(08-31-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, actually that he's profiting personally and/or politically on the backs of the loss of 31 Americans, so far.

Well, what hat could he have worn that would have saved them?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/t...index.html

Quote:Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has activated the entire Texas National Guard, which is made up of roughly 12,000 troops.
State, local and military rescue units have plucked thousands of stranded residents from the water and deluged homes.

Quote:Two US Navy warships, the USS Kearsarge and the USS Oak Hill, are being deployed to Texas, the Navy announced Wednesday.
The Kearsarge, an amphibious assault ship, was in the Atlantic Ocean for training, but returned to Norfolk on Tuesday to load up with disaster relief supplies like water and food, and a unit of Marines, before departing for Texas on Thursday.

The Oak Hill, a smaller dock landing ship, will bring supplies and join the Kearsarge in supporting "federal, state and local authorities ongoing relief efforts in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey," according to the Navy.
Air Force and Navy helicopters began flying rescue missions in Texas on Monday night, according to a US defense official, marking the first use of active duty military assets in the hurricane rescue efforts. The helicopters used included six Navy MH-60s and three Air Force HH-60 rotary wing aircraft.
On Tuesday, US Northern Command deployed nine search-and-rescue helicopters, two fixed-wing aircraft and pararescue teams to Joint Reserve Base, Fort Worth. These teams have been actively assisting in rescue operations.

Quote:More than three dozen additional aircraft have been identified for use in rescue operations if the state asks for additional help.

A US Navy P-8 surveillance airplane flew its first mission on Tuesday night to provide imagery to FEMA of the impact area, according to a defense official.

When used in combat zones the aircraft provides high resolution imagery, reconnaissance and surveillance data. But in civilian emergencies such as the Texas flood, the focus is on assessing widespread areas for rescue and recovery.

Quote:The US Coast Guard has 39 helicopters and seven airplanes stationed at two operating bases in New Orleans and Houston available for rescue response efforts in Texas and Louisiana, according to a tweet from the service on Tuesday.

Quote:The US Marine Corps is deploying 690 US Marines aboard the USS Kearsarge and the USS Oak Hill set to sail on Thursday, according to a US Marine Corps official. The official said the Marines will be from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, II Marine Expeditionary Force Marine Expeditionary Force and will assist in support efforts.

The official said additional aviation assets will include: eight MV-22B Ospreys, three CH-53E Super Stallions and three UH-1Y Hueys. In addition to the air assets, the Marines will also have water purification and storage capability.

Reserve Marines from various units in Texas are supporting FEMA, state and local response efforts, according to a statement from the service on Wednesday.

Quote:More than 100 2.5-ton US Army trucks capable of moving in high water were sent to flooded areas of Houston from Fort Hood on Tuesday, according to a US defense official. The trucks will be used in flooded areas to help rescue and move people through high water.

The Pentagon's Defense Logistics Agency is also providing 450,000 gallons of diesel and 50,000 gallons of gas that is expected to arrive at Fort Hood on Wednesday, according to a statement from US Northern Command on Tuesday.

This isn't even the complete list. I know that aircraft and personnel from the 2nd Battalion 151st Aviation unit of the SC National Guard that are assigned to the SC Helicopter Aquatic Rescue Team (HART) are there. The SCHART is a joint effort between the SCNG and SC Task Force 1, our urban search and rescue team made up of staff from all over the state.

What countries are rushing to aid Texas. We help clean up every disaster in the effing world. Where are our allies. We should cut them all off until Texas is ok.

She must be related to the Clintons. Always finding a way to put money in her pocket.

(08-31-2017 12:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  What countries are rushing to aid Texas. We help clean up every disaster in the effing world. Where are our allies. We should cut them all off until Texas is ok.

Venezuela?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-storm-h...BA27Z?il=0

Citgo, owned by Venezuela, is a major employer in the Houston area.

(08-31-2017 12:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  What countries are rushing to aid Texas. We help clean up every disaster in the effing world. Where are our allies. We should cut them all off until Texas is ok.

Actually, I saw on the news this morning that Mexico has offered to help.

(08-31-2017 12:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  What countries are rushing to aid Texas. We help clean up every disaster in the effing world. Where are our allies. We should cut them all off until Texas is ok.

Mexico. I guess its ok that the wall isn't built quite yet.

I would imagine Canada will provide some assistance as well.

I'd like to see Israel send some help too...how much do we give them every year?

I think a lot of countries probably offer some assistance, donate to charitable groups so they can buy food, water, medicine, whatever.

Gas prices here in dallas ft worth are up almost a dollar a gallon. There is a panic going on and a rush on gas and long lines reminiscent of the '70s gas crisis. Several stations are out of gas.

I'm glad I topped off Friday and I'm still thinking there should be plenty of fuel and back to normal lines next week although I expect prices to remain high for a while.

(08-30-2017 05:55 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This puts the flooding into perspective. This is apparently Interstate 10 at the Jefferson/Chambers county line. White caps. Wow.

See the video of the concrete barriers on the south bound I-69 bridge over the San Jacinto River being moved 20 feet by the rushing water?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...616930001/

Yep! Amazing the power of water.

(08-31-2017 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 05:55 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This puts the flooding into perspective. This is apparently Interstate 10 at the Jefferson/Chambers county line. White caps. Wow.

See the video of the concrete barriers on the south bound I-69 bridge over the San Jacinto River being moved 20 feet by the rushing water?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...616930001/

Yep! Amazing the power of water.

During the October 2015 flooding here there was one spot along a major creek where the floodwaters moved a boulder the size of a box truck over half a mile downstream.

(08-31-2017 01:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 05:55 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This puts the flooding into perspective. This is apparently Interstate 10 at the Jefferson/Chambers county line. White caps. Wow.

See the video of the concrete barriers on the south bound I-69 bridge over the San Jacinto River being moved 20 feet by the rushing water?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...616930001/

Yep! Amazing the power of water.

During the October 2015 flooding here there was one spot along a major creek where the floodwaters moved a boulder the size of a box truck over half a mile downstream.

That is frankly pretty amazing.

(08-31-2017 01:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  During the October 2015 flooding here there was one spot along a major creek where the floodwaters moved a boulder the size of a box truck over half a mile downstream.

That is frankly pretty amazing.
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Granted, it was just a couple hundred feet downstream from a pond dam that busted and the creek it moved down is normally 6'-8' deep in all but the hardest droughts...but yeah, it was amazing and one of the first things I noticed when I went to check out what was once one of my favorite fishing spots (the pond).

It possibly would have went further but it got lodged against another rock outcropping and actually caused the creek bed to move about 20 feet. Right now it's still in the water but I imagine over time as sediment gets deposited that it'll be high and dry.

People don't realize how much power moving water has, and in the case with these barriers and the rock in my post we are talking about unimaginable force.

(08-31-2017 12:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, actually that he's profiting personally and/or politically on the backs of the loss of 31 Americans, so far.

Well, what hat could he have worn that would have saved them?

The pettiness, overreach and pure hyperbole of the left on this issue is glaring. It's hat...nothing else. Damn.

(08-31-2017 02:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 12:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, actually that he's profiting personally and/or politically on the backs of the loss of 31 Americans, so far.

Well, what hat could he have worn that would have saved them?

The pettiness, overreach and pure hyperbole of the left on this issue is glaring. It's hat...nothing else. Damn.

Yes, but it's unethical plain and simple. The presidency should not be a marketing gimmick...especially during a national disaster. At least it was before this clown came on the scene.

And you cannot deny that the right would be raising holy hell if this was Hillary doing the exact same thing.

(08-31-2017 02:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 02:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 12:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, actually that he's profiting personally and/or politically on the backs of the loss of 31 Americans, so far.

Well, what hat could he have worn that would have saved them?

The pettiness, overreach and pure hyperbole of the left on this issue is glaring. It's hat...nothing else. Damn.

Yes, but it's unethical plain and simple. The presidency should not be a marketing gimmick...especially during a national disaster. At least it was before this clown came on the scene.

And you cannot deny that the right would be raising holy hell if this was Hillary doing the exact same thing.

We will just have to disagree that it is some sinister marketing ploy. I just don't buy that. You are giving Trump too much credit for even thinking of doing that.

Id be laughing at Hillary in a ball cap...nothing else.

(08-31-2017 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 05:55 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 10:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This puts the flooding into perspective. This is apparently Interstate 10 at the Jefferson/Chambers county line. White caps. Wow.

See the video of the concrete barriers on the south bound I-69 bridge over the San Jacinto River being moved 20 feet by the rushing water?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...616930001/

Yep! Amazing the power of water.

Now THAT looks like a legit Joisey Wall.

Damn that's amazing.

(08-31-2017 02:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 02:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 12:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-31-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, actually that he's profiting personally and/or politically on the backs of the loss of 31 Americans, so far.

Well, what hat could he have worn that would have saved them?

The pettiness, overreach and pure hyperbole of the left on this issue is glaring. It's hat...nothing else. Damn.

Yes, but it's unethical plain and simple. The presidency should not be a marketing gimmick...especially during a national disaster. At least it was before this clown came on the scene.

And you cannot deny that the right would be raising holy hell if this was Hillary doing the exact same thing.

A hat.

A USA hat.

That's what you got? A hat?

I'll ask again, should he have donned his USSR hat his BFF Pootey-poot most likely gave him? it says USA. What should it have said? Caterpillar? Then the pearl-clutching freaks would have griped about that.

As far as H> wearing a hat? She's welcome to wear whatever the heck should wants, in the privacy of her own private residence.

I'd suggest one that simply says L

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...ef-efforts

Quote:President Trump plans to donate $1 million for victims of the historic floods and rains that have devastated the Gulf region, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Thursday.

Trump has not finalized what group the money will go to, and the White House said it would solicit ideas from the press corps, taking a dig at those who have fervently researched and questioned past donations Trump has made or claimed to make.

“He's actually asked that I check with the folks in this room since you are very good at research and have been doing a lot of reporting into the groups and organizations that have the best and most effective in helping and providing aid and he would love some suggestions from the folks here and I would be happy to take them,” Sanders said in the White House press briefing room.


Sanders said she was unsure whether the donation would come from the president directly or the Trump Foundation.

Quote:Trump and first lady Melania Trump will visit Texas and Louisiana on Saturday, Sanders said, the pair's second trip to the region since Hurricane Harvey made landfall on Friday as a Category 4 storm. It has since been downgraded to a tropical depression as it moves into Louisiana.

That'll be two more trips than Obama made to SC in 2015 or 2016