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(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

Hope for new students sakes there'd be a lot of elevators

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(07-07-2017 02:12 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

Hope for new students sakes there'd be a lot of elevators

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Pretty sure VCU and T*mple have some tall dorms like this.

https://housing.temple.edu/campus-living...organ-hall

(07-07-2017 02:18 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:12 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

Hope for new students sakes there'd be a lot of elevators

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Pretty sure VCU and T*mple have some tall dorms like this.

https://housing.temple.edu/campus-living...organ-hall

I like this. More students on campus will attract businesses. Makes the area more valuable. And it's good to be in a valuable area when you're the entity with the most money to supplement eminent domain power.

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I wonder what is going to happen to the Powhatan Apts. now since the stadium is staying at Foreman Field

(07-07-2017 02:18 PM)monarx Wrote:  Pretty sure VCU and T*mple have some tall dorms like this.

https://housing.temple.edu/campus-living...organ-hall

And neither is struggling to build their first one either.

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

I'm not a civil engineer guy, but I am assuming ODU does not got that tall for a few reasons.

1) Soil is crap in the area. Might not be able to support such a tall building without more expensive foundation methods

2) Could very well be a height restriction due to the Navy Base having an airfield somewhat close to the area

3) Most campus don't have very tall buildings. Other than aesthetics, there could be other reasons. Perhaps students simply don't want to be in tall buildings?

I do agree that the campus could/should have taller buildings. A tower located at the Powhatan site would give some fantastic views at the top of both the campus as well as the water.

(07-07-2017 04:54 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:18 PM)monarx Wrote:  Pretty sure VCU and T*mple have some tall dorms like this.

https://housing.temple.edu/campus-living...organ-hall

And neither is struggling to build their first one either.

And neither has to worry about hurricanes, flooding, or subsidence.

(07-09-2017 07:57 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

I'm not a civil engineer guy, but I am assuming ODU does not got that tall for a few reasons.

1) Soil is crap in the area. Might not be able to support such a tall building without more expensive foundation methods

2) Could very well be a height restriction due to the Navy Base having an airfield somewhat close to the area

3) Most campus don't have very tall buildings. Other than aesthetics, there could be other reasons. Perhaps students simply don't want to be in tall buildings?

I do agree that the campus could/should have taller buildings. A tower located at the Powhatan site would give some fantastic views at the top of both the campus as well as the water.

I believe #1 is the highest hurdle to clear regarding building 12-15+ story buildings on campus. We know it can be done, because the land downtiwn is no more suitable for high rises than that on campus. It takes deep driving of reinforced concrete pile to reach stable substrate. It does add a lot of cost.

I believe the entire ODU campus is clear of any impact zones related to the airfield at NOB.

I have no idea whether-or-not students would want to live in high rises, but my gut feeling is that many would not mind.

I think a high rise would really help the residential campus feel verses a commuter feel. Either way, campus has come a long way since I stepped foot on ODU in 2006

(07-09-2017 05:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:57 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

I'm not a civil engineer guy, but I am assuming ODU does not got that tall for a few reasons.

1) Soil is crap in the area. Might not be able to support such a tall building without more expensive foundation methods

2) Could very well be a height restriction due to the Navy Base having an airfield somewhat close to the area

3) Most campus don't have very tall buildings. Other than aesthetics, there could be other reasons. Perhaps students simply don't want to be in tall buildings?

I do agree that the campus could/should have taller buildings. A tower located at the Powhatan site would give some fantastic views at the top of both the campus as well as the water.

I believe #1 is the highest hurdle to clear regarding building 12-15+ story buildings on campus. We know it can be done, because the land downtiwn is no more suitable for high rises than that on campus. It takes deep driving of reinforced concrete pile to reach stable substrate. It does add a lot of cost.

I believe the entire ODU campus is clear of any impact zones related to the airfield at NOB.

I have no idea whether-or-not students would want to live in high rises, but my gut feeling is that many would not mind.

I think there might be more going on with the airspace than your map indicates.

I found this, and only skimmed through the document.

http://www.tbaonline.org/builderservices..._07-10.pdf
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I did a quick search on FAA restrictions. Appears ODU is far enough away from both NOB and ORF to not get them involved.

(07-09-2017 08:33 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 05:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:57 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

I'm not a civil engineer guy, but I am assuming ODU does not got that tall for a few reasons.

1) Soil is crap in the area. Might not be able to support such a tall building without more expensive foundation methods

2) Could very well be a height restriction due to the Navy Base having an airfield somewhat close to the area

3) Most campus don't have very tall buildings. Other than aesthetics, there could be other reasons. Perhaps students simply don't want to be in tall buildings?

I do agree that the campus could/should have taller buildings. A tower located at the Powhatan site would give some fantastic views at the top of both the campus as well as the water.

I believe #1 is the highest hurdle to clear regarding building 12-15+ story buildings on campus. We know it can be done, because the land downtiwn is no more suitable for high rises than that on campus. It takes deep driving of reinforced concrete pile to reach stable substrate. It does add a lot of cost.

I believe the entire ODU campus is clear of any impact zones related to the airfield at NOB.

I have no idea whether-or-not students would want to live in high rises, but my gut feeling is that many would not mind.

I think there might be more going on with the airspace than your map indicates.

I found this, and only skimmed through the document.

http://www.tbaonline.org/builderservices..._07-10.pdf
Slide 39



I did a quick search on FAA restrictions. Appears ODU is far enough away from both NOB and ORF to not get them involved.

Correct, ODU is far enough away from both Chambers and ORF that reatrictions on building height would not be an issue. I believe the map you posted has more to do with airspace use restrictions of other aircraft.

(07-09-2017 05:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:57 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.

I'm not a civil engineer guy, but I am assuming ODU does not got that tall for a few reasons.

1) Soil is crap in the area. Might not be able to support such a tall building without more expensive foundation methods

2) Could very well be a height restriction due to the Navy Base having an airfield somewhat close to the area

3) Most campus don't have very tall buildings. Other than aesthetics, there could be other reasons. Perhaps students simply don't want to be in tall buildings?

I do agree that the campus could/should have taller buildings. A tower located at the Powhatan site would give some fantastic views at the top of both the campus as well as the water.

I believe #1 is the highest hurdle to clear regarding building 12-15+ story buildings on campus. We know it can be done, because the land downtiwn is no more suitable for high rises than that on campus. It takes deep driving of reinforced concrete pile to reach stable substrate. It does add a lot of cost.

I believe the entire ODU campus is clear of any impact zones related to the airfield at NOB.

I have no idea whether-or-not students would want to live in high rises, but my gut feeling is that many would not mind.

247,000 gsf for the new WebCenter is enormous!!! That complex should be loaded with stuff for the kids to do during their free time. Something that will keep them off the streets! ODU has a lot of money, based off all the stuff they plan on building. They have to do it if they want to attract higher profile staff and students.

(07-07-2017 12:42 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 11:55 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  NEW CHILD STUDY CENTER: This is Phase 2 of the New education building. Approximately 7,000 sf. A contractor has been selected and construction should start this year. Estimated Completion: Summer 2018

This project has started. Drove by last weekend and noticed they had cordoned off the lot and were in the midst of preparing the lot for the build to begin.

http://www.yorkriverelectric.com/wp-cont...awings.pdf

Here is the link to the plans for this project. Didnt realize they are moving it to the back of campus. Must have more trust that the area behind campus is improving. Hopefully

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http://www.yorkriverelectric.com/wp-cont...awings.pdf

Here is the link to the plans for this project. Didnt realize they are moving it to the back of campus. Must have more trust that the area behind campus is improving. Hopefully
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This looks similar to the current building... I actually thought I was looking at the building on 45th street in that rendering until looking closely. Anybody know what will happen to the old Child Study Building?

I was a CET major at ODU (I work for a General Contractor now so a lot of the civil stuff I learned has gone out the window) and one thing I do know about building taller = more people in a building which also means code calls for more parking spots. I can't remember the actual ratio but it was something that stuck because I always wondered why ODU didn't have taller buildings outside the BAL since we are so tight on space. Maybe they don't have enough spots or don't want to build taller garages? They have taken out a LOT of parking the last several years. I also vaguely remember hearing from a professor that the new engineering building was built so that you can't build it higher, which in my mind was a mistake. We got the plans for that building and used them for a scheduling class.

While I was learning about Civil Engineering and construction I always imagined ODU's campus like a mini-city, with several tall buildings throughout campus. Even if we build more that are no higher than the BAL that would add a lot more space for dorms/classrooms, offices, etc.

http://www.yorkriverelectric.com/wp-cont...awings.pdf

Here is the link to the plans for this project. Didnt realize they are moving it to the back of campus. Must have more trust that the area behind campus is improving. Hopefully
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This looks similar to the current building... I actually thought I was looking at the building on 45th street in that rendering until looking closely. Anybody know what will happen to the old Child Study Building?
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Took pic of the site today

And the new Barry Art building

Looks great! Are those the only two active projects on campus right now?

Webb center is pretty big and spread out along the entire width of the mall, it measures in at 168,000 sq ft. the new master plan has the student union in a much reduced area to accommodate 2 new buildings, one on each side of the union. I would think that the new student union at 248,000 square feet will be atleast 4-5 stories tall. Which would be impressive, i hope its a beautiful statement piece for the campus.