(07-19-2017 02:56 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The RDU tv market ends 8 miles from ECU's campus.

Lol


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(07-19-2017 03:15 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 02:56 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The RDU tv market ends 8 miles from ECU's campus.

Lol


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Not a joke. It literally does.

(07-19-2017 07:50 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:31 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  The WSU thread about being great for the board got me thinking about what they add numbers wise. I'm sure this has been discussed before but I quickly ranked the metro areas by population for each AAC school. I'm not saying each school delivers their market but it is their base. Interesting to note the two schools with loudest/most annoying/vocal fans come from the two smallest markets.....

AAC rank - metro area (metro pop, US metro rank)

1. SMU - DFW (7,200,000 4th)
2. UH - Houston (6,800,000 5th)
3. Temple - Philly (6,100,000 7th)
4. USF - Tampa (3,000,000 18th)
5. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (2,700,000 21st)
6. UCF - Orlando (2,500,000 23rd)
7. Cincy - Cincinnati (2,200,000 28th)
8. Memphis - Memphis (1,300,000 42nd)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (1,300,000 46th)
10. UConn - Hartford (1,200,000 47th)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (1,000,000 55th)
12. WSU - Wichita (600,000 87th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (200,000 236th)

Also, I included Annapolis in the Baltimore metro.

A more important marker is TV market. That is what brings in the money for a conference. However, I will say that the Orlando market can include Daytona Beach and Melbourne as that is where our local TV coverage extends. Tampa should probably include St Pete, Sarasota, and stretch into Polk County. I am sure there are others in similar circumstances. For whatever reason, the official numbers don't include them.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corpo...-ranks.pdf

1. Temple - Philly (2,942,800 4th)
2. SMU - DFW (2,713,380 5th)
3. UH - Houston (2,450,800 8th)
4. USF - Tampa (1,908,590 11th)
5. UCF - Orlando (1,519,570 18th)
6. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (1,119,480 26th)
7. UConn - Hartford (963,950 30th)
8. Cincy - Cincinnati (863,800 36th)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (641,620 50th)
10. Memphis - Memphis (633,930 51st)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (531,230 58th)
12. WSU - Wichita (439,760 66th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (301,990 100th)

I will suggest that the P5 like our markets and the AAC will always get good games for OOC compared to the G4.


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(07-19-2017 09:07 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:03 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:50 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:31 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  The WSU thread about being great for the board got me thinking about what they add numbers wise. I'm sure this has been discussed before but I quickly ranked the metro areas by population for each AAC school. I'm not saying each school delivers their market but it is their base. Interesting to note the two schools with loudest/most annoying/vocal fans come from the two smallest markets.....

AAC rank - metro area (metro pop, US metro rank)

1. SMU - DFW (7,200,000 4th)
2. UH - Houston (6,800,000 5th)
3. Temple - Philly (6,100,000 7th)
4. USF - Tampa (3,000,000 18th)
5. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (2,700,000 21st)
6. UCF - Orlando (2,500,000 23rd)
7. Cincy - Cincinnati (2,200,000 28th)
8. Memphis - Memphis (1,300,000 42nd)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (1,300,000 46th)
10. UConn - Hartford (1,200,000 47th)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (1,000,000 55th)
12. WSU - Wichita (600,000 87th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (200,000 236th)

Also, I included Annapolis in the Baltimore metro.

A more important marker is TV market. That is what brings in the money for a conference. However, I will say that the Orlando market can include Daytona Beach and Melbourne as that is where our local TV coverage extends. Tampa should probably include St Pete, Sarasota, and stretch into Polk County. I am sure there are others in similar circumstances. For whatever reason, the official numbers don't include them.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corpo...-ranks.pdf

1. Temple - Philly (2,942,800 4th)
2. SMU - DFW (2,713,380 5th)
3. UH - Houston (2,450,800 8th)
4. USF - Tampa (1,908,590 11th)
5. UCF - Orlando (1,519,570 18th)
6. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (1,119,480 26th)
7. UConn - Hartford (963,950 30th)
8. Cincy - Cincinnati (863,800 36th)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (641,620 50th)
10. Memphis - Memphis (633,930 51st)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (531,230 58th)
12. WSU - Wichita (439,760 66th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (301,990 100th)

I still say Jackson TN should be included in the Memphis TV market....ranked 176 with 89,970...It would bump Memphis over the 720k mark.

might as well include little rock

nah...they can keep it.

Little Rock is 140 miles from Memphis...Jackson TN is 64

Cincy is trying to get Dayton OH...if they get Dayton, I want Jackson.

(07-19-2017 08:27 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:48 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Markets don't mean anything in the post-cable era. It's all about fan base size.

Markets still mean everything.......delivering them is a different question.

Reminds me of A&M a school 2 hours away from a crappy tiny town claiming the Houston market... What a bunch of cracker heads

(07-19-2017 08:44 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:27 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:48 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Markets don't mean anything in the post-cable era. It's all about fan base size.

Markets still mean everything.......delivering them is a different question.

Reminds me of A&M a school 2 hours away from a crappy tiny town claiming the Houston market... What a bunch of cracker heads

I'm just glad our 2 Texan members reside in 2 of the best cities in that state.

(07-19-2017 07:48 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Markets don't mean anything in the post-cable era. It's all about fan base size.

So take the biggest schools in the country... There are several AAC schools that in the next 20 years will have more living alumni than crap schools in the P5. Think of the future.

(07-19-2017 08:50 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:44 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:27 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:48 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Markets don't mean anything in the post-cable era. It's all about fan base size.

Markets still mean everything.......delivering them is a different question.

Reminds me of A&M a school 2 hours away from a crappy tiny town claiming the Houston market... What a bunch of cracker heads

I'm just glad our 2 Texan members reside in 2 of the best cities in that state.

And I'm 100% convinced the AAC has everything to call itself a Power6

(07-19-2017 08:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:07 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:03 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:50 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:31 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  The WSU thread about being great for the board got me thinking about what they add numbers wise. I'm sure this has been discussed before but I quickly ranked the metro areas by population for each AAC school. I'm not saying each school delivers their market but it is their base. Interesting to note the two schools with loudest/most annoying/vocal fans come from the two smallest markets.....

AAC rank - metro area (metro pop, US metro rank)

1. SMU - DFW (7,200,000 4th)
2. UH - Houston (6,800,000 5th)
3. Temple - Philly (6,100,000 7th)
4. USF - Tampa (3,000,000 18th)
5. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (2,700,000 21st)
6. UCF - Orlando (2,500,000 23rd)
7. Cincy - Cincinnati (2,200,000 28th)
8. Memphis - Memphis (1,300,000 42nd)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (1,300,000 46th)
10. UConn - Hartford (1,200,000 47th)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (1,000,000 55th)
12. WSU - Wichita (600,000 87th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (200,000 236th)

Also, I included Annapolis in the Baltimore metro.

A more important marker is TV market. That is what brings in the money for a conference. However, I will say that the Orlando market can include Daytona Beach and Melbourne as that is where our local TV coverage extends. Tampa should probably include St Pete, Sarasota, and stretch into Polk County. I am sure there are others in similar circumstances. For whatever reason, the official numbers don't include them.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corpo...-ranks.pdf

1. Temple - Philly (2,942,800 4th)
2. SMU - DFW (2,713,380 5th)
3. UH - Houston (2,450,800 8th)
4. USF - Tampa (1,908,590 11th)
5. UCF - Orlando (1,519,570 18th)
6. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (1,119,480 26th)
7. UConn - Hartford (963,950 30th)
8. Cincy - Cincinnati (863,800 36th)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (641,620 50th)
10. Memphis - Memphis (633,930 51st)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (531,230 58th)
12. WSU - Wichita (439,760 66th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (301,990 100th)

I still say Jackson TN should be included in the Memphis TV market....ranked 176 with 89,970...It would bump Memphis over the 720k mark.

might as well include little rock

nah...they can keep it.

Little Rock is 140 miles from Memphis...Jackson TN is 64

Cincy is trying to get Dayton OH...if they get Dayton, I want Jackson.

shhhitttt, dayton's courtin' cincinnati

(07-19-2017 03:29 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 03:15 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 02:56 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The RDU tv market ends 8 miles from ECU's campus.

Lol


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Not a joke. It literally does.

Not sure why he's laughing.... The joke is TV markets and who gets to claim them. UNC, Duke, and NCSU can claim Farmville which is 8 miles from ECU, but ECU can't claim any traction in RDU where its largest concentration of alumni live.... Markets matter sure, but the influence is diminishing rapidly with streaming and a la carte TV. Ultimately its going to be about who gets people to buy the station and turn on the TV. Not just the arbitrary number of households in your market.

(07-19-2017 09:07 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:03 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:50 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:31 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  The WSU thread about being great for the board got me thinking about what they add numbers wise. I'm sure this has been discussed before but I quickly ranked the metro areas by population for each AAC school. I'm not saying each school delivers their market but it is their base. Interesting to note the two schools with loudest/most annoying/vocal fans come from the two smallest markets.....

AAC rank - metro area (metro pop, US metro rank)

1. SMU - DFW (7,200,000 4th)
2. UH - Houston (6,800,000 5th)
3. Temple - Philly (6,100,000 7th)
4. USF - Tampa (3,000,000 18th)
5. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (2,700,000 21st)
6. UCF - Orlando (2,500,000 23rd)
7. Cincy - Cincinnati (2,200,000 28th)
8. Memphis - Memphis (1,300,000 42nd)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (1,300,000 46th)
10. UConn - Hartford (1,200,000 47th)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (1,000,000 55th)
12. WSU - Wichita (600,000 87th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (200,000 236th)

Also, I included Annapolis in the Baltimore metro.

A more important marker is TV market. That is what brings in the money for a conference. However, I will say that the Orlando market can include Daytona Beach and Melbourne as that is where our local TV coverage extends. Tampa should probably include St Pete, Sarasota, and stretch into Polk County. I am sure there are others in similar circumstances. For whatever reason, the official numbers don't include them.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corpo...-ranks.pdf

1. Temple - Philly (2,942,800 4th)
2. SMU - DFW (2,713,380 5th)
3. UH - Houston (2,450,800 8th)
4. USF - Tampa (1,908,590 11th)
5. UCF - Orlando (1,519,570 18th)
6. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (1,119,480 26th)
7. UConn - Hartford (963,950 30th)
8. Cincy - Cincinnati (863,800 36th)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (641,620 50th)
10. Memphis - Memphis (633,930 51st)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (531,230 58th)
12. WSU - Wichita (439,760 66th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (301,990 100th)

I still say Jackson TN should be included in the Memphis TV market....ranked 176 with 89,970...It would bump Memphis over the 720k mark.

might as well include little rock

Jackson is a lot closer than Little Rock.

Plus you can get Memphis TV in Jackson.

(07-19-2017 09:28 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:48 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Markets don't mean anything in the post-cable era. It's all about fan base size.

So take the biggest schools in the country... There are several AAC schools that in the next 20 years will have more living alumni than crap schools in the P5. Think of the future.

This guy knows whats up. [1] The midwest is dying. They aren't going to have to just recruit football players from Florida and Texas. They will need students as well.

West Virginia has massive issues on a state level as well. They will be left behind in realignment.

[1] - http://hechingerreport.org/universities-...nrollment/

(07-20-2017 08:47 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:07 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:03 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:50 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:31 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  The WSU thread about being great for the board got me thinking about what they add numbers wise. I'm sure this has been discussed before but I quickly ranked the metro areas by population for each AAC school. I'm not saying each school delivers their market but it is their base. Interesting to note the two schools with loudest/most annoying/vocal fans come from the two smallest markets.....

AAC rank - metro area (metro pop, US metro rank)

1. SMU - DFW (7,200,000 4th)
2. UH - Houston (6,800,000 5th)
3. Temple - Philly (6,100,000 7th)
4. USF - Tampa (3,000,000 18th)
5. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (2,700,000 21st)
6. UCF - Orlando (2,500,000 23rd)
7. Cincy - Cincinnati (2,200,000 28th)
8. Memphis - Memphis (1,300,000 42nd)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (1,300,000 46th)
10. UConn - Hartford (1,200,000 47th)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (1,000,000 55th)
12. WSU - Wichita (600,000 87th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (200,000 236th)

Also, I included Annapolis in the Baltimore metro.

A more important marker is TV market. That is what brings in the money for a conference. However, I will say that the Orlando market can include Daytona Beach and Melbourne as that is where our local TV coverage extends. Tampa should probably include St Pete, Sarasota, and stretch into Polk County. I am sure there are others in similar circumstances. For whatever reason, the official numbers don't include them.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corpo...-ranks.pdf

1. Temple - Philly (2,942,800 4th)
2. SMU - DFW (2,713,380 5th)
3. UH - Houston (2,450,800 8th)
4. USF - Tampa (1,908,590 11th)
5. UCF - Orlando (1,519,570 18th)
6. Navy - Baltimore/Annapolis (1,119,480 26th)
7. UConn - Hartford (963,950 30th)
8. Cincy - Cincinnati (863,800 36th)
9. Tulane - New Orleans (641,620 50th)
10. Memphis - Memphis (633,930 51st)
11. Tulsa - Tulsa (531,230 58th)
12. WSU - Wichita (439,760 66th)
13. ECU - Greenville, NC (301,990 100th)

I still say Jackson TN should be included in the Memphis TV market....ranked 176 with 89,970...It would bump Memphis over the 720k mark.

might as well include little rock

Jackson is a lot closer than Little Rock.

Plus you can get Memphis TV in Jackson.

We have a campus in Jackson as well.

UCONN: 936,950 + 7,348,620 = 8,285,570

(07-20-2017 08:56 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  



UCONN: 936,950 + 7,348,620 = 8,285,570

hahahahahahahahaha.

well done.

(07-20-2017 08:47 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Jackson is a lot closer than Little Rock.

Plus you can get Memphis TV in Jackson.

as the closest big city, i figured little rock would get a bit of memphis news

(07-20-2017 09:04 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(07-20-2017 08:47 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Jackson is a lot closer than Little Rock.

Plus you can get Memphis TV in Jackson.

as the closest big city, i figured little rock would get a bit of memphis news

nah, its too far away. 150 miles. Plus it is much bigger than Jackson. 200k vs 65k They have their own stations.

Jackson has a few stations but they can get most of the Memphis stations over the air too.

(07-20-2017 08:43 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 03:29 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 03:15 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 02:56 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The RDU tv market ends 8 miles from ECU's campus.

Lol


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Not a joke. It literally does.

Not sure why he's laughing.... The joke is TV markets and who gets to claim them. UNC, Duke, and NCSU can claim Farmville which is 8 miles from ECU, but ECU can't claim any traction in RDU where its largest concentration of alumni live.... Markets matter sure, but the influence is diminishing rapidly with streaming and a la carte TV. Ultimately its going to be about who gets people to buy the station and turn on the TV. Not just the arbitrary number of households in your market.

That's why I laugh. It's completely ridiculous, and hopefully with new technology we should be able to track what people are actually watching. Do you really think houses in Farmville have the heels/Duke/ncsu on when the game is on at the same time as ECU?


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I feel like the majority of people who watch football in North Carolina are watching ECU. And during basketball season, they are watching everyone but ECU. Such a bizarre state.

(07-20-2017 09:56 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  I feel like the majority of people who watch football in North Carolina are watching ECU. And during basketball season, they are watching everyone but ECU. Such a bizarre state.

The ACC has a pretty sweet deal with local channels in NC... you can typcially find either the UNC, NC State, Duke, or Wake game on a local channel every Saturday. ECU is almost never on one of those...