(10-18-2017 04:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Trump always sounds like he always say the wrong thing that upsets a lot of people. If he can't say things the right way without offending a mourning family? Either resign or hand the duties to Mike Pence.
/looks through official Presidential job responsibilities
//finds nothing about not upsetting people or not offending a mourning family.
(10-18-2017 04:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Trump always sounds like he always say the wrong thing that upsets a lot of people. If he can't say things the right way without offending a mourning family? Either resign or hand the duties to Mike Pence.
You folks continue to think that Americans voted for Trump to get a well-spoken, scripted, polished, focus-grouped, carefully managed, slick, smooth, perfect hair, politician President.
They did not. They voted to get the exact opposite.
You people are apoplectic that you aren't getting traction on this stuff and cannot understand why.
You should ponder on WHY they voted for that and how the Democratic Party can satisfy that.
Did it matter when Trump claimed McCain was not a war hero?
When he stated perhaps soldiers on PTSD meds are not strong minded?
When he unnecessarily said this to this woman?
No his base only finds fault in others.
Blame congress blame the media blame past administrations.
His dumb line about shooting someone on Broadway and still winning is kinda true. As far as his base goes. Kinda like arguing religion even a good point is wasted on his followers.
(10-18-2017 05:10 PM)MJG Wrote: Did it matter when Trump claimed McCain was not a war hero?
When he stated perhaps soldiers on PTSD meds are not strong minded?
When he unnecessarily said this to this woman?
No his base only finds fault in others.
Blame congress blame the media blame past administrations.
His dumb line about shooting someone on Broadway and still winning is kinda true. As far as his base goes. Kinda like arguing religion even a good point is wasted on his followers.
Maybe so, but his discrepancies are way little compared to the one YOU wanted to vote for...or voted for the last two elections. Saying something stupid does not compare to doing something stupid, over and over again.
(10-18-2017 05:10 PM)MJG Wrote: Did it matter when Trump claimed McCain was not a war hero?
When he stated perhaps soldiers on PTSD meds are not strong minded?
When he unnecessarily said this to this woman?
No his base only finds fault in others.
Blame congress blame the media blame past administrations.
His dumb line about shooting someone on Broadway and still winning is kinda true. As far as his base goes. Kinda like arguing religion even a good point is wasted on his followers.
His base cringes at lots of stuff. But then again Raqqa has fallen and ISIS members are trying to make a deal to leave and he says no.
His base cringes, but Canada and Mexico are at the table renegotiating NAFTA.
Liberal media is full of "his tie is too long", "his hair looks funny", "he uses the word beautiful wrong", "he said mean things to Kim Jong Un", "he didn't issue a statement soon enough", "he golfs too much", "he threw a paper towel roll". All tripe, all the time, film at 11.
No, his base doesn't care about that. Hasn't cared about it for a year. Won't care about it tomorrow.
(10-18-2017 04:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Trump always sounds like he always say the wrong thing that upsets a lot of people. If he can't say things the right way without offending a mourning family? Either resign or hand the duties to Mike Pence.
You folks continue to think that Americans voted for Trump to get a well-spoken, scripted, polished, focus-grouped, carefully managed, slick, smooth, perfect hair, politician President.
They did not. They voted to get the exact opposite.
You people are apoplectic that you aren't getting traction on this stuff and cannot understand why.
You should ponder on WHY they voted for that and how the Democratic Party can satisfy that.
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You have to be an idiot to think you would get someone scripted, polished, etc. after watching the last few months. Yet you keep complaining that he isn't. He's all over the place, rude, crude, insensitive (not so much in this case-this is faux outrage). He's not going to change because he won. Its like complaining the sky is blue and thinking it will change things.
Whether we liked it or not, everyone who voted for him knew he would be like this. Everyone who didn't usually complained about it so you shouldn't be surprised either.
They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. You said all this before the election and about every day since and you expect people who voted for him to get upset about it. Trump is the same person day after day and you act like you expect a different result. So the only conclusion is that all of you have a strong tendency towards insanity.
(10-18-2017 01:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: It is beyond dispute that (a) Trump took days to respond to the deaths in Niger, and (b) he falsely said Obama and other presidents didn't make calls to the families of fallen soldiers. Yes, Obama did not call General Kelly after the death of his son but Trump didn't mention that family in general in his first statement, he said "The traditional way, if you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn't make calls, a lot of them didn't make calls. I like to call when it's appropriate, when I think I'm able to do it."
Getting back to my first point, release the tape and make it link to a fundraiser for some type of fallen warrior foundation. I bet you the Johnson family would be fine with releasing the tape under those circumstances. Trump was happy to send out correspondence on the NFL anthem issue linking fundraisers to his re-election campaign. He has no problem politicizing the Anthem for his own profits; may as well do something nice for those who deserve it instead.
But it won't happen. Instead, it's just another black mark on Trump's floundering reputation with most Americans.
Keep counting.
You know what else you can count? The folks like me that didn't vote in the last election because I didn't like either candidate. However, since January and the reaction and continual BS attempts by the left to vilify the President... I'll be voting for Trump in 2020. And I know many more who feel the same why I do.
CG we need a VA election expert for their offyear 2017 elections. You win the role. Congrats.
The congresswoman has already been discredited for lying about Trump statements before so she's a useless. The widow is already in an emotional state, likely not a fan of Trump hears what the congresswoman says and seizes on it. I've heard Trump speak on television about fallen heroes, he comes across as very compassionate. I seriously doubt he had any ILL intent in his statements to the widow, but given a chance, people like the dirtbag congresswoman will try to create controversy where it doesn't exist. It would be a shame if the POTUS has to record his side of these calls to prove his statements were made with respect and compassion.
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(10-18-2017 06:54 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote: The congresswoman has already been discredited for lying about Trump statements before so she's a useless. The widow is already in an emotional state, likely not a fan of Trump hears what the congresswoman says and seizes on it. I've heard Trump speak on television about fallen heroes, he comes across as very compassionate. I seriously doubt he had any ILL intent in his statements to the widow, but given a chance, people like the dirtbag congresswoman will try to create controversy where it doesn't exist. It would be a shame if the POTUS has to record his side of these calls to prove his statements were made with respect and compassion.
Thats why Im super skeptical of this being much of anything. Say what you will about Trump, his respect and admiration for the US military is a sharp departure from the more recent democrat presidents (Obama and Clinton) who barely tolerated the required presence of the military. Hillary was known to be especially hostile toward military aides and guards in her presence. Being disrecpectful doesnt sound fit Trump at all. Like I said, I think he probably mispronounced the name or stubled when trying to recall it and the perception of the call probably was all down hill from there.
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have we even heard from the widow? the only video I have seen is of the congresswoman, and even on that video, she didn't even especially said what Trump told the widow. I have a feeling that the congresswoman is just trying to get her 15 minutes of fame.
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(10-18-2017 06:48 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Purely anecdotal, but I also have co-workers that did not vote for Trump who say they will next time due to the constant tripe by the media.
Long time until then, but it is an interesting dynamic.
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The left doesn't seem to understand that the majority of Americans are still CENTER-RIGHT. Which means the further the left goes left, the more votes they leave behind.
(10-18-2017 06:54 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote: The congresswoman has already been discredited for lying about Trump statements before so she's a useless. The widow is already in an emotional state, likely not a fan of Trump hears what the congresswoman says and seizes on it. I've heard Trump speak on television about fallen heroes, he comes across as very compassionate. I seriously doubt he had any ILL intent in his statements to the widow, but given a chance, people like the dirtbag congresswoman will try to create controversy where it doesn't exist. It would be a shame if the POTUS has to record his side of these calls to prove his statements were made with respect and compassion.
It's asinine to imagine that the burden of proof is on him in this situation. If people want to slander someone... the burden of proof is on them, or it's just that... slander.
It is a shame that the democrats are exploiting veterans families for political gain. Why else attack a person of a different party in a situation like this? All they care about is division and creating a chaotic political system.
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(10-18-2017 07:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: she didnt know exactly what Trump said!!!
Huh....Wilson sure sounds like she is in back track mode on this one. Sounds to me like she didnt hear crap and threw out an outlandish claim---that then went viral---only to find she now has to defend it....and cant.
This is just Wilson being Wilson. She should have a pitcher of beer with Maxine Waters. I suspect they would have a blast.
