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(07-19-2017 06:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  
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(07-17-2017 01:01 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  Jiya Wright made his commitment official on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jiya_football18?lang=en

He goes to the same High School that Zach Terrell of Western Michigan went to if that means anything.

Ft Wayne produces solid player's. Thomas Hammock came out of there.

That's great but I don't like the fact that our two QB commits in 2018 have two DIA offers between them cent mich and Ball state and a qb we offered who was rated higher then these guys commits toD1AA NDSU

we need to find a way to get more competitive with our recruiting and start landing kids who have other real offers especially at the qb spot in my opinion players win games not coaches ! Coaches need to get players period
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(07-20-2017 08:08 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 06:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 12:03 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 01:01 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  Jiya Wright made his commitment official on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jiya_football18?lang=en

He goes to the same High School that Zach Terrell of Western Michigan went to if that means anything.

Ft Wayne produces solid player's. Thomas Hammock came out of there.

That's great but I don't like the fact that our two QB commits in 2018 have two DIA offers between them cent mich and Ball state and a qb we offered who was rated higher then these guys commits toD1AA NDSU

we need to find a way to get more competitive with our recruiting and start landing kids who have other real offers especially at the qb spot in my opinion players win games not coaches ! Coaches need to get players period

Lynch and Harnish were rolling in D1 offers lol
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RE: 2018 Official Verbal Thread
(07-20-2017 08:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:08 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 06:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 12:03 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 01:01 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  Jiya Wright made his commitment official on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jiya_football18?lang=en

He goes to the same High School that Zach Terrell of Western Michigan went to if that means anything.

Ft Wayne produces solid player's. Thomas Hammock came out of there.

That's great but I don't like the fact that our two QB commits in 2018 have two DIA offers between them cent mich and Ball state and a qb we offered who was rated higher then these guys commits toD1AA NDSU

we need to find a way to get more competitive with our recruiting and start landing kids who have other real offers especially at the qb spot in my opinion players win games not coaches ! Coaches need to get players period

Lynch and Harnish were rolling in D1 offers lol

you are not going to hit that lottery very often if you don't get more highly recruited kids into the mix sorry that is just a fact. Why do you insist on being so anti and non believing of everything I have ever said on here my god

BTW lynch is the highest rated QB in NIU history at .8212 39 highest rated recruit ever and had no other offers as he committed before the summer of his JR year he was the 36 rated qb in the country we got him cause he was a local kid WTF do your homework I stand by my statement we need to compete for kids who have other real scholarships and are higher rated especially at the qb spot losing out to NDSU for a qb is sad LOL
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Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).
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(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.
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(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).
Rodney will not paly qb here if he does not improve his throwing ability
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RE: 2018 Official Verbal Thread
(07-20-2017 08:57 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).
Rodney will not paly qb here he can not throw the ball LOL

You really are the worst
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(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???
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RE: 2018 Official Verbal Thread
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer
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RE: 2018 Official Verbal Thread
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:57 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).
Rodney will not paly qb here he can not throw the ball LOL

You really are the worst

I should have said he wont play qb if his throwing ability does not greatly improve he might be a good player at a diff position unless he improves the arm mechanics a great deal
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(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer


Actually almost every single one of our starting QBs in the last decade plus only had 1 D1 offer from NIU

Haldi
Horvath
Nicholson
Harnish
Lynch
Hare
Graham

I'm sure I'm missing more too. Maddie is the only one I can think of who had more and he transferred in and only started a handful of games due to injury


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(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer

highest rated QB recruit at .8212 ever 39 highest rated player ever was the 39 ranked QB in the country he committed before his jr year summer that is why he was locked in to NIU
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(07-20-2017 09:03 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer


Actually almost every single one of our starting QBs in the last decade plus only had 1 D1 offer from NIU

Haldi
Horvath
Nicholson
Harnish
Lynch
Hare
Graham

I'm sure I'm missing more too. Maddie is the only one I can think of who had more and he transferred in and only started a handful of games due to injury


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you are making my point lynch was our highest rated QB ever and our best he did not have offers due to an extremely early commitment to NIU he was the 39 highest rated qb of his class in the country. Harnish was an outstanding under rated QB but what other outstanding QB is on your list I would say some decent ones but nothing close to Lynch or Harnish so with under Rated QB we found one in Harnish and I did not mention Lynch as he was highly rated just did have offers due to his early commitment
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(07-20-2017 09:11 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:03 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer


Actually almost every single one of our starting QBs in the last decade plus only had 1 D1 offer from NIU

Haldi
Horvath
Nicholson
Harnish
Lynch
Hare
Graham

I'm sure I'm missing more too. Maddie is the only one I can think of who had more and he transferred in and only started a handful of games due to injury


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you are making my point lynch was our highest rated QB ever and our best he did not have offers due to an extremely early commitment to NIU he was the 39 highest rated qb of his class in the country. Harnish was an outstanding under rated QB but what other outstanding QB is on your list I would say some decent ones but nothing close to Lynch or Harnish so with under Rated QB we found one in Harnish and I did not mention Lynch as he was highly rated just did have offers due to his early commitment


I hear you, but you also can't argue the fact that NIU has been a dynasty the last decade with those guys as well. 3 of them were in NFL camps and probably would have been 4 if not for Hare's injuries. It's not like Lynch was the only one who we had success with.


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(07-20-2017 09:17 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:11 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:03 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer


Actually almost every single one of our starting QBs in the last decade plus only had 1 D1 offer from NIU

Haldi
Horvath
Nicholson
Harnish
Lynch
Hare
Graham

I'm sure I'm missing more too. Maddie is the only one I can think of who had more and he transferred in and only started a handful of games due to injury


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you are making my point lynch was our highest rated QB ever and our best he did not have offers due to an extremely early commitment to NIU he was the 39 highest rated qb of his class in the country. Harnish was an outstanding under rated QB but what other outstanding QB is on your list I would say some decent ones but nothing close to Lynch or Harnish so with under Rated QB we found one in Harnish and I did not mention Lynch as he was highly rated just did have offers due to his early commitment


I hear you, but you also can't argue the fact that NIU has been a dynasty the last decade with those guys as well. 3 of them were in NFL camps and probably would have been 4 if not for Hare's injuries. It's not like Lynch was the only one who we had success with.


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That is true but I just think we are sitting with a kind of bare cupboard at QB and to see us lose out to NDSU for a qb rated higher than any we have in the 2018 class does not excite me and I think we should be able to out recruit the D1AA schools that's all just frustrated we cant solve and have some depth at QB
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(07-20-2017 09:25 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:17 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:11 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:03 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer


Actually almost every single one of our starting QBs in the last decade plus only had 1 D1 offer from NIU

Haldi
Horvath
Nicholson
Harnish
Lynch
Hare
Graham

I'm sure I'm missing more too. Maddie is the only one I can think of who had more and he transferred in and only started a handful of games due to injury


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you are making my point lynch was our highest rated QB ever and our best he did not have offers due to an extremely early commitment to NIU he was the 39 highest rated qb of his class in the country. Harnish was an outstanding under rated QB but what other outstanding QB is on your list I would say some decent ones but nothing close to Lynch or Harnish so with under Rated QB we found one in Harnish and I did not mention Lynch as he was highly rated just did have offers due to his early commitment


I hear you, but you also can't argue the fact that NIU has been a dynasty the last decade with those guys as well. 3 of them were in NFL camps and probably would have been 4 if not for Hare's injuries. It's not like Lynch was the only one who we had success with.


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That is true but I just think we are sitting with a kind of bare cupboard at QB and to see us lose out to NDSU for a qb rated higher than any we have in the 2018 class does not excite me and I think we should be able to out recruit the D1AA schools that's all just frustrated we cant solve and have some depth at QB

You can't win them all. Hall had more and better offers than Lance. But NIU should be doing better in the dual threat QB recruiting, I agree. This offense isn't pro-style friendly, so you lose half of the QB recruits right there. They just need to make more QB offers. Rarely do they make more than a few. Idk.
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(07-20-2017 09:04 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 09:00 AM)7 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:58 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:52 AM)armour248 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

NFL teams can't even figure out how to evaluate and project QB's. Trying to figure out which 17-18 year old high school players are going to continue developing and turn into great college QB's is nearly impossible. Especially when you're recruiting at the MAC level and essentially picking from 100+ somewhat similar players. Best chance is to pick the guy you think will fit your system best.

our highest rated QB ever Lynch is our best ever ???

What? Lynch had 1 division 1 offer

highest rated QB recruit at .8212 ever 39 highest rated player ever was the 39 ranked QB in the country he committed before his jr year summer that is why he was locked in to NIU

Lynch was not seen as a QB by D1. He even played S (under Lenti)when he played on US team in international tourney play even though he (and every other player) had committed since games were in summer. He had strong interest from some B10. Kill was one of the few who saw him at QB.

It's the Mt. Carmel QB syndrome that McNabb previously endured. Teams like UI,ND wanted "the athlete." AKA you aren't playing QB kid. Story even goes that Simeon Rice told him not to go to U of I. He also did pretty well though lol.
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(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

That year we offered Miles Osei from Prospect who committed and then flipped to UI. He is now Head Coach at Elk Grove HS. Grappolo was offered by Eastern and Western and now is Brady's heir apparent.
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(07-20-2017 11:36 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  
(07-20-2017 08:38 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Didn't that EIU QB from Arlington Heights nearly beat our Lynch-led 2013 team? Not sure how we missed Garappolo but it seems there are many players under the radar that turn out to be phenomenal QBs. Let's hope our staff have found future stars. (FYI - Rodney Hall was rated pretty high and had multiple D1 offers).

That year we offered Miles Osei from Prospect who committed and then flipped to UI. He is now Head Coach at Elk Grove HS. Grappolo was offered by Eastern and Western and now is Brady's heir apparent.

So, we grabbed the consensus best QB in the Mid Suburban League who then flipped so he could set a record for most Homecoming Games played in the Big Ten (non-Indiana division). Meanwhile, the second best kid in the conference ends up with the New England Patriots.

Huh. It's almost like nobody really has any idea at all how QBs project and develop.
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The whole country passed on Garoppolo. I would love to have had him , but would not trade the LYNCH era with an Orange Bowl trip for anything.
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