If I were in charge of the coaching search at Ole Miss, I'd definitely have already placed calls to both Les Miles and Chip Kelly. Not saying they'd be interested or that Ole Miss could pay them enough to take over that dumpster fire but either one could be a great hire.

(07-22-2017 11:22 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:12 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm some crazy future where ole miss tries for another astate coach, there would be people in Jonesboro who would push hard for freeze to get the job here again. He remains popular here in some circles.

Thankfully Mohajir is much smarter than that.

I'd hire malzahn back in a heartbeat though

TM is smart enough to know a winner. Bring him back!

Good Lord.....what a dumb suggestion.


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As usual in these situations, Freeze will sit a year or maybe work in a small out of the way place until some time passes and an AD has the guts to hire him. He will build some program into a monster. I say cut out the wait time and build it now should we have an opening.

(07-22-2017 02:15 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:22 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:12 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm some crazy future where ole miss tries for another astate coach, there would be people in Jonesboro who would push hard for freeze to get the job here again. He remains popular here in some circles.

Thankfully Mohajir is much smarter than that.

I'd hire malzahn back in a heartbeat though

TM is smart enough to know a winner. Bring him back!

Good Lord.....what a dumb suggestion.


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As usual in these situations, Freeze will sit a year or maybe work in a small out of the way place until some time passes and an AD has the guts to hire him. He will build some program into a monster. I say cut out the wait time and build it now should we have an opening.

He will be lucky to coach in college again.


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(07-22-2017 02:25 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:15 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:22 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:12 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm some crazy future where ole miss tries for another astate coach, there would be people in Jonesboro who would push hard for freeze to get the job here again. He remains popular here in some circles.

Thankfully Mohajir is much smarter than that.

I'd hire malzahn back in a heartbeat though

TM is smart enough to know a winner. Bring him back!

Good Lord.....what a dumb suggestion.


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As usual in these situations, Freeze will sit a year or maybe work in a small out of the way place until some time passes and an AD has the guts to hire him. He will build some program into a monster. I say cut out the wait time and build it now should we have an opening.

He will be lucky to coach in college again.


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Absent the NCAA, how can you say that in light of the several coaches that have committed worst and is now back in the lime light. AD's want to win and coaches misgivings are soon forgotten.

(07-22-2017 04:01 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:25 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:15 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:22 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:12 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  TM is smart enough to know a winner. Bring him back!

Good Lord.....what a dumb suggestion.


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As usual in these situations, Freeze will sit a year or maybe work in a small out of the way place until some time passes and an AD has the guts to hire him. He will build some program into a monster. I say cut out the wait time and build it now should we have an opening.

He will be lucky to coach in college again.


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Absent the NCAA, how can you say that in light of the several coaches that have committed worst and is now back in the lime light. AD's want to win and coaches misgivings are soon forgotten.

Being ignorant to the NCAA rules, isn't it quite possible once the OM investigation is over and done with Freeze could end up on that 10-year freeze on NCAA employment? If so, I guess he would be welcomed by some NAIA power in the doldrums...or a job in one of the pro football leagues at least.

(07-22-2017 04:01 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:25 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:15 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:22 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:12 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  TM is smart enough to know a winner. Bring him back!

Good Lord.....what a dumb suggestion.


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As usual in these situations, Freeze will sit a year or maybe work in a small out of the way place until some time passes and an AD has the guts to hire him. He will build some program into a monster. I say cut out the wait time and build it now should we have an opening.

He will be lucky to coach in college again.


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Absent the NCAA, how can you say that in light of the several coaches that have committed worst and is now back in the lime light. AD's want to win and coaches misgivings are soon forgotten.

Because he’s going to wind up with a show cause.


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More fuel for the fire.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017...ugh-freeze

(07-22-2017 04:19 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 04:01 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:25 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 02:15 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 11:22 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  Good Lord.....what a dumb suggestion.


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As usual in these situations, Freeze will sit a year or maybe work in a small out of the way place until some time passes and an AD has the guts to hire him. He will build some program into a monster. I say cut out the wait time and build it now should we have an opening.

He will be lucky to coach in college again.


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Absent the NCAA, how can you say that in light of the several coaches that have committed worst and is now back in the lime light. AD's want to win and coaches misgivings are soon forgotten.

Being ignorant to the NCAA rules, isn't it quite possible once the OM investigation is over and done with Freeze could end up on that 10-year freeze on NCAA employment? If so, I guess he would be welcomed by some NAIA power in the doldrums...or a job in one of the pro football leagues at least.

That is why I said "Absent the NCAA". If he can't coach by order of the NCAA, no one will hire him. If he can be hired, his coaching absence will not be for long.

We can do better in many ways. Could you really trust him to lead your program. It seems he stabbed everyone while saying "look how holy I am". Hope he can straighten things out with his family but he never needs to be on our sideline.

So much for Chip Kelley...I'd forgotten all about this:

Show-cause penalty

Quote:Chip Kelly - A former head coach at Oregon who was most recently the head coach for the NFL's San Francisco 49ers. The penalties included three lost scholarships, probation for three years, and an 18-month show-cause against former HC Chip Kelly. The NCAA also reduced Oregon's official paid visits from 56 to 37 for the next three academic years, reduced its evaluation days for each of the next three seasons and banned the program from using recruiting services during the probation period. The NCAA had been looking into Oregon's recruiting practices since questions arose over a 2010 payment of $25,000 to Willie Lyles and his Houston-based recruiting service, Complete Scouting Services. The infractions committee found that Lyles provided cash and free lodging to Lache Seastrunk, a running back who eventually signed with Baylor, and engaged in impermissible calls and off-campus contact with prospects, their families and high school coaches. It also said the football program allowed staff members to engage in recruiting activity, exceeding coaching limits. At the time the sanctions were announced, Kelly had already left Oregon to become head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. He was fired from the Eagles after the 2015 season and the 49ers after the 2016 season. Kelly's show-cause expired on December 26, 2014.

I could see the natives getting restless over a hiring decision of this variety, especially under the specific circumstances. Kelly might be able to sweet-talk himself into another P5 HC gig but it might not be as easy as some think.

(07-22-2017 07:15 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  We can do better in many ways. Could you really trust him to lead your program. It seems he stabbed everyone while saying "look how holy I am". Hope he can straighten things out with his family but he never needs to be on our sideline.

Ha....no, but he could use the angle "I'm as screwed up as y'all are...." and relate on another level.

We could do a lot better, but I've seen us do a lot worse many times in the past 30 years.

(07-23-2017 05:03 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 07:15 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  We can do better in many ways. Could you really trust him to lead your program. It seems he stabbed everyone while saying "look how holy I am". Hope he can straighten things out with his family but he never needs to be on our sideline.

Ha....no, but he could use the angle "I'm as screwed up as y'all are...." and relate on another level.

We could do a lot better, but I've seen us do a lot worse many times in the past 30 years.

Just stop. He’s never welcome here again.


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(07-23-2017 05:09 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 05:03 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 07:15 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  We can do better in many ways. Could you really trust him to lead your program. It seems he stabbed everyone while saying "look how holy I am". Hope he can straighten things out with his family but he never needs to be on our sideline.

Ha....no, but he could use the angle "I'm as screwed up as y'all are...." and relate on another level.

We could do a lot better, but I've seen us do a lot worse many times in the past 30 years.

Just stop. He’s never welcome here again.


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Hugh is under heavy investigation from the NCAA and Ole Miss but at this point in time, we really do not know of any infraction committed by Freeze including the so called escort service call. Maybe he is guilty as hell and maybe he isn't. He left us to go to his first love at a price several times what we paid. Why so much hate considering he turned our program around and played a major role in getting Gus for us. I would think we would be a little more supportive until all the facts are known.

We have an established criteria for hiring new coaches and Freeze would no longer qualify.

As for Ole Miss, I think they are NUTS if they don't go for Satterfield.

He seems to be a Boy Scout but not an in your face all for Jesus 24/7 guy. Exactly what Ole Miss should look for.

He's a serious guy and not a snake oil salesman or rah-rah guy or gimmicky guy. Again...exactly what Ole Miss should look for.



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We have an established criteria for hiring new coaches and Freeze would no longer qualify.

As for Ole Miss, I think they are NUTS if they don't go for Satterfield.

He seems to be a Boy Scout but not an in your face all for Jesus 24/7 guy. Exactly what Ole Miss should look for.

He's a serious guy and not a snake oil salesman or rah-rah guy or gimmicky guy. Again...exactly what Ole Miss should look for.



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Please tell me what that new established criteria is for new coaches. You bring up the Jesus point. Is that the sticking point with so many State fans? To some extent, I get the feeling it as much too do with being a Jesus fan as it is being Hugh Freeze.

(07-23-2017 07:45 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  Please tell me what that new established criteria is for new coaches. You bring up the Jesus point. Is that the sticking point with so many State fans? To some extent, I get the feeling it as much too do with being a Jesus fan as it is being Hugh Freeze.

It's nothing "new" for A-State. An up-and-coming young offensive minded coach that is on the way up, not on the way down as a retread. That is not a "new" hiring philosophy for A-State. Hugh Freeze once fit that criteria....he no longer does. Does that clear it up?

As for the other.....there is no "sticking point for A-State fans" because you may have noticed that only the first paragraph was about A-State hiring....the following paragraphs were solely about Ole Miss hiring and what THEY should look for.

The reason why OLE MISS (not Arkansas State) should not go for a "Jesus guy" is obvious.....because THEY (not us) just fired a hypocritical one and THEY (not us) should not look for another to follow him in order to avoid people making unwanted associations between THEIR (not our) old coach and THEIR (not our) new coach....for OLE MISS. Hope that covers it.

Also...the reason why OLE MISS (not Arkansas State) should not go for a "rah-rah" type coach is because the last disaster of a head coach before this one was the biggest rah-rah coach of all time...Houston Nutt. They (being Ole Miss) should not want their new coach to remind fans of that association either.

Therefore. A person like Scott Satterfield.....who seems to have a moral character but does not say Jesus every other word...and maintains an even keel without going Hootie......would seem to fit the bill. IMO.

Glad you Ark. State guys think so highly of Satt. Anderson's personality fits the SEC West better though.

(07-23-2017 08:23 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  Glad you Ark. State guys think so highly of Satt. Anderson's personality fits the SEC West better though.

IMO they'd be foolish to take another A-State coach who is very public in religiosity to immediately follow another one.

Their two choices are, to me, Neal Brown and Satterfield. Of the two, Satterfield is more of the stolid/stoic personality that they need at this particular moment.

I'll go on record and say they'll not be hiring a coach out of the Sunbelt. The current' "interim" coach will coach this season and have the job unless they lose 6 games. If they do, they'll be shopping ACC coaches.

(07-23-2017 08:45 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  I'll go on record and say they'll not be hiring a coach out of the Sunbelt. The current' "interim" coach will coach this season and have the job unless they lose 6 games. If they do, they'll be shopping ACC coaches.

I'll be real surprised if they are able to entice any P5 coach unless the NCAA comes out and publicly cuts them a break.