(10-16-2017 09:59 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:55 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:24 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:16 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:13 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I didn't attend.

Then your right to complain equals exactly zero.

And this is why we're stuck at 22,000 average for the year.

Because people who claim to care don’t bother to show up?

Yeah, pretty much.

No, rocktherocks low brow attitude and thought process is why and what eagnbran is referring to, and i agree with him.

When is the last time you actually attended a USM football game?

(10-16-2017 09:26 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Know you have connections, more than most. What’s going with sound system?

My guess would be there’s nothing “going on with it.” You’re talking about potentially getting 36,000 people in the building. There’s always going to be just as many people at any given time complaining that it’s too loud and we need to just let the game breathe instead of blaring music constantly and the PA guy never shutting up. I’ve personally heard people say that & read them state it on various incarnations of message boards. It’s one of those things where you’re never going to make eveybody happy.

The biggest problem with the atmosphere right now is the 10,000 people b****ing about it from home.

(10-16-2017 10:04 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:26 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Know you have connections, more than most. What’s going with sound system?

My guess would be there’s nothing “going on with it.” You’re talking about potentially getting 36,000 people in the building. There’s always going to be just as many people at any given time complaining that it’s too loud and we need to just let the game breathe instead of blaring music constantly and the PA guy never shutting up. I’ve personally heard people say that & read them state it on various incarnations of message boards. It’s one of those things where you’re never going to make eveybody happy.

The biggest problem with the atmosphere right now is the 10,000 people b****ing about it from home.

Well I guess they'll keep getting what they want as more and more people stop coming. That'll make it where they can sit and watch their team in peace and quiet lose to Savannah State.

Go to an SEC game. See the atmosphere they create with music, lights, videos, the works. We pale in comparison. And when so many of my friends who I went to school with, who went to every home game as students, are now going to SEC games, it's something we should really look at. Because the constant I hear from them is "the atmosphere sucks", "boring", and "high schoolish".

But I guess if we keep listening to the few people in power that want their library at the Rock, they can get it.

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

Click HERE to offer feedback directly to the athletic department regarding your game experience.

Since you didn't have a game experience, but are obviously so well versed in why people aren't attending, why don't you set them straight?

Some of you people beat everything.

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

The potential of any vision & product only becomes more limited with more people throwing in the towel. Everybody wants nicer this and that, but expects it to just magically appear. You want in a better conference? Not effing happening with a $20 million budget and 20,000 in the stands, and storming off in a huff because our best QB has a cast on his hand or the speakers aren’t turned up loud enough or whatever the Gripe of the Day is aids neither.

I don’t begrudge anyone for not wanting to be involved in any meaningful manner. They have every right to make that choice. But once it’s made, stick to it and go TF away instead of continuing to complain about something in which you insist you’ve lost all interest.

(10-16-2017 09:13 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I didn't attend. I have plenty of friends who didn't attend. It's not worth my dollar to drive down and watch the product on the field. It's not fun. The atmosphere at the game isn't fun and the two times I've gone this year I've left frustrated by the quality of the product. And atmosphere is a lot more than just winning. It's the music, it's the experience. There is none. It's like I'm watching a high school football team play with how quiet the music is and how engaging the experience overall is. Though if I'm honest, that might be an insult to some high school teams in the state.

I love USM, but until I see actual commitment to improvement and not just catch-phrase slogans to drum up minuscule support, I'll wait until there are actually interesting games to go to. Watching us play an 0-6 UTEP team (and look quite bad doing it) was not on my list (and apparently many others') of fun ideas for a Saturday.

It's pretty incredible that some of y'all are so far removed from the 2012 and 2013 seasons that you can complain about how the team is now.

No, the team isn't going to score 55 points a game, but we have one of the better running backs in the history of the school on the field right now. He's worth the price of admission. The team is 4-2.

Honestly, who didn't know that the QB position was going to be a cluster after Mullens left? You don't just replace a 4-year starter and keep putting up video-game numbers without some hurdles along the way.

Suck it up and quit conditionally supporting your school based on your "this is fun" subjectivity. Do you think Alabama fans really give a **** if the game is "fun?"

I refuse to attend another game until they stop that ******* karaoke with the coaches bull****. it's the most cringing, embarrassing **** i've ever seen.

(10-16-2017 10:10 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

Click HERE to offer feedback directly to the athletic department regarding your game experience.

Since you didn't have a game experience, but are obviously so well versed in why people aren't attending, why don't you set them straight?

Some of you people beat everything.

^this

+3

(10-16-2017 10:08 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Go to an SEC game. See the atmosphere they create with music, lights, videos, the works.

No, what creates the atmosphere at an SEC game is the 70-100,000 people in the stadium living & dying with every play. All that other stuff came about because they had to spend all that money on something. Does it add to the ambiance? Sure. But play a game in Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge or Knoxville with only 20,000 in the house and I assure you the atmosphere will suck regardless of how high you turn up the volume or flash the lights. Conversely, you could shut off the electricity to those stadiums altogether, and the game experiences in all those places would still be pretty spectacular.

(10-16-2017 10:18 AM)imajeep Wrote:  I refuse to attend another game until they stop that ******* karaoke with the coaches bull****. it's the most cringing, embarrassing **** i've ever seen.

If that’s the hill upon which you’re willing to die, you either care far too much about a silly time out vignette or far too little about the football program.

(10-16-2017 10:08 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:04 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:26 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Know you have connections, more than most. What’s going with sound system?

My guess would be there’s nothing “going on with it.” You’re talking about potentially getting 36,000 people in the building. There’s always going to be just as many people at any given time complaining that it’s too loud and we need to just let the game breathe instead of blaring music constantly and the PA guy never shutting up. I’ve personally heard people say that & read them state it on various incarnations of message boards. It’s one of those things where you’re never going to make eveybody happy.

The biggest problem with the atmosphere right now is the 10,000 people b****ing about it from home.

Well I guess they'll keep getting what they want as more and more people stop coming. That'll make it where they can sit and watch their team in peace and quiet lose to Savannah State.

Go to an SEC game. See the atmosphere they create with music, lights, videos, the works. We pale in comparison. And when so many of my friends who I went to school with, who went to every home game as students, are now going to SEC games, it's something we should really look at. Because the constant I hear from them is "the atmosphere sucks", "boring", and "high schoolish".

But I guess if we keep listening to the few people in power that want their library at the Rock, they can get it.

I tried to define that exact same thing to Carr and Monk tossing back red bulls and vodka at the EZ years ago....

there are some really simple things we could do to enhance the experience with minimal impact to the bottom line.....

however, I still contend that eliminating one of the best tailgating real estate venues in the country was the nail in the coffin relative to attendance.....

and not only did they TTT that one, they just continued to pile-on......

space is now a serious problem.......

#dipshites

(10-16-2017 10:10 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

Click HERE to offer feedback directly to the athletic department regarding your game experience.

Since you didn't have a game experience, but are obviously so well versed in why people aren't attending, why don't you set them straight?

Some of you people beat everything.

I've attended pretty much every home game for over 15 years. I painted up every home game of the 0-12 season. I've constantly supported this team and have given my feedback multiple times. We have no one in Hattiesburg who cares to listen as long as their country club stays in tact.

(10-16-2017 10:12 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

The potential of any vision & product only becomes more limited with more people throwing in the towel. Everybody wants nicer this and that, but expects it to just magically appear. You want in a better conference? Not effing happening with a $20 million budget and 20,000 in the stands, and storming off in a huff because our best QB has a cast on his hand or the speakers aren’t turned up loud enough or whatever the Gripe of the Day is aids neither.

I don’t begrudge anyone for not wanting to be involved in any meaningful manner. They have every right to make that choice. But once it’s made, stick to it and go TF away instead of continuing to complain about something in which you insist you’ve lost all interest.

They've been given this feedback for 20+ years and have done nothing. Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. When the same people who have done nothing are still doing nothing and calling it a job, it's hard to get behind that leadership. I'm hoping our new AD can change things down there, but nothing has shown that he can yet. Too much money wants things kept a certain way.

(10-16-2017 10:25 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:08 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Go to an SEC game. See the atmosphere they create with music, lights, videos, the works.

No, what creates the atmosphere at an SEC game is the 70-100,000 people in the stadium living & dying with every play.

In a way that is so pathetic though.

While I wish our fanbase "cared" more, I find it both funny and sad when people let the outcome of a college football game affect their mood for more than 20 minutes.

Sports are the new "opiate of the masses"

(10-16-2017 11:45 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:10 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

Click HERE to offer feedback directly to the athletic department regarding your game experience.

Since you didn't have a game experience, but are obviously so well versed in why people aren't attending, why don't you set them straight?

Some of you people beat everything.

I've attended pretty much every home game for over 15 years. I painted up every home game of the 0-12 season. I've constantly supported this team and have given my feedback multiple times. We have no one in Hattiesburg who cares to listen as long as their country club stays in tact.

(10-16-2017 10:12 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  If the people who have come to games for years without missing are now suddenly not showing up, then we should really listen to them and not isolate them for not seeing the overall product and vision of the university as something to support.

The potential of any vision & product only becomes more limited with more people throwing in the towel. Everybody wants nicer this and that, but expects it to just magically appear. You want in a better conference? Not effing happening with a $20 million budget and 20,000 in the stands, and storming off in a huff because our best QB has a cast on his hand or the speakers aren’t turned up loud enough or whatever the Gripe of the Day is aids neither.

I don’t begrudge anyone for not wanting to be involved in any meaningful manner. They have every right to make that choice. But once it’s made, stick to it and go TF away instead of continuing to complain about something in which you insist you’ve lost all interest.

They've been given this feedback for 20+ years and have done nothing. Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. When the same people who have done nothing are still doing nothing and calling it a job, it's hard to get behind that leadership. I'm hoping our new AD can change things down there, but nothing has shown that he can yet. Too much money wants things kept a certain way.

Three things here:

1) Who is “they” over this 20-year period? We’ve been through like 4 ADs & university presidents each during that time. If things haven’t changed, there’s obviously more going on than people refusing to listen because surely somebody would have by now.

2) The only effective way to combat the country club and old money is with new money. Of course an administrator is going to value the opinion of a big contributor and a 15-year season ticket holder over those staying home & grumbling among their friends or on a message board. It’d be stupid to do it otherwise.

3) Everybody clamors for change, but you’re seeing right now how people react to it. Game revenue is up according to the people who actually see the books, but we’re having a damn free-for-all about the fewer tickets being given away.

(10-16-2017 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  however, I still contend that eliminating one of the best tailgating real estate venues in the country was the nail in the coffin relative to attendance.....

and not only did they TTT that one, they just continued to pile-on......

space is now a serious problem.......

#dipshites

I've seen you mention this several times and I have tried to ignore it but there is no way attendance declined in any significant way because they built the Trent Lott Center and Scianna Hall where a gravel parking lot used to be. That was a tailgate area when we were drawing 14k and in danger of being dropped to 1-AA in the 80s and 90s. Sure, some people had to relocate and got in huff, but that is not why we aren't drawing 36k every game. Also, it is important to remember that a university campus should be utilized to maximize the student experience, not ensure a few hundred people have a place to tailgate for 6 days a year. Also, we have way better tailgating areas than a lot of universities with much better attendance. Some argue that better tailgating spots hurt attendance because they don't go into the game.

No one frets over attendance more that USM fans. I never see attendance reported in articles about other schools. We seem to want it/need it. It's just not healthy or effective.

I used to worry about it too. It caused me to enjoy the games less and less because we were putting out good teams, sometimes great teams, but attendance didn't increase proportionately. Now I just enjoy the games. I drive 3 1/2 hours now to see the Eagles. I'm not going to let those that don't ruin my day. I see my kids. I see my friends and former colleagues. I watch the Eagles play. Life is good.

(10-16-2017 10:04 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:59 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:55 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:24 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:16 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  Then your right to complain equals exactly zero.

And this is why we're stuck at 22,000 average for the year.

Because people who claim to care don’t bother to show up?

Yeah, pretty much.

No, rocktherocks low brow attitude and thought process is why and what eagnbran is referring to, and i agree with him.

When is the last time you actually attended a USM football game?

Bump- how about a lowbrow answer?

(10-17-2017 08:15 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:04 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:59 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:55 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:24 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  And this is why we're stuck at 22,000 average for the year.

Because people who claim to care don’t bother to show up?

Yeah, pretty much.

No, rocktherocks low brow attitude and thought process is why and what eagnbran is referring to, and i agree with him.

When is the last time you actually attended a USM football game?

Bump- how about a lowbrow answer?

Can try this for starters.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-830073-post-146...id14683204

(10-17-2017 09:31 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 08:15 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:04 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:59 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:55 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Because people who claim to care don’t bother to show up?

Yeah, pretty much.

No, rocktherocks low brow attitude and thought process is why and what eagnbran is referring to, and i agree with him.

When is the last time you actually attended a USM football game?

Bump- how about a lowbrow answer?

Can try this for starters.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-830073-post-146...id14683204

Must be a pretty embarrassing answer for you.

(10-17-2017 09:35 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 09:31 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 08:15 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 10:04 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 09:59 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  No, rocktherocks low brow attitude and thought process is why and what eagnbran is referring to, and i agree with him.

When is the last time you actually attended a USM football game?

Bump- how about a lowbrow answer?

Can try this for starters.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-830073-post-146...id14683204

Must be a pretty embarrassing answer for you.

Lol. Theres nothing embarrassing at all. As you, and this board knows, i barely go to games at all....ever. ive made previous posts about this. Ill start a new thread about it, if i can get a guarantee that it will be a sticky thread at the top of the page, indefinitely. Last game was the nola bowl btw.

Before i make any assumptions, what is your facination with Reggie Favre or Eagnbrans game attendance? Love to hear what your point is. If you have one.