch to Atlantic time and then refuse to observe daylight savings, which the federal government does allow states to do. That means they'd still be on the same time as Eastern Time for roughly 8 months of the year, it'd just be during the winter months when the Eastern time zone drops back an hour that Mass would keep on going as usual, no more clock-changing games.

Maine has already approved the move if Mass goes. New Hampshire had one house approve it if Mass goes but the other reject it. Rhode Island has the same bill up (dependent on Mass doing it first) but hasn't voted yet. The question is whether Massachusetts is willing to trigger all these other states into moving or if they kick it down the line with a "Mass moves if New York moves" vote. If Massachusetts and New York both move, all remaining border states will surely move except maybe Pennsylvania. It's a little bit like conference realignment.

I hear the central time zone is going to make a push for Colorado if the ESPN money is there

(10-28-2017 02:17 PM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  It'd only be for basketball/hockey season and the last month of football season. Massachusetts doesn't want to switch time zones, it wants to make daylight savings time permanent, but for some reason the federal government stuck its nose in and made that illegal. So what Mass has to do to get the same effect is switch to Atlantic time and then refuse to observe daylight savings, which the federal government does allow states to do. That means they'd still be on the same time as Eastern Time for roughly 8 months of the year, it'd just be during the winter months when the Eastern time zone drops back an hour that Mass would keep on going as usual, no more clock-changing games.

Maine has already approved the move if Mass goes. New Hampshire had one house approve it if Mass goes but the other reject it. Rhode Island has the same bill up (dependent on Mass doing it first) but hasn't voted yet. The question is whether Massachusetts is willing to trigger all these other states into moving or if they kick it down the line with a "Mass moves if New York moves" vote. If Massachusetts and New York both move, all remaining border states will surely move except maybe Pennsylvania. It's a little bit like conference realignment.

If Massachusetts goes, could parts of neighboring states that are part of a Massachusetts metro area also jump without having to switch the whole state? Like part of northwestern Indiana is Central even though most of the rest of the state is Eastern, because they're part of the Chicago metro.

I couldn't see all of Connecticut moving since part of it is in the New York City television market. Part of Massachusetts and Vermont are also in the Albany DMA, so I doubt those move either.

Caribou, Maine its sunset at 3:43pm in December and sunrise at 4:37 in June.

Terre Haute, Indiana its sunset at 5:25pm in December and sunrise at 6:23am in June.

The two locales obviously do not both belong in the eastern timezone.

Louisville will experience its latest sunrise at 8:13 AM a few days from now, right before going back to Standard Time.

(10-28-2017 10:39 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Caribou, Maine its sunset at 3:43pm in December and sunrise at 4:37 in June.

Terre Haute, Indiana its sunset at 5:25pm in December and sunrise at 6:23am in June.

The two locales obviously do not both belong in the eastern timezone.

Yes, ALL of Indiana would be in the Central time zone if it was purely on the map line. If a full speed HSR corridor was put in place between Indianapolis and Chicago, it could well switch, but until then, only the NW part of the state feels more urgency in being on Chicago time than being on Michigan / Ohio / Pittsburgh / NYC time.

But what does the June sunrise have to do with this proposal? They'll be the same, before & after this move, because Atlantic Standard Time and Eastern daylight savings time are the same time.

Maine has similar pressure to be on the same time as MA, & being near the eastern edge of the ETZ longitudes is secondary to that.

so Mass would be ok with more kids waiting in the dark for school buses in the morning?

(10-28-2017 11:21 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  so Mass would be ok with more kids waiting in the dark for school buses in the morning?

Yes. And every state in New England will march their kids to the bus stop in the dark if we approve it.

(10-31-2017 01:32 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 11:21 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  so Mass would be ok with more kids waiting in the dark for school buses in the morning?

Yes. And every state in New England will march their kids to the bus stop in the dark if we approve it.

I should probably say I live in Boston now.

(10-31-2017 02:01 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 01:32 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 11:21 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  so Mass would be ok with more kids waiting in the dark for school buses in the morning?

Yes. And every state in New England will march their kids to the bus stop in the dark if we approve it.

I should probably say I live in Boston now.

I am in Boston, too. As we have probably both read locally here, the only way that Mass will hop time zones is if all of the rest of New England comes along with us. New York won't as a state since they stretch too far west. I could see metro NYC and Long Island also being tempted, though, since they are east enough.

I recall reading that the primary reason for the proposed change was to attract and keep young workforce talent here. Young grads would prefer not to live in a place where it is pitch black at 4:45 PM in winter. The time zone change would make the lifestyle more appealing.