Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Take the 10 best schools between CUSA and SBC (including Georgia Southern) and lump the remaining schools (including Georgia State) together and we're good to go. FIU, FAU, Charlotte, Georgia State...all interchangeable.

Well with streaming you will know exactly how many folks are watching certain teams down to the user account. This is probably going to be really good for G5's with real followings not so good for those teams P5 or G5 with no fan bases riding the coat tails of the conference mates.

(09-28-2017 02:12 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Well with streaming you will know exactly how many folks are watching certain teams down to the user account. This is probably going to be really good for G5's with real followings not so good for those teams P5 or G5 with no fan bases riding the coat tails of the conference mates.

This is why anytime and every time your team is being streamed, any sport, tune in and watch, even in the background. As long as we are in the same conference, the same goes for conference mates.

I saw this too. Will be interesting.

NMSU at UNM was streamed on Facebook live, and was their most viewed sporting event to date with over 1 million unique users looking in at some point.

This not only means a lot to the G5 schools, but also the P5 conferences. It's basically what caused the writers strike in late 2000's, advertising revenues from streaming, and I'm sure it's going take center stage soon as more and more people cut the cable chord.

(09-28-2017 02:38 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 02:12 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Well with streaming you will know exactly how many folks are watching certain teams down to the user account. This is probably going to be really good for G5's with real followings not so good for those teams P5 or G5 with no fan bases riding the coat tails of the conference mates.

This is why anytime and every time your team is being streamed, any sport, tune in and watch, even in the background. As long as we are in the same conference, the same goes for conference mates.

I do it so I can spy on all ya'll.

Interesting stuff.

I'm also disappointed this hasn't already turned into a thread where everybody posts their ideal realigned conferences.

I've been saying this from the beginning. When the platform for sports moves entirely to streaming, the schools that will become more important to providers will be schools that can maximize eyeballs in front of ads. Since it's most likely that only fans of a certain school will be watching that school's game (at least at the G5 level), schools with larger, more-established fan bases will reap the benefits. It also puts pressure on schools to schedule games with teams that people will want to watch which will not only drive realignment but also lead to a need for schools at every level to step up their home slate meaning P5's could stop scheduling FCS and so on.

This will push schools in the SBC and CUSA to re-evaluate who in their conference 1. Is able to maximize viewership and 2. Will travel well to their stadium. I think eventually the top 6 from each conference will leave to form a new one. Those schools already exist within a relatively tight footprint.

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

What people are failing to take into account is the traditional cable companies will update their streaming capabilities. Direct TV offers Direct TV Now; it only makes sense that fiber companies will cut their own cable business and offer all previous cable options via the internet rather than via cable subscriptions. Will improve margins by reducing investment in hardware and should allow for better pricing. I'm not convinced that streaming via Yahoo!, Facebook, and any other service is a viable alternative to what traditional TV offerings are.

(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

(09-28-2017 06:24 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  What people are failing to take into account is the traditional cable companies will update their streaming capabilities. Direct TV offers Direct TV Now; it only makes sense that fiber companies will cut their own cable business and offer all previous cable options via the internet rather than via cable subscriptions. Will improve margins by reducing investment in hardware and should allow for better pricing. I'm not convinced that streaming via Yahoo!, Facebook, and any other service is a viable alternative to what traditional TV offerings are.

I don't think any of this Twitter and Facebook streaming is going to take off, but I also don't think that cable companies (at least as we know them today) will last either. Originally, networks negotiated deals with cable companies to be part of their package and cable companies in turn marketed and sold their subscriptions to the consumer as kind of a middle man. Now that every channel has an app that you can stream content from, those middle men are needed less and less since whoever wanted to watch your programming could just come straight to you instead of buying a package with you included.

Every channel, network, and entity will have its own app including the sun belt. Right now, on most apps like ABC, NBC, CBS, HBO, etc you have to have a cable subscription to access their content, but I believe soon these networks will start making everything personal subscription based similar to Netflix, HBO, and Hulu.

So if G5 conferences each have their own app with exclusive content like live games that you can't watch anywhere else and a subscription is let's say $4.99 per month, suddenly it's important for conferences to be made up of schools with lots of fans who are willing to buy that subscription to see their team play which is good news for schools with established fan bases and bad news for start ups. I could also see a scenario where ESPN strikes a deal with conferences where if you buy a slightly inflated subscription to ESPN's app, you get so-and-so conference's content for free as well.

(09-28-2017 06:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

No...but on traditional cable/broadcast tv there is at least the opportunity for a mass audience. The trouble with streaming is that streaming is a niche on demand audience. You need to be looking for a specific game at a specific time to find it---and under this model---you'll also likely need to be willing to pay for it. That's not a recipe for developing and growing a fan base.

(09-28-2017 07:17 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 06:24 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  What people are failing to take into account is the traditional cable companies will update their streaming capabilities. Direct TV offers Direct TV Now; it only makes sense that fiber companies will cut their own cable business and offer all previous cable options via the internet rather than via cable subscriptions. Will improve margins by reducing investment in hardware and should allow for better pricing. I'm not convinced that streaming via Yahoo!, Facebook, and any other service is a viable alternative to what traditional TV offerings are.

I don't think any of this Twitter and Facebook streaming is going to take off, but I also don't think that cable companies (at least as we know them today) will last either. Originally, networks negotiated deals with cable companies to be part of their package and cable companies in turn marketed and sold their subscriptions to the consumer as kind of a middle man. Now that every channel has an app that you can stream content from, those middle men are needed less and less since whoever wanted to watch your programming could just come straight to you instead of buying a package with you included.

Every channel, network, and entity will have its own app including the sun belt. Right now, on most apps like ABC, NBC, CBS, HBO, etc you have to have a cable subscription to access their content, but I believe soon these networks will start making everything personal subscription based similar to Netflix, HBO, and Hulu.

So if G5 conferences each have their own app with exclusive content like live games that you can't watch anywhere else and a subscription is let's say $4.99 per month, suddenly it's important for conferences to be made up of schools with lots of fans who are willing to buy that subscription to see their team play which is good news for schools with established fan bases and bad news for start ups. I could also see a scenario where ESPN strikes a deal with conferences where if you buy a slightly inflated subscription to ESPN's app, you get so-and-so conference's content for free as well.

Hulu was created by, and is joint-owned by NBC, Fox and ABC if I'm not mistaken. So that is their streaming venture.

I stream all of my television.

(09-28-2017 06:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

Its pretty obvious what the answer is, but they need to work on monetizing the streams and such before they can 100% work. Also there will be some teams who refuse to be in conferences with regional opponents that ruin it for everyone else.

(09-28-2017 08:36 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  I stream all of my television.

I do too. I use an antenna for the local networks, Netflix, Hulu, and Sling. Those services add up to less than the cost of cable or satellite.

(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

Like there is with traditional TV? If individual schools control their own feeds at least the dollars that are available won't have to be shared with non producers in a given sport.

(09-28-2017 06:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

The biggest problem I see with your idea is that there is more than regionality and football to take into account when considering conference alignment preferences.

A major consideration has to be men's basketball. For instance, I like being aligned with UAB more for their MBB than I do for their football or regionality.

Another major consideration is the number of schools in each particular state. Alabama has UAB, Troy, and USA. Louisiana has La Tech, ULL, and ULM. This puts our six institutions in a different position than schools like App St, USM, MT, Marshall, ODU, and Ark St. Those of us with other in-state schools in one of our two conferences have to compete with those in-state schools for everything from state funding, to recruits and fan support. Conference differentiation is one means of establishing some separation from the competition. Any businessman knows how important this is in promoting his brand.

I'm not totally against some sort of regional realignment, but it won't be as cut and dried as you think. There will be some definite winners, and some definite losers if it ever happens.

(09-29-2017 04:48 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 06:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

The biggest problem I see with your idea is that there is more than regionality and football to take into account when considering conference alignment preferences.

A major consideration has to be men's basketball. For instance, I like being aligned with UAB more for their MBB than I do for their football or regionality.

Another major consideration is the number of schools in each particular state. Alabama has UAB, Troy, and USA. Louisiana has La Tech, ULL, and ULM. This puts our six institutions in a different position than schools like App St, USM, MT, Marshall, ODU, and Ark St. Those of us with other in-state schools in one of our two conferences have to compete with those in-state schools for everything from state funding, to recruits and fan support. Conference differentiation is one means of establishing some separation from the competition. Any businessman knows how important this is in promoting his brand.

I'm not totally against some sort of regional realignment, but it won't be as cut and dried as you think. There will be some definite winners, and some definite losers if it ever happens.

We have two other G5 schools in our state as well.