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The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a Facebook post from Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, D-University City, in which she stated: "I hope Trump is assassinated!"

I believe this is an example of speech that is not protected and is this illegal?

what a dumb ass *****... excuse my French.

(08-17-2017 02:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-...e=comments

The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a Facebook post from Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, D-University City, in which she stated: "I hope Trump is assassinated!"

I believe this is an example of speech that is not protected and is this illegal?

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

This cannot be true as we are constantly told that there are no hateful crazy people on the left. If I don't hear about this on CNN or MSNBC then I'll know it's not true.

In before, "I was hacked."

(08-17-2017 02:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 02:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-...e=comments

The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a Facebook post from Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, D-University City, in which she stated: "I hope Trump is assassinated!"

I believe this is an example of speech that is not protected and is this illegal?

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

I'd say lock her her butt up but this doesn't appear to be a threat, but rather a hope of hers. I'm not sure, as written, that this adheres to the requirements of the above. I do wish she had actually made a threat though.

(08-17-2017 02:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-...e=comments

The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a Facebook post from Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, D-University City, in which she stated: "I hope Trump is assassinated!"

I believe this is an example of speech that is not protected and is this illegal?

Trust me.. this woman is a nutcase of the worst kind and she gets away with the most racist and vile statements because basically the Republicans wont' run a candidate against her in this area.

(08-17-2017 02:55 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 02:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-...e=comments

The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a Facebook post from Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, D-University City, in which she stated: "I hope Trump is assassinated!"

I believe this is an example of speech that is not protected and is this illegal?

Trust me.. this woman is a nutcase of the worst kind and she gets away with the most racist and vile statements because basically the Republicans wont' run a candidate against her in this area.

I saw a lot of that in the comments section.

She should be reprimanded in some way.

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

Life will reprimand her.

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

how Fit, should she be reprimanded for publically wishing for someone to assassinate the President of the United States?

please enlighten me

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

She'll get a slap on the wrist from our state senate, Fit.. and then she'll go right back to doing it again. She can't help herself.

She even told Jay Nixon during the Ferguson riots to go "F himself" when Nixon asked for calm. (before he called in the Nat'l Guard).

She declared a "race war" was officially on after the Not Guilty Verdict of Officer Wilson.

She has promoted violence against White St. Louis residents and "promised" no punishment to the blacks who did it.

She promised a "bountY' against someone who criticized her at some point. (though she changed that bounty to a "bounty for information").

She accused White St. Louisian and white Missourians of being "#whiteprivildged"

Trust me.. this woman is egging on for a spot in the national DNC at some point.


Unfortuantely, we had a ton of decent Republican candidates in other State Senatorial races last election (and even some blue-dog Democrats show up in other primaries), but NOT one Republican could get the state party to get their name in The University City race.

(08-17-2017 03:20 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

how Fit, should she be reprimanded for publically wishing for someone to assassinate the President of the United States?

please enlighten me

At the very least her fellow legislators should strongly condemn her statement and the MO legislative body should censure her for her remarks.

(08-17-2017 03:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

She'll get a slap on the wrist from our state senate, Fit.. and then she'll go right back to doing it again. She can't help herself.

She even told Jay Nixon during the Ferguson riots to go "F himself" when Nixon asked for calm. (before he called in the Nat'l Guard).

She declared a "race war" was officially on after the Not Guilty Verdict of Officer Wilson.

She has promoted violence against White St. Louis residents and "promised" no punishment to the blacks who did it.

She promised a "bountY' against someone who criticized her at some point. (though she changed that bounty to a "bounty for information").

She accused White St. Louisian and white Missourians of being "#whiteprivildged"

Trust me.. this woman is egging on for a spot in the national DNC at some point.


Unfortuantely, we had a ton of decent Republican candidates in other State Senatorial races last election (and even some blue-dog Democrats show up in other primaries), but NOT one Republican could get the state party to get their name in The University City race.

I certainly don't agree with her statements but how many of those statements are actually against the law?

She has 1st amendment rights too doesn't she?

(08-17-2017 03:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

She'll get a slap on the wrist from our state senate, Fit.. and then she'll go right back to doing it again. She can't help herself.

She even told Jay Nixon during the Ferguson riots to go "F himself" when Nixon asked for calm. (before he called in the Nat'l Guard).

She declared a "race war" was officially on after the Not Guilty Verdict of Officer Wilson.

She has promoted violence against White St. Louis residents and "promised" no punishment to the blacks who did it.

She promised a "bountY' against someone who criticized her at some point. (though she changed that bounty to a "bounty for information").

She accused White St. Louisian and white Missourians of being "#whiteprivildged"

Trust me.. this woman is egging on for a spot in the national DNC at some point.


Unfortuantely, we had a ton of decent Republican candidates in other State Senatorial races last election (and even some blue-dog Democrats show up in other primaries), but NOT one Republican could get the state party to get their name in The University City race.

There are still blue-dogs? I thought they went extinct. I've voted for, and would likely vote again, for blue-dogs in the past, especially over some who pass themselves off as conservative republicans.

(08-17-2017 03:20 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

how Fit, should she be reprimanded for publically wishing for someone to assassinate the President of the United States?

please enlighten me

I think there are a set of ethics that government officials have to abide by. She may have not broken the law but usually, elected officials have to abide by a code of ethics NO?

(08-17-2017 03:25 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  There are still blue-dogs? I thought they went extinct. I've voted for, and would likely vote again, for blue-dogs in the past, especially over some who pass themselves off as conservative republicans.

In Missouri, Tiger.. there are a lot more than you'd think. Problem is that it's the hardcore lefties that get all the attention (that and the corrupt political families.. but even after living in Missouri as long as I have, I still dont' understand them - I just know the Carnahans were one of those families.).

But if you step outside of St. Louis and Kansas City, you'd find as many if not more conservative democrats than you would hard-core leftists. In city limits however, they don't exist.

That's why KC and St. Louis always try to make sure they get the final word... "It doesn't matter what the rest of Missouri thinks, its' what happens in our two cities that count".

(08-17-2017 03:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

She'll get a slap on the wrist from our state senate, Fit.. and then she'll go right back to doing it again. She can't help herself.

She even told Jay Nixon during the Ferguson riots to go "F himself" when Nixon asked for calm. (before he called in the Nat'l Guard).

She declared a "race war" was officially on after the Not Guilty Verdict of Officer Wilson.

She has promoted violence against White St. Louis residents and "promised" no punishment to the blacks who did it.

She promised a "bountY' against someone who criticized her at some point. (though she changed that bounty to a "bounty for information").

She accused White St. Louisian and white Missourians of being "#whiteprivildged"

Trust me.. this woman is egging on for a spot in the national DNC at some point.

I certainly don't agree with her statements but how many of those statements are actually against the law?

She has 1st amendment rights too doesn't she?

Not when she's speaking as a state senator, especially the two in bold... If she were speaking as a private citizen, then I'd say she can say what she wants.. But she's supposed to speaking for the residents of her district

(08-17-2017 03:30 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 03:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She should be reprimanded in some way.

She'll get a slap on the wrist from our state senate, Fit.. and then she'll go right back to doing it again. She can't help herself.

She even told Jay Nixon during the Ferguson riots to go "F himself" when Nixon asked for calm. (before he called in the Nat'l Guard).

She declared a "race war" was officially on after the Not Guilty Verdict of Officer Wilson.

She has promoted violence against White St. Louis residents and "promised" no punishment to the blacks who did it.

She promised a "bountY' against someone who criticized her at some point. (though she changed that bounty to a "bounty for information").

She accused White St. Louisian and white Missourians of being "#whiteprivildged"

Trust me.. this woman is egging on for a spot in the national DNC at some point.

I certainly don't agree with her statements but how many of those statements are actually against the law?

She has 1st amendment rights too doesn't she?

Not when she's speaking as a state senator, especially the two in bold... If she were speaking as a private citizen, then I'd say she can say what she wants.. But she's supposed to speaking for the residents of her district

Maybe you should tell the President.

(08-17-2017 02:01 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  what a dumb ass *****... excuse my French.

On about 12 different levels.

"Hey!, this seems like a good idea for an elected official to post on the Bookface, let me tap this out right quick".

Give her 6 months for unnecessary, excessive stupidity.