http://www.gunowners.org/alert10122017.htm

Quote:House Speaker Paul Ryan is now asking -- begging, really -- the Trump administration to unilaterally impose gun control restrictions.

And there is virtually no conceivable way that these restrictions will fall short of eventually regulating or banning your detachable magazines.

“We think the regulatory fix is the smartest, quickest fix,” Ryan said.

What was he talking about?

The Hill explains:

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday the Trump administration should move quickly to ban a device used in the Las Vegas mass shooting that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire more rapidly.

So Speaker Ryan is urging the ATF to ban bump stocks -- even while he has indefinitely pushed back the pro-gun agenda.

But there are two major problems with this.

First, there is no way that Congress -- or the administration -- will be able to ban or regulate bump stocks without also opening the door to prohibitions on other parts, accessories and magazines.

This is because all of the legislative proposals currently on the table would ban ANY item or device that helps “accelerate the rate of fire” of a semi-automatic firearm.

Using that standard, you can kiss your detachable magazines goodbye!

shoot that idiot (figuratively of course)....

wtf is wrong with that stupid mf.........oh yeah, he's from whisker land...

the leader of the RINOs running his pie-hole once again w/o any TP to wipe.....

How many guns do you guys need?

Lol. He's not getting re-elected.

(10-13-2017 07:46 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Lol. He's not getting re-elected.

one can only hope the sane show up to vote in whisker land.....they did for DJT

what a pompous POS that guy is.....he was only groomed to be a putz.....

he's starting to figure out what '18 means.....

too much fun watching that fuckeer pucker.....

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

last time i checked, the 2nd didn't designate a number.....

do times change....yep....

do people change....naw, they're collectivelty still dumb as a rock....

hence, the 2nd amendment

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

I don't know. How many times should you be allowed to exercise free speech or engage in the pursuit of happiness? I mean, haven't we heard enough of Schumer and Pelosi? I think they are becoming dangerous and are killing people with thier fake health care. We need to limit dumb speech as it can cause people to die.

Frankly, I think we can all agree we don't really want anyone monkeying around with the bill of rights.

(10-13-2017 11:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

I don't know. How many times should you be allowed to exercise free speech or engage in the pursuit of happiness? I mean, haven't we heard enough of Schumer and Pelosi? I think they are becoming dangerous and are killing people with thier fake health care. We need to limit dumb speech as it can cause people to die.

Frankly, I think we can all agree we don't really want anyone monkeying around with the bill of rights.

#ACCOUNTABILITY via #LIABLE needs to happen.....and I mean yesterday.....

free speech is one thing....#ALGORISM is an entire other entity......

http://gunowners.org/alert10202017.htm

Quote:ATF Balking at Imposing New Gun Restrictions

Dear Friend,

I’m so glad there is an army of GOA activists flooding the Capitol and the White House.



Because your collective voice is doing wonders here in the nation’s capital.

I told you earlier this week how I sent a letter to the President, urging him to oppose every call for gun control in the wake of the Las Vegas tragedy.

Democrats are calling for gun control.

Various Republicans are demanding that the President’s ATF do something.

And as you know, some of the President’s comments have even indicated that he might be open to some new restrictions.

But in response to my email earlier this week, the GOA grassroots army has deluged the White House with emails and phone calls.

I do want to be careful here. We don’t want to declare victory yet.

But things are looking real good. And so I would say to the thousands of activists who have already contacted the White House: You will be happy to hear the latest news!

The Washington Examiner is now reporting that:


In the wake of the shooting, Republicans and Democrats called for restrictions on the device, and the National Rifle Association suggested that the ATF find a way to issue a new regulation prohibiting the device.

But House aides said the ATF [has indicated] that it’s not ready to regulate bump stocks and promoted the idea of bump stock legislation.


So the ATF is saying that the agency cannot regulate bump stocks without Congress passing new legislation.

According to the Washington Examiner:


The ATF may have run into a problem predicted by Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., who leads the Congressional Second Amendment Caucus [and who is a GOA member]. Massie told the Washington Examiner this month that under current law, automatic weapons are those that discharge more than one round with a single pull of the trigger.

Bump stocks, he said, speed up the rate of fire, but still require the shooter to pull the trigger once for each round that is discharged. Massie said for that reason, there is no basis under the law to regulate bump stocks.


But congressional leaders don’t seem inclined right now to pass new restrictions, which is why they were hoping the ATF would do their dirty work.

Again, we are not ready to declare victory.

But if you haven’t taken action yet, please email your congressmen and the President.

We need to keep the heat on everyone in Washington.

Make sure they know that we’re still watching them -- and that we’ll “remember in November” if they try to enact any infringements.

Your collective voice is definitely making a difference!

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

1 of each model from each manufacturer

Deep thoughts here. Did our fore-fathers wrote the Constitution especially the 2nd Amendment rights to be abuse by some people in the future? They have a line in the Amendments that people should not cross. When you have someone who own guns, but then he goes out and do a mass killing? That is abusing your 2nd Amendment rights right there.

Rogers broke his collar bone and now the RINO Ryan is going to feel the wrath since the last bit of distractions are removed.

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

Enough to fill up my closet. And my bedroom. IOW's as many as I want. Which part of 'shall not be infringed' confuses you?

Here, let me help you out:

in·fringe
inˈfrinj/
verb
past tense: infringed; past participle: infringed

actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.).
"making an unauthorized copy would infringe copyright"
synonyms: contravene, violate, transgress, break, breach; More
disobey, defy, flout, fly in the face of;
disregard, ignore, neglect;
go beyond, overstep, exceed;
infract
"the statute infringed constitutionally guaranteed rights"
antonyms: obey, comply with
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
"his legal rights were being infringed"

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

I don't have any guns now, lost them all in a canoe accident.

(10-26-2017 02:58 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

1 of each model from each manufacturer

Why stop at one? I mean I like the idea of wearing two pearl handled Colt .45's.

(10-26-2017 03:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

I don't have any guns now, lost them all in a canoe accident.

All of mine were swept away during a flood. And I have no flood insurance...

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

How much freedom of speech, freedom to associate, and freedom of religion do you really need? How many civil rights do you need, anyways?

Forget what your teacher used to say....there really are stupid questions, afterall.

Having seen how corrupt both parties are, I think the 2nd amendment is pretty nice as it is.

(10-26-2017 03:17 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 03:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 07:21 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How many guns do you guys need?

I don't have any guns now, lost them all in a canoe accident.

All of mine were swept away during a flood. And I have no flood insurance...

Turrible, just turrible. We should pay more attention around the water.

(10-26-2017 03:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Deep thoughts here. Did our fore-fathers wrote the Constitution especially the 2nd Amendment rights to be abuse by some people in the future? They have a line in the Amendments that people should not cross. When you have someone who own guns, but then he goes out and do a mass killing? That is abusing your 2nd Amendment rights right there.

Uhhh, yea?

Am we have laws against murder, right?

Did he obey those laws, best you and your “deep thoughts” can tell?