http://www.dailypress.com/sports/william...story.html

Interesting. Thanks for posting. What I also learned in this article that made me go...

...was this statement...

With no timeouts remaining, W&M then called a running play that gained 4 yards.


Seems like a very odd decision by Laycock and staff.

Quote:According to the CAA, any disciplinary actions taken against the officiating crew “will be handled internally by the conference office.”

Live look at CAA Disciplinary action

(10-04-2017 10:14 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

Quote:According to the CAA, any disciplinary actions taken against the officiating crew “will be handled internally by the conference office.”

Live look at CAA Disciplinary action

LOL!

In this corner weighing in at Zero Credibility we have the CAA. In the other corner weighing in with Zero Competence we have CAA Football Officiating Crew.

(Ding Ding the first round begins)

(10-04-2017 10:14 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

Quote:According to the CAA, any disciplinary actions taken against the officiating crew “will be handled internally by the conference office.”

Live look at CAA Disciplinary action

hahahaha! good one. Wonder if its the same crew that officated the JMU Maine game?

(10-04-2017 10:11 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Interesting. Thanks for posting. What I also learned in this article that made me go...

...was this statement...

With no timeouts remaining, W&M then called a running play that gained 4 yards.


Seems like a very odd decision by Laycock and staff.

But that run play never happens if they got that call right.

(10-04-2017 10:50 AM)TribePride52 Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 10:11 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Interesting. Thanks for posting. What I also learned in this article that made me go...

...was this statement...

With no timeouts remaining, W&M then called a running play that gained 4 yards.


Seems like a very odd decision by Laycock and staff.

But that run play never happens if they got that call right.

Perhaps. Not defending the poor officiating at all, btw. That speaks for itself.

Just find it odd to run the ball with no timeouts left and expect the team to assemble in time to clock the ball knowing you have to stay above 10 seconds with risk of what eventually happened (clock run off with no timeouts). Odd.

(10-04-2017 10:22 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  hahahaha! good one. Wonder if its the same crew that officated the JMU Maine game?

It wasn't.

There should really be a rule in place that if a flag is NOT thrown on the field at live speed the infraction cannot be reviewed for targeting.

At the very least the CAA should not call targeting b/c obviously they cannot properly adjudicate that rule.

The run has been the subject of much debate; we were at the 21 yard line, and had just taken a shot incomplete to the endzone. Our RB had slipped through the linebackers a couple of times late in the game, so my guess is the thought was this gets us to a chip shot field goal, or maybe he breaks and we get to the endzone. He picked up 4 or 5 yards, and we snapped the ball with 8 seconds; had it not been for a false start on our O-Line that resulted in a ten second runoff and thus the end of the game, we have plenty of time to get the FG unit on, maybe even take a quick shot at the endzone if we're feeling crazy.

for sure. Run the ball to center it up for a FG then expect to have time to spike it, except someone got jumpy. Play call seems right to me. take a shot or two for the endzone, center it up and kick it to tie. Unfortunately there was a glitch.

Now I'm having Mickey flashbacks for centering up for a fieldgoal and there was a glitch.

(10-04-2017 02:00 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  for sure. Run the ball to center it up for a FG then expect to have time to spike it, except someone got jumpy. Play call seems right to me. take a shot or two for the endzone, center it up and kick it to tie. Unfortunately there was a glitch.

Now I'm having Mickey flashbacks for centering up for a fieldgoal and there was a glitch.

I agree if it had only gone that way. Running the ball to center it up for a FG normally doesn't involve running for a 4 yd gain. It normally means the QB takes a few steps to the center of the field and takes about a 1 yard loss. A head coach - especially one that is several decades beyond a rookie - knows with no timeouts they should line up for a FG with more than 10 seconds on the clock if possible due to the risk of a movement penalty and clock run off. Oh well. Didn't work out for W&M. Lots of things appeared to go against them at the end starting with the miss by the refs.

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  There should really be a rule in place that if a flag is NOT thrown on the field at live speed the infraction cannot be reviewed for targeting.

At the very least the CAA should not call targeting b/c obviously they cannot properly adjudicate that rule.

Agreed. As I read it they threw a flag for a late hit dead ball personal foul. Why was the review called? For that? If so the review was called for something unrelated to the targeting they found on the review.

So when reviewing the play that they discovered a completely unrelated hit to what the penalty was called for, where there was no flag thrown, yet deemed it warranted a targeting and ejection. If there is no flag for targeting, there should be no review for targeting.

(10-04-2017 02:14 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:00 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  for sure. Run the ball to center it up for a FG then expect to have time to spike it, except someone got jumpy. Play call seems right to me. take a shot or two for the endzone, center it up and kick it to tie. Unfortunately there was a glitch.

Now I'm having Mickey flashbacks for centering up for a fieldgoal and there was a glitch.

I agree if it had only gone that way. Running the ball to center it up for a FG normally doesn't involve running for a 4 yd gain. It normally means the QB takes a few steps to the center of the field and takes about a 1 yard loss. A head coach - especially one that is several decades beyond a rookie - knows with no timeouts they should line up for a FG with more than 10 seconds on the clock if possible due to the risk of a movement penalty and clock run off. Oh well. Didn't work out for W&M. Lots of things appeared to go against them at the end starting with the miss by the refs.

Ugh. I can't even think about that play without having trouble breathing. Don't think I've ever had a more heart-wrenching turn. Was standing a few rows behind Pitz...everyone ready to celebrate...and then everyone just dropped. Ugh. When we stopped for dinner every AppSt fan came up and said we should have won (which was true, we dominated basically the whole game)...which made it so much worse. Good thing they didn't go on to win their 3rd-straight NC after that...oh wait...

Yeah, and how stupid does your guy have to be to get a false start there. I mean, sure, there's 59:50 worth of chances where your team should have been in a better position to win, but you literally lost your team the game. Gotta be tough.

Really sucks that an error like that might have cost WM a win. Thankfully the error in ours could be corrected and didn't impact the result of the game.
I really wonder what kind of penalty (aside from a slap on the wrist) is actually done to the officiating crew. It seems like they should be impacted in a way so it doesn't happen again. In both cases they didn't follow the rule book.
As bad as the CAA crews have been, they don't compare to how bad the lesser conferences have it. I remember the SoCon was notorious for having terrible officiating crews.

Side note regarding Stony Brook...

...they are now 3-0 in the CAA. They have left...

Oct 7: home vs Delaware
Oct 14: home vs UNH
Oct 28: at Ticks
Nov 4: home vs Albany
(Nov 11: non-CAA game at home vs Wagner)
Nov 18: at Maine

I'd prefer they lose a game and we not have to be "Co-CAA Champs". Thinking optimistically of course.

I don't want to (and won't) root for the Ticks. Decent-to-good chance they could be 7-0 in the CAA when they travel to Maine though. Something to keep an eye on.

(10-04-2017 02:32 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  I really wonder what kind of penalty (aside from a slap on the wrist) is actually done to the officiating crew.

They should be forced to spend 3 hours at a UR tailgate. The boredom alone should punish them appropriately.

(10-04-2017 02:34 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Side note regarding Stony Brook...

...they are now 3-0 in the CAA. They have left...

Oct 7: home vs Delaware
Oct 14: home vs UNH
Oct 28: at Ticks
Nov 4: home vs Albany
(Nov 11: non-CAA game at home vs Wagner)
Nov 18: at Maine

I'd prefer they lose a game and we not have to be "Co-CAA Champs". Thinking optimistically of course.

I don't want to (and won't) root for the Ticks. Decent-to-good chance they could be 7-0 in the CAA when they travel to Maine though. Something to keep an eye on.

Don't see them running the table and in fact I think they lose this weekend against UD.

(10-04-2017 02:40 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:34 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Side note regarding Stony Brook...

...they are now 3-0 in the CAA. They have left...

Oct 7: home vs Delaware
Oct 14: home vs UNH
Oct 28: at Ticks
Nov 4: home vs Albany
(Nov 11: non-CAA game at home vs Wagner)
Nov 18: at Maine

I'd prefer they lose a game and we not have to be "Co-CAA Champs". Thinking optimistically of course.

I don't want to (and won't) root for the Ticks. Decent-to-good chance they could be 7-0 in the CAA when they travel to Maine though. Something to keep an eye on.

Don't see them running the table and in fact I think they lose this weekend against UD.

I don't either. That's a beast of a schedule. Delaware is going to be out for blood this week and their defense is legit. UNH is quietly 4-1, and if I've learned anything about the CAA it's never leave out UNH. Ticks may be their easiest CAA game even though it's in the Breadbox. Albany is no joke this year. Wagner is most likely a W. That last game AT Maine in Nov? No thank you!

(10-04-2017 02:32 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  Really sucks that an error like that might have cost WM a win. Thankfully the error in ours could be corrected and didn't impact the result of the game.
I really wonder what kind of penalty (aside from a slap on the wrist) is actually done to the officiating crew. It seems like they should be impacted in a way so it doesn't happen again. In both cases they didn't follow the rule book.
As bad as the CAA crews have been, they don't compare to how bad the lesser conferences have it. I remember the SoCon was notorious for having terrible officiating crews.

Well, on the flip side of the coin it would have IMHOP been just as big of a crock if they had marked off 30 yards against SBU for "discovering" a 15 yd penalty that no flag was thrown on the field for, thereby giving W&M a chip shot FG for the win. I don't remember before this year the review booth being able to through review to discover penalties that no flag was thrown on the field for. What a crock.