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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 05:58 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote: I wonder what the Jurgen haters must be thinking right now. Not saying he should've stayed but they should've chilled out u till after the cycle so we could've brought someone in better
Also Siggy not traveling to US and Everton is set to keep bidding to win him.
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US Soccer got caught in a situation where they realized the consequences of not qualifying for a World Cup were so high they had to do something.
The flaw of an American coach has always been the over reliance on throwing MLS Players out there over our lesser European players. Any idiot can name our starting XI or close to it right now, but we've got to quit relying on some of these MLS players to bail us out. The stars can be competitive, but about 3/4 of the league has no chance against most major leagues.
Also, as for Siggy. If Everton's big pocket owners will write a check for 50 million, he's all theirs.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
And Swansea rejects Everton's 40 million pound bid.
They are getting closer to reaching his true value. About 7 more million plus add-ons for various accolades, and he's all theirs.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (07-13-2017 05:58 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote: I wonder what the Jurgen haters must be thinking right now. Not saying he should've stayed but they should've chilled out u till after the cycle so we could've brought someone in better
Also Siggy not traveling to US and Everton is set to keep bidding to win him.
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US Soccer got caught in a situation where they realized the consequences of not qualifying for a World Cup were so high they had to do something.
The flaw of an American coach has always been the over reliance on throwing MLS Players out there over our lesser European players. Any idiot can name our starting XI or close to it right now, but we've got to quit relying on some of these MLS players to bail us out. The stars can be competitive, but about 3/4 of the league has no chance against most major leagues.
Also, as for Siggy. If Everton's big pocket owners will write a check for 50 million, he's all theirs.
You're not kidding...Morrow and Hedges looked like complete dogshit and Roldan couldn't hold a ball against an island territory the size of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why isn't Lynden Gooch getting a run out instead of Roldan, who is basically the same form of player only slightly worse in every way?
We REALLY need these young guys over in Europe to grow up quick, or else the lean time between generations is going to be near unwatchable.
Also, why the hell isn't the best RB in our player pool playing at all for our NT? Timmy Chandler was in some publications' Bund XI, yet he can't beat out a has-been right winger or a 5'8" guy who should be a winger?
I thought Zardes and Arriola played well on the wings last night outside of a few bad touches, Lichaj looked every bit the professional he is even though he was a bit more reserved in attack than he is with Forest, and showed some good movement. My big issue is how bad the spine of the team has played even back to the WC Qualifiers...our central midfield is razor thin depth-wise and our center backs have played pretty poorly lately when they're even healthy enough to play. I think we ought to just get Jesse Gonzalez and Ethan Horvath all of the GK caps at this point...Guzan looks inconsistent at best and awful at worst, and Howard is Buffon-ish at this point, just without the talent or competitive drive.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 11:22 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 10:15 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: Man City just gave us 50 million for Kyle Walker. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
It's like the NBA...this is what happens when managers have more money than sense.
If Kyle Walker is 50 million then Dele Alli and Harry Kane would be worth 300 million.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 12:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (07-13-2017 05:58 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote: I wonder what the Jurgen haters must be thinking right now. Not saying he should've stayed but they should've chilled out u till after the cycle so we could've brought someone in better
Also Siggy not traveling to US and Everton is set to keep bidding to win him.
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US Soccer got caught in a situation where they realized the consequences of not qualifying for a World Cup were so high they had to do something.
The flaw of an American coach has always been the over reliance on throwing MLS Players out there over our lesser European players. Any idiot can name our starting XI or close to it right now, but we've got to quit relying on some of these MLS players to bail us out. The stars can be competitive, but about 3/4 of the league has no chance against most major leagues.
Also, as for Siggy. If Everton's big pocket owners will write a check for 50 million, he's all theirs.
You're not kidding...Morrow and Hedges looked like complete dogshit and Roldan couldn't hold a ball against an island territory the size of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why isn't Lynden Gooch getting a run out instead of Roldan, who is basically the same form of player only slightly worse in every way?
We REALLY need these young guys over in Europe to grow up quick, or else the lean time between generations is going to be near unwatchable.
Also, why the hell isn't the best RB in our player pool playing at all for our NT? Timmy Chandler was in some publications' Bund XI, yet he can't beat out a has-been right winger or a 5'8" guy who should be a winger?
The squad after the group stage will look much different than it does now.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 12:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (07-13-2017 05:58 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote: I wonder what the Jurgen haters must be thinking right now. Not saying he should've stayed but they should've chilled out u till after the cycle so we could've brought someone in better
Also Siggy not traveling to US and Everton is set to keep bidding to win him.
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US Soccer got caught in a situation where they realized the consequences of not qualifying for a World Cup were so high they had to do something.
The flaw of an American coach has always been the over reliance on throwing MLS Players out there over our lesser European players. Any idiot can name our starting XI or close to it right now, but we've got to quit relying on some of these MLS players to bail us out. The stars can be competitive, but about 3/4 of the league has no chance against most major leagues.
Also, as for Siggy. If Everton's big pocket owners will write a check for 50 million, he's all theirs.
You're not kidding...Morrow and Hedges looked like complete dogshit and Roldan couldn't hold a ball against an island territory the size of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why isn't Lynden Gooch getting a run out instead of Roldan, who is basically the same form of player only slightly worse in every way?
We REALLY need these young guys over in Europe to grow up quick, or else the lean time between generations is going to be near unwatchable.
Also, why the hell isn't the best RB in our player pool playing at all for our NT? Timmy Chandler was in some publications' Bund XI, yet he can't beat out a has-been right winger or a 5'8" guy who should be a winger?
Hasn't Chandler been injured?
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 01:02 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: (07-13-2017 12:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (07-13-2017 05:58 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote: I wonder what the Jurgen haters must be thinking right now. Not saying he should've stayed but they should've chilled out u till after the cycle so we could've brought someone in better
Also Siggy not traveling to US and Everton is set to keep bidding to win him.
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US Soccer got caught in a situation where they realized the consequences of not qualifying for a World Cup were so high they had to do something.
The flaw of an American coach has always been the over reliance on throwing MLS Players out there over our lesser European players. Any idiot can name our starting XI or close to it right now, but we've got to quit relying on some of these MLS players to bail us out. The stars can be competitive, but about 3/4 of the league has no chance against most major leagues.
Also, as for Siggy. If Everton's big pocket owners will write a check for 50 million, he's all theirs.
You're not kidding...Morrow and Hedges looked like complete dogshit and Roldan couldn't hold a ball against an island territory the size of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why isn't Lynden Gooch getting a run out instead of Roldan, who is basically the same form of player only slightly worse in every way?
We REALLY need these young guys over in Europe to grow up quick, or else the lean time between generations is going to be near unwatchable.
Also, why the hell isn't the best RB in our player pool playing at all for our NT? Timmy Chandler was in some publications' Bund XI, yet he can't beat out a has-been right winger or a 5'8" guy who should be a winger?
Hasn't Chandler been injured?
He played and assisted on the lone goal for E.Frankfurt against Sounders in a friendly on July 8th. I saw that he bowed out of training in May, but he's healthy now.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 01:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: The squad after the group stage will look much different than it does now.
It has to be...although with the way every other team in the tournament looks, it might not be that big of a deal how bad we are.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 01:25 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 01:02 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: (07-13-2017 12:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (07-13-2017 05:58 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote: I wonder what the Jurgen haters must be thinking right now. Not saying he should've stayed but they should've chilled out u till after the cycle so we could've brought someone in better
Also Siggy not traveling to US and Everton is set to keep bidding to win him.
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US Soccer got caught in a situation where they realized the consequences of not qualifying for a World Cup were so high they had to do something.
The flaw of an American coach has always been the over reliance on throwing MLS Players out there over our lesser European players. Any idiot can name our starting XI or close to it right now, but we've got to quit relying on some of these MLS players to bail us out. The stars can be competitive, but about 3/4 of the league has no chance against most major leagues.
Also, as for Siggy. If Everton's big pocket owners will write a check for 50 million, he's all theirs.
You're not kidding...Morrow and Hedges looked like complete dogshit and Roldan couldn't hold a ball against an island territory the size of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why isn't Lynden Gooch getting a run out instead of Roldan, who is basically the same form of player only slightly worse in every way?
We REALLY need these young guys over in Europe to grow up quick, or else the lean time between generations is going to be near unwatchable.
Also, why the hell isn't the best RB in our player pool playing at all for our NT? Timmy Chandler was in some publications' Bund XI, yet he can't beat out a has-been right winger or a 5'8" guy who should be a winger?
Hasn't Chandler been injured?
He played and assisted on the lone goal for E.Frankfurt against Sounders in a friendly on July 8th. I saw that he bowed out of training in May, but he's healthy now.
They are playing the Quakes this weekend. I didn't realize that was who he played for.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 02:23 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: They are playing the Quakes this weekend. I didn't realize that was who he played for.
Yeah, he moved from Nurnburg back to E.Frankfurt when the former was relegated back in '14.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 12:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: And Swansea rejects Everton's 40 million pound bid.
They are getting closer to reaching his true value. About 7 more million plus add-ons for various accolades, and he's all theirs.
Sigurdsson apparently pulled out of the teams trip to the US at the last minute so that doesn't bode well. Hope he stays, but looking more unlikely.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 01:00 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: (07-13-2017 11:22 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (07-13-2017 10:15 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: Man City just gave us 50 million for Kyle Walker. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
It's like the NBA...this is what happens when managers have more money than sense.
If Kyle Walker is 50 million then Dele Alli and Harry Kane would be worth 300 million.
English players are overvalued and overrated. The England National Team has only made the Semifinals of a World Cup or European Championship once on foreign soil, the 1990 World Cup. The EPL is the most popular league in the world however it's overrated and has struggled in Europe.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
A little off topic here, but as I'm reading some of the posts about the Guiana/Guyana thing, as well as about Bayern München, something that struck me was that English-speaking countries spell the German state of Bayern as "Bavaria", and spell its capital city of München as "Munich". So why don't they write Bayern München as "Bavaria Munich"? (lol) Maybe they wanna keep at least part of it true to its name.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-14-2017 11:34 AM)Volkmar Wrote: A little off topic here, but as I'm reading some of the posts about the Guiana/Guyana thing, as well as about Bayern München, something that struck me was that English-speaking countries spell the German state of Bayern as "Bavaria", and spell its capital city of München as "Munich". So why don't they write Bayern München as "Bavaria Munich"? (lol) Maybe they wanna keep at least part of it true to its name.
What is the point of this post? I've read it multiple times and each time I'm not seeing a point, any point, that explains the reason for this post.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
Italian and Portguese do the same thing for Bayern Munich. The reason i've always heard is that the name of the club is FC Bayern(or was before it was incorporated). Bayern Munchen is like a German version Athletic Club de Bilbao in Spain. therefore, FC Bayern is the actual name of the club so it stays unchanged and Munchen is translated bc it is just a geographic locator rather than the name of the club so each language
I dont know how much of that is true. Just what I've been told by a German dude .
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-14-2017 12:35 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: Italian and Portguese do the same thing for Bayern Munich. The reason i've always heard is that the name of the club is FC Bayern(or was before it was incorporated). Bayern Munchen is like a German version Athletic Club de Bilbao in Spain. therefore, FC Bayern is the actual name of the club so it stays unchanged and Munchen is translated bc it is just a geographic locator rather than the name of the club so each language
I dont know how much of that is true. Just what I've been told by a German dude .
Sounds good to me. I'm a German dude also, but your German dude sounds as though he knows more about it than I do. Thanks for the answer.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-14-2017 11:51 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (07-14-2017 11:34 AM)Volkmar Wrote: A little off topic here, but as I'm reading some of the posts about the Guiana/Guyana thing, as well as about Bayern München, something that struck me was that English-speaking countries spell the German state of Bayern as "Bavaria", and spell its capital city of München as "Munich". So why don't they write Bayern München as "Bavaria Munich"? (lol) Maybe they wanna keep at least part of it true to its name.
What is the point of this post? I've read it multiple times and each time I'm not seeing a point, any point, that explains the reason for this post.
Felt it was pretty straight-forward actually. Sorry for your confusion.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-14-2017 02:02 PM)Volkmar Wrote: (07-14-2017 11:51 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (07-14-2017 11:34 AM)Volkmar Wrote: A little off topic here, but as I'm reading some of the posts about the Guiana/Guyana thing, as well as about Bayern München, something that struck me was that English-speaking countries spell the German state of Bayern as "Bavaria", and spell its capital city of München as "Munich". So why don't they write Bayern München as "Bavaria Munich"? (lol) Maybe they wanna keep at least part of it true to its name.
What is the point of this post? I've read it multiple times and each time I'm not seeing a point, any point, that explains the reason for this post.
Felt it was pretty straight-forward actually. Sorry for your confusion.
There's no confusion on my part. The point of your post, as best I can tell, is to complain over what essentially amounts to nothing. Bavaria is the English translation of Bayern, though I could be wrong, and Munich has been called Munich since before I was born. Munchen is the German name for Munich, but you knew that already. So explain to me what your point is/was again.
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RE: OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-14-2017 02:53 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (07-14-2017 02:02 PM)Volkmar Wrote: (07-14-2017 11:51 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (07-14-2017 11:34 AM)Volkmar Wrote: A little off topic here, but as I'm reading some of the posts about the Guiana/Guyana thing, as well as about Bayern München, something that struck me was that English-speaking countries spell the German state of Bayern as "Bavaria", and spell its capital city of München as "Munich". So why don't they write Bayern München as "Bavaria Munich"? (lol) Maybe they wanna keep at least part of it true to its name.
What is the point of this post? I've read it multiple times and each time I'm not seeing a point, any point, that explains the reason for this post.
Felt it was pretty straight-forward actually. Sorry for your confusion.
There's no confusion on my part. The point of your post, as best I can tell, is to complain over what essentially amounts to nothing. Bavaria is the English translation of Bayern, though I could be wrong, and Munich has been called Munich since before I was born. Munchen is the German name for Munich, but you knew that already. So explain to me what your point is/was again.
Oh dear. Do you always get this defensive? As you said yourself, Bayern has always been translated as Bavaria by English-speaking countries. As you also said yourself, München has always been translated as Munich by English-speaking countries. So my point was, if you put the two together to make Bayern München, which is a common reference for FC Bayern, I just found it odd that those same English-speaking countries call it Bayern Munich, and not Bavaria Munich. I don't know how else I can explain it. (lol)
And it's not a big deal or anything to me. It's just something that struck me as interesting when I was catching up on this thread. You're making more of this than need be, especially after aTxTIGER's eloquent response to my inquiry.
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OT: Officially The Official Soccer Thread
(07-13-2017 12:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: And Swansea rejects Everton's 40 million pound bid.
They are getting closer to reaching his true value. About 7 more million plus add-ons for various accolades, and he's all theirs.
His true value is 25-30m. Swansea's "oh shite we're ******" value is 47-50m
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