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(06-08-2017 12:48 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:36 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  ODU needs to tear down the Powhatan apartments and the Inn. Build a big athletic village at Powhatan for all the athletes and new larger dorm where the Inn is located

What ODU really needs is a private developer to buy up everything from hampton blvd to Killam ave from 42nd street to the overpass at 21st and replace all of the sketchy stuff with mid to high level housing, research and office space, boutique shopping, art galleries, a nice grocery store, maybe a Target or Trader Joes, and performance venues etc. But give it some character rather than that bland, generic ODU village style. Thats all out of ODUs hands, but it would be a complete game changer for the university. Im convinced if ODU can ever overcome the safety/ghetto reputation and make the area around campus a fun, creative, interesting and safe place, it will thrive and become one of the most desirable schools in the state.

Dig around and look for some if the Norfolk Master Plan developments.

I posted some screen shots and info from one some time last year.


If I remember tonight I'll see if I can find it. I'm currently traveling and don't have the time to scroll through pdfs.


One of the things that I really remember was redeveloping the intersection where Dirty Buffalo used to be. There was a plan to tear down the four kids building and put up some mixed use housing and shopping.

Also remember seeing some sort of fancy bridge stuff. Welcome to Ghent or Park place. Something like that.

There is a plan to out up a shopping center south of ODU.
There have been other proposals for the area around ODU. A bunch of them predate the law change regarding ED land grabs.

I'm sure there are people keeping an eye on the area. Once the new research buildings go up on Hampton (I'm guessing 10 years from now) other businesses will be drawn to the area.

(06-10-2017 03:20 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:48 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:36 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  ODU needs to tear down the Powhatan apartments and the Inn. Build a big athletic village at Powhatan for all the athletes and new larger dorm where the Inn is located

What ODU really needs is a private developer to buy up everything from hampton blvd to Killam ave from 42nd street to the overpass at 21st and replace all of the sketchy stuff with mid to high level housing, research and office space, boutique shopping, art galleries, a nice grocery store, maybe a Target or Trader Joes, and performance venues etc. But give it some character rather than that bland, generic ODU village style. Thats all out of ODUs hands, but it would be a complete game changer for the university. Im convinced if ODU can ever overcome the safety/ghetto reputation and make the area around campus a fun, creative, interesting and safe place, it will thrive and become one of the most desirable schools in the state.

Dig around and look for some if the Norfolk Master Plan developments.

I posted some screen shots and info from one some time last year.


If I remember tonight I'll see if I can find it. I'm currently traveling and don't have the time to scroll through pdfs.


One of the things that I really remember was redeveloping the intersection where Dirty Buffalo used to be. There was a plan to tear down the four kids building and put up some mixed use housing and shopping.

Also remember seeing some sort of fancy bridge stuff. Welcome to Ghent or Park place. Something like that.

There is a plan to out up a shopping center south of ODU.
There have been other proposals for the area around ODU. A bunch of them predate the law change regarding ED land grabs.

I'm sure there are people keeping an eye on the area. Once the new research buildings go up on Hampton (I'm guessing 10 years from now) other businesses will be drawn to the area.

Is the Norfolk 2030 plan what you mean? The entire 238 page pdf is here http://www.norfolk.gov/index.aspx?nid=1376. A screenshot of the relevant part is too large to attach but page 3-14 (52/238) has the details for the future of the area around ODU.

The plan has lots of positive ideas for the entire city. Well worth the read. Notably however, it doesn't address the future of the Lamberts Point neighborhood. In my opinion having such a neighborhood right next to campus is a huge inhibition to development.

For example when I Googled the mini mall development mentioned ITT there is an article detailing opposition from Lamberts Point's own civic leaders. They don't want any development that doesn't cater to typical incomes in Lamberts Point. I may be wrong but 6,000 on-campus students in addition to students in the district and other nearby housing probably outnumber Lamberts Point residents. As someone who lived on campus without a car before ODU had its current shuttle service, I would have loved having more to do and buy around campus.

In my opinion the three things we need around campus are retail, light rail to downtown and a pedestrian bridge (or three) across Hampton Boulevard. The plan makes reference to "a wayfinding program" between ODU and the University Village but I don't know what that means.

(06-10-2017 06:18 PM)ODU2017 Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 03:20 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:48 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:36 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  ODU needs to tear down the Powhatan apartments and the Inn. Build a big athletic village at Powhatan for all the athletes and new larger dorm where the Inn is located

What ODU really needs is a private developer to buy up everything from hampton blvd to Killam ave from 42nd street to the overpass at 21st and replace all of the sketchy stuff with mid to high level housing, research and office space, boutique shopping, art galleries, a nice grocery store, maybe a Target or Trader Joes, and performance venues etc. But give it some character rather than that bland, generic ODU village style. Thats all out of ODUs hands, but it would be a complete game changer for the university. Im convinced if ODU can ever overcome the safety/ghetto reputation and make the area around campus a fun, creative, interesting and safe place, it will thrive and become one of the most desirable schools in the state.

Dig around and look for some if the Norfolk Master Plan developments.

I posted some screen shots and info from one some time last year.


If I remember tonight I'll see if I can find it. I'm currently traveling and don't have the time to scroll through pdfs.


One of the things that I really remember was redeveloping the intersection where Dirty Buffalo used to be. There was a plan to tear down the four kids building and put up some mixed use housing and shopping.

Also remember seeing some sort of fancy bridge stuff. Welcome to Ghent or Park place. Something like that.

There is a plan to out up a shopping center south of ODU.
There have been other proposals for the area around ODU. A bunch of them predate the law change regarding ED land grabs.

I'm sure there are people keeping an eye on the area. Once the new research buildings go up on Hampton (I'm guessing 10 years from now) other businesses will be drawn to the area.

Is the Norfolk 2030 plan what you mean? The entire 238 page pdf is here http://www.norfolk.gov/index.aspx?nid=1376. A screenshot of the relevant part is too large to attach but page 3-14 (52/238) has the details for the future of the area around ODU.

The plan has lots of positive ideas for the entire city. Well worth the read. Notably however, it doesn't address the future of the Lamberts Point neighborhood. In my opinion having such a neighborhood right next to campus is a huge inhibition to development.

For example when I Googled the mini mall development mentioned ITT there is an article detailing opposition from Lamberts Point's own civic leaders. They don't want any development that doesn't cater to typical incomes in Lamberts Point. I may be wrong but 6,000 on-campus students in addition to students in the district and other nearby housing probably outnumber Lamberts Point residents. As someone who lived on campus without a car before ODU had its current shuttle service, I would have loved having more to do and buy around campus.

In my opinion the three things we need around campus are retail, light rail to downtown and a pedestrian bridge (or three) across Hampton Boulevard. The plan makes reference to "a wayfinding program" between ODU and the University Village but I don't know what that means.

Was talking about this one.


http://www.norfolk.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1625

Thank you for sharing. I have read the whole thing in detail and greatly appreciate the ambition. If the ideas in this come to fruition it would make the ODU area the most desirable part of town. A shame that this was compiled in 2010 and still only superficial improvements have been made.

I think it's pretty cool.

I wonder how much the economic depression contributed into that plan.
If real estate prices were still dropping, much of that land would have been cheap to pick up for the improvements.

https://pilotonline.com/news/local/trans...1366a.html

From the latest light rail meeting, looks like most options would go right by ODU. Could be a game changer for the university.

(06-19-2017 12:11 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  https://pilotonline.com/news/local/trans...1366a.html

From the latest light rail meeting, looks like most options would go right by ODU. Could be a game changer for the university.

The Pilot comment section is never a disappointment whenever Light Rail is in the title.

(06-19-2017 01:24 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 12:11 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  https://pilotonline.com/news/local/trans...1366a.html

From the latest light rail meeting, looks like most options would go right by ODU. Could be a game changer for the university.

The Pilot comment section is never a disappointment whenever Light Rail is in the title.

Pilot commenters are the most negative group of people. They hate every new development in the region and hate everything ODU does.

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(06-19-2017 01:45 PM)ODU2017 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 01:24 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 12:11 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  https://pilotonline.com/news/local/trans...1366a.html

From the latest light rail meeting, looks like most options would go right by ODU. Could be a game changer for the university.

The Pilot comment section is never a disappointment whenever Light Rail is in the title.

Pilot commenters are the most negative group of people. They hate every new development in the region and hate everything ODU does.

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So true.

If you follow some of the names on the comments, they're the same people over and over, day after day, story after story. I get the impression they sit at home all day and when they aren't watching soaps, they're bitching about every single thing that happens in the region. They know everything about everything, and everyone else is a moron. It's really quite pitiful.

A newer bus fleet, trolly system would be cheaper to and maintain. 20 years from now fully automus cars,busses, and other transportation will be very common. Using a road network allows for the "people pod" to more of the comunity than a fixed path.

The light rail iin Norfolk has an awful history, low ridership, was the worst in the nation in loss money per rider.
Other cities with more and larger systems have difficulties managing their budgets come expansion.

The extra $5 million HRT needed did not inspite confidence.

When is ODU starting on the next dorm? They announced the name last year

Went to ODU today to visit an old friend and supposedly parts of the Webb Center is scheduled to be demolished this Fall and the Webb Center staff and restaurants are moving to the new dining hall. Anyone else here about this?

(06-28-2017 09:41 PM)nakas12 Wrote:  Went to ODU today to visit an old friend and supposedly parts of the Webb Center is scheduled to be demolished this Fall and the Webb Center staff and restaurants are moving to the new dining hall. Anyone else here about this?

The 2013 Master Plan called for demolishing the Webb Center and building two new buildings on the site (one student union, one admin office building) .

To my knowledge there isn't a more recent master plan. Although some of the aims of that plan - the Powhatan football stadium - are no longer being considered.

So maybe they are following the plan or maybe they have amended it slightly. There is a page on the ODU website for new constructions. I think it's called capital projects. Last I looked it hadn't been updated since the new Education Building was finished.

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(06-28-2017 09:41 PM)nakas12 Wrote:  Went to ODU today to visit an old friend and supposedly parts of the Webb Center is scheduled to be demolished this Fall and the Webb Center staff and restaurants are moving to the new dining hall. Anyone else here about this?

I'm still a student, doing summer classes.
I asked a few professors this week if they knew anything about the Webb. They only knew that something is planned.

If there are plans to start demolishing the Webb this fall you will more than likely be able to find a RFP or some sort of other document from the school looking for work to be done via contractors or something submitted to Richmond.

People have found all sorts of random stuff while looking online.

The last construction doc posted was for the new child care center. If I remember correctly was not even in the Master Plan from 2013.

Found some good information (as of April 27, 2017) on the Student Union, New Chemistry Building and the new dorm Owens House, located here:

https://www.odu.edu/content/dam/odu/offi...-22-16.pdf

WEBB CENTER DESIGN PROJECT (NEW STUDENT UNION): Designed contract awarded to Moseley Architechs with WTW Architechs. Going to demolish the existing Webb Center and replace it with a multi-story structure up to 247, 614 sf (that is huge).

HUGO OWENS HOUSE RESIDENCE HALL: VMDO Architects will be the design fim, to be located next to the Student Rec Center. Approximately 165,000 sf and 500 beds. That will be one of the biggest dorms on campus and approx 6-7 stories. Estimated Completion: Fall 2019

PHYSICAL SCIENCES BUILDING, PHASE I (NEW CHEMISTY BUILDING): Moseley Architects will be the design firm. Approximately 110,000 sf, will replace existing chemistry building and pretlow planetarium. Estimated completion: Summer 2020.

NEW CHILD STUDY CENTER: This is Phase 2 of the New education building. Approximately 7,000 sf. A contractor has been selected and construction should start this year. Estimated Completion: Summer 2018

I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

(07-07-2017 11:55 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  NEW CHILD STUDY CENTER: This is Phase 2 of the New education building. Approximately 7,000 sf. A contractor has been selected and construction should start this year. Estimated Completion: Summer 2018

This project has started. Drove by last weekend and noticed they had cordoned off the lot and were in the midst of preparing the lot for the build to begin.

(07-07-2017 11:55 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Found some good information (as of April 27, 2017) on the Student Union, New Chemistry Building and the new dorm Owens House, located here:

https://www.odu.edu/content/dam/odu/offi...-22-16.pdf

WEBB CENTER DESIGN PROJECT (NEW STUDENT UNION): Designed contract awarded to Moseley Architechs with WTW Architechs. Going to demolish the existing Webb Center and replace it with a multi-story structure up to 247, 614 sf (that is huge).

HUGO OWENS HOUSE RESIDENCE HALL: VMDO Architects will be the design fim, to be located next to the Student Rec Center. Approximately 165,000 sf and 500 beds. That will be one of the biggest dorms on campus and approx 6-7 stories. Estimated Completion: Fall 2019

PHYSICAL SCIENCES BUILDING, PHASE I (NEW CHEMISTY BUILDING): Moseley Architects will be the design firm. Approximately 110,000 sf, will replace existing chemistry building and pretlow planetarium. Estimated completion: Summer 2020.

NEW CHILD STUDY CENTER: This is Phase 2 of the New education building. Approximately 7,000 sf. A contractor has been selected and construction should start this year. Estimated Completion: Summer 2018

WEBB CENTER DESIGN PROJECT (NEW STUDENT UNION): Designed contract awarded to Moseley Architects with WTW Architects. Going to demolish the existing Webb Center and replace it with a multi-story structure up to 247, 614 sf (that is huge). That is huge the new Education building is 119,000 square feet and cost $31,534,643.

Link to specs Ed building.... http://www.sbballard.com/portfolio/odu-c...-building/

(07-07-2017 12:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  I still don't get whey they don't build at least a 10 to 15 story dorm. ODU could reclaim some of the land Gresham and Rogers sits on, or the waterfront area without losing beds. On a campus that is landlocked, that land being able to be used again in the future is priceless. Whatever they do, please make it timeless and attractive.

I agree a 12-15 story building would help some of ODUs land issues. Basically 2 dorms in one.