Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

Jimmy Kimmel?

You mean that well off millionaire left wing commedianne with a history of supporting progressive causes who makes fun of conservative Americans at any chance he get so that he makes sure his Bartman virtue signal is seen in the clouds aboove Lala land?

That Jimmy Kimmel?

(09-20-2017 09:29 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Jimmy Kimmel?

You mean that well off millionaire left wing commedianne with a history of supporting progressive causes who makes fun of conservative Americans at any chance he get so that he makes sure his Bartman virtue signal is seen in the clouds aboove Lala land?

That Jimmy Kimmel?

Yep that's the one. Care to comment on the thread?

Anything that ends up with less people being covered (even if it's of their own volition) is going to be framed by alt-leftists as "cuts", even though there are explicit guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions in the bill.

Quote:Bill Cassidy responds to Jimmy Kimmel: Obamacare overhaul 'absolutely' protects pre-existing condition patients

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bill-c...le/2635010

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel

lol

(09-20-2017 09:48 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Anything that ends up with less people being covered (even if it's of their own volition) is going to be framed by alt-leftists as "cuts", even though there are explicit guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions in the bill.

Quote:Bill Cassidy responds to Jimmy Kimmel: Obamacare overhaul 'absolutely' protects pre-existing condition patients

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bill-c...le/2635010

Not only that, less people covered likely means rate increases to cover the short fall.

Since money is all that some people care about.

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

You talk'n one of the "Late Night/White Night" guys who are here to save us?

(09-20-2017 09:34 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yep that's the one. Care to comment on the thread?

If I wanted to be scolded I'd have voted for Hillary ;.)

I don't put much stock in his egotistical public flaunting of his personal views. Or are you expecting a late night commedianne with a known grudge against flyover Americans who don't use Twitter to virtue signal their coastal progressive bonefides to suddenly convince me that This Changes Everything and History Will Never Be the Same Again?

Governing well to send left coast limousine liberals into fits of alcohol fueled rage (of which Jimmy is well know for) will be the best revenge ;.)

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

How would those numbers compare to the status prior to ObamaCare?

(09-20-2017 10:16 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:34 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yep that's the one. Care to comment on the thread?

If I wanted to be scolded I'd have voted for Hillary ;.)

I don't put much stock in his egotistical public flaunting of his personal views. Or are you expecting a late night commedianne with a known grudge against flyover Americans who don't use Twitter to virtue signal their coastal progressive bonefides to suddenly convince me that This Changes Everything and History Will Never Be the Same Again?

Governing well to send left coast limousine liberals into fits of alcohol fueled rage (of which Jimmy is well know for) will be the best revenge ;.)

I was hoping to get your comments on whether or not Cassidy is lying.

(09-20-2017 09:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:48 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Anything that ends up with less people being covered (even if it's of their own volition) is going to be framed by alt-leftists as "cuts", even though there are explicit guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions in the bill.

Quote:Bill Cassidy responds to Jimmy Kimmel: Obamacare overhaul 'absolutely' protects pre-existing condition patients

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bill-c...le/2635010

Not only that, less people covered likely means rate increases to cover the short fall.

Since money is all that some people care about.

I don't know. I think most people care about others -- in a hierarchy.

I want what's best for my wife, children, grandchildren.

You should want what's best for yours.

And what's best would be that they are able to provide for themselves and not unduly burden others.

By providing for themselves they consequently free up resources that could be used to help the truly needy.

But, you know, collectivism.

(09-20-2017 10:44 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

How would those numbers compare to the status prior to ObamaCare?

That is a good question. Would you be okay with simply repealing Obamacare and going back to the way things were before the Affordable Care Act?

(09-20-2017 10:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 10:44 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

How would those numbers compare to the status prior to ObamaCare?

That is a good question. Would you be okay with simply repealing Obamacare and going back to the way things were before the Affordable Care Act?

Personally? Yes.

My cadillac plan was destroyed. I'm one of the millions that ObamaCare hit hard. I have insurance (with higher premiums, higher copays and higher deductibles) but can't afford to use it.

So, yes -- PLEASE go back to the way it was before -- if that's all we can get.

However, I would also be OK with reform measures such as being able to purchase plans across state lines and to select the coverage I choose.

Also, I'd be OK with changes to punish frivolous lawsuits.

I'm sure there are some other measures we could toss in.

poor Jimmy Kimmel... make a name for himself... using his sickly child to do so. Kimmel defines douchebag

(09-20-2017 10:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 10:16 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:34 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yep that's the one. Care to comment on the thread?

If I wanted to be scolded I'd have voted for Hillary ;.)

I don't put much stock in his egotistical public flaunting of his personal views. Or are you expecting a late night commedianne with a known grudge against flyover Americans who don't use Twitter to virtue signal their coastal progressive bonefides to suddenly convince me that This Changes Everything and History Will Never Be the Same Again?

Governing well to send left coast limousine liberals into fits of alcohol fueled rage (of which Jimmy is well know for) will be the best revenge ;.)

I was hoping to get your comments on whether or not Cassidy is lying.

Why bring up the White Knight/Late Night comedian then? I'm sure he employs minorities to write jokes for him. I wonder what their healthcare program is and if he supplements that in any way because he is rich? You could have named any of the late night/ White Knight hosts that are here to save us. Why just mention Kibble?

(09-20-2017 10:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 10:44 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

How would those numbers compare to the status prior to ObamaCare?

That is a good question. Would you be okay with simply repealing Obamacare and going back to the way things were before the Affordable Care Act?

hell yes

Has it even been scored yet? How anyone can stick up for this travesty is beyond me.

(09-20-2017 10:47 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:48 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Anything that ends up with less people being covered (even if it's of their own volition) is going to be framed by alt-leftists as "cuts", even though there are explicit guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions in the bill.

Quote:Bill Cassidy responds to Jimmy Kimmel: Obamacare overhaul 'absolutely' protects pre-existing condition patients

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bill-c...le/2635010

Not only that, less people covered likely means rate increases to cover the short fall.

Since money is all that some people care about.

I don't know. I think most people care about others -- in a hierarchy.

I want what's best for my wife, children, grandchildren.

You should want what's best for yours.

And what's best would be that they are able to provide for themselves and not unduly burden others.

By providing for themselves they consequently free up resources that could be used to help the truly needy.

But, you know, collectivism.

I see what you are saying but I don't think you see the bigger picture.

Just like you I care first for my family. But I also understand that people who don't have healthcare ultimately become ill of preventable diseases.

Conservatives like to say there is no such thing as a free lunch. So I ask you, who pays for those hospital services when people without health insurance gets sick of something that could have been prevented?

So even if we only care about our own family, wanting everyone to have health care actually is good for us because we keep people alive who can otherwise contribute to the Collectivism that is our country.

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

So you're taking the word of a second rate comedian and the spin from huff-huff post?

Have you done any independent research/reading on this? Any thoughts why Paul is against this plan?

Do you know where some 40% of ALL the zerOcare monies go now?

Do you know that all the subsidies in the world can't buy folks a plan if no one is offering a plan to buy?

Do you know that if a State is going to accept any of the federal block grants from this plan, they HAVE to have a pool that accepts pre-existing conditions?

Do you know that currently under zerOcare some 20-40% of the money dumped into this boondoggle never makes it out of DeeCee and is consumed by the bloated bureaucracy running your health insurance delivery system?

And those are just the high points.

(09-20-2017 12:37 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel rained criticism on Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) on Tuesday night over the Republican’s role in the revival of an Obamacare repeal bill currently making its way through the Senate.

Cassidy and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) are co-sponsors of a measure that would end the Affordable Care Act, putting in its place a new coverage scheme featuring fewer rules on how insurers act ― and less money to help people get coverage. Those changes, combined with additional cuts to the traditional Medicaid program, would leave millions of people without insurance either because they couldn’t afford it or because they had pre-existing medical conditions.

Linkypoo


I don't think people realize that if the republicans are successful in repeal and replacing Obamacare, what they end up with will be worse for most.

So you're taking the word of a second comedian and the spin from huff-huff post?

Have you done any independent research/reading on this? Any thoughts why Paul is against this plan?

Do you know where some 40% of ALL the zerOcare monies go now?

Do you know that all the subsidies in the world can't buy folks a plan if no one is offering a plan to buy?

Do you know that if a State is going to accept any of the federal block grants from this plan, they HAVE to have a pool that accepts pre-existing conditions?

Do you know that currently under zerOcare some 20-40% of the money dumped into this boondoggle never makes it out of DeeCee and is consumed by the bloated bureaucracy running your health insurance delivery system?

And those are just the high points.

Please don't quote facts to the socialists Bernie Bros...