(06-15-2017 12:34 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Publicity, there is no such thing as bad publicity...

And that idiom has been proven wrong countless times.

Publicity, fine. And of course a PR firm is going to tell anyone who will listen that there is such a thing as bad publicity. That's how they make money.

(06-15-2017 12:41 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  So let me get this straight Bison, people are only coerced into action? Then why do we , as responsible parents, spend time discussing possible "bad influences " with our children?

Which comes first the influence or the coercion?

This is a semantics game. You and 200 want to play gotcha, switching back and forth between literal interpretations and what you really meant.

The core issue here is that any rhetoric which does not include any explicit calls to violence can't be held accountable for any violent actions.

(06-15-2017 12:43 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  That literally makes no sense. You think the protesters at Berkeley for Milo and Ann Coulter were made to assault people and try to burn down the library against their will?

I didn't say those people were coerced into doing that. I said it is possible to coerce someone into doing something.

You think those protesters were influenced to assault and burning things down? That makes no sense.

It's not really possible to influence someone into doing something. I reject the idea. The person still has to make the decision to do the thing.

(06-15-2017 12:45 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  She lost an endorsement and a job. You really think that's an example of "no such thing as bad advertising"?

How many times were you thinking of her before this happened? Zero

(06-15-2017 01:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  People lose their jobs and Biz can go under in a heartbeat with stupid social media posts, this lady might be in a little trouble.

Sure, I didn't say it was impossible for negative consequences to happen.

(06-15-2017 03:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The one's I love are the leftists on here who denigrate religion every chance they get and say that religion should have zero influence on political policy

Just for clarity: saying religion should have no place in politics is not denigrating religion.

Both have their places, which are and should be completely separate.

(06-15-2017 07:30 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 07:19 AM)gdunn Wrote:  The shooting was senseless no matter the shooter's political leanings. The report I read yesterday said the shooter asked of it was Republicans or Democrats practicing, so that tells me he knew there was a league or game coming up and it wasn't just a spur of the moment thing. What truly saddens me is the fact that our country is being divided this way. Whatever happened to a dirt bag being a dirt bag? Who cares if he was a Deplorable, with Her, or a Bernie Bro? This man went to take lives because of political affiliation. Doesn't that bother anyone? People are attempting to take lives of someone they don't agree with politically?

I'LL say it again. The internet. The fake news and spin are generally worse on the internet. All the stupid groups people get involved with usually start on the internet. Crap probably won't get any better.

Very little question about this ^^^.

I follow (mainly) sports stuff on the twitter, but have a number of follows of news sites and many of the DC "Mags"., blogs, sites I'm familiar with.

Even those that, when the article is read, can offer some decent coverage or a reasonable discussion of whatever it is covering, DO use the click bait method of unnecessarily inflammatory "headlines".

If it is true, and I have no reason to doubt it is, that most people only read headlines these days, that is an awful way for people to get their "information".

I can only imagine what goes on on "newsfeeds" at places like the facebook or other cesspool social media places. Sad!

(06-15-2017 09:08 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I was in my truck numb nuts listening to the show. I'm reading this through my phone. It was yesterday's show do they have transcripts of his show. Look there. Around 11:30 I believe. It was sickening.

Well, numb nuts certainly furthers the conversation. "I have become what I beheld".

(06-15-2017 09:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 09:08 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 08:57 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 07:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  For instance and this infuriated me. The D's were praying for the R's on an adjacent playing field. Rush fckin Limbaugh said on his show that these D's were just staging a photo op. What an *******!

Link?

Looks like a photo opportunity to me,

Why is it that, minutes after republican members of congress are gunned down on a baseball field, democrats seem to have no fear being on an adjacent field?

Not that is matters (much anyway), but this was no adjacent field.

One was in Alexandria, over the bridge from DC/ Maryland, the dims were on a field at Gallaudet College in DC. Relatively short distance, probably 15 miles or so, but certainly not "adjacent".

(06-15-2017 04:44 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 03:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The one's I love are the leftists on here who denigrate religion every chance they get and say that religion should have zero influence on political policy

Just for clarity: saying religion should have no place in politics is not denigrating religion.

Both have their places, which are and should be completely separate.

Learn some ******* reading comprehension before you comment for God's sake.

Here's what I said, with the key portion highlighted for you since you obviously couldn't understand it the first go round:

Quote:The one's I love are the leftists on here who denigrate religion every chance they get and say that religion should have zero influence on political policy

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/and

Quote:and
[and; unstressed uh nd, uh n, or, esp. after a homorganic consonant, n]


conjunction
1.
(used to connect grammatically coordinate words, phrases, or clauses) along or together with; as well as; in addition to; besides; also; moreover:
pens and pencils.
2.
added to; plus:
2 and 2 are 4.
3.
then:
He read for an hour and went to bed.
4.
also, at the same time:
to sleep and dream.
5.
then again; repeatedly:
He coughed and coughed.
6.
(used to imply different qualities in things having the same name):
There are bargains and bargains, so watch out.
7.
(used to introduce a sentence, implying continuation) also; then:
And then it happened.

Again, I highlighted the portion you should pay attention to.

I hope that breaking it down for you Barney-style will allow you to now understand.

Have they disavowed yet?

I skimmed through your childish huffing and puffing, Kaplony.

Glad to know you don't think religion should have a place within politics.

(06-15-2017 04:44 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 12:34 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Publicity, there is no such thing as bad publicity...

And that idiom has been proven wrong countless times.

Publicity, fine. And of course a PR firm is going to tell anyone who will listen that there is such a thing as bad publicity. That's how they make money.

So if I can find you one example of bad publicity you'll stop using that stupid saying.

(06-15-2017 07:46 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 04:44 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 12:34 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Publicity, there is no such thing as bad publicity...

And that idiom has been proven wrong countless times.

Publicity, fine. And of course a PR firm is going to tell anyone who will listen that there is such a thing as bad publicity. That's how they make money.

So if I can find you one example of bad publicity you'll stop using that stupid saying.

I bet Kathy Griffen doesn't think all publicity is good publicity anymore.

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Obama did it.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06...short_home

(06-15-2017 09:01 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Obama did it.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06...short_home

"I do want to put some of this at the feet of Barack Obama," King told an Iowa radio show, CNN reported Thursday. "He contributed mightily to dividing us. He focused on our differences rather than our things that unify us. And this is some of the fruits of that labor."

(06-15-2017 06:57 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  I skimmed through your childish huffing and puffing, Kaplony.

Glad to know you don't think religion should have a place within politics.

The only thing childish around here is your absolute dependence on the government, just like a child to a parent.

(06-15-2017 11:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The only thing childish around here is your absolute dependence on the government, just like a child to a parent.

More like a tapeworm is dependent upon a healthy host

(06-15-2017 11:18 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The only thing childish around here is your absolute dependence on the government, just like a child to a parent.

More like a tapeworm is dependent upon a healthy host

Starting to get the feeling you are right. It's starting to feel like Mpls is some government cubicle drone that doesn't really serve a purpose other than getting paid with taxpayer money.

CNN with their shenanigans again.. ******* disgusting. I didn't want to believe what they did until I actually went to their tweeter feed...



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(06-15-2017 11:48 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  CNN with their shenanigans again.. ******* disgusting. I didn't want to believe what they did until I actually went to their tweeter feed...



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That's about as disingenuous and intentionally misleading as you can get.
Little wonder the clintoon news network is now better known as FNN.

Fake.

Its getting too difficult to follow politics day to day.

This stuff is very unhealthy for everyone, and its getting dangerous.

(06-15-2017 11:48 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  CNN with their shenanigans again.. ******* disgusting. I didn't want to believe what they did until I actually went to their tweeter feed...



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I think you are missing the point. CNN, as an arm of the DNC, isn't trying to make the dim reps look good. As the propaganda arm of the anti-Christian party they are trying to point out who needs to go.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...34205.html Evan Bayh former D Senator from Indiana writes the editorial the Democratic leadership should have written.

"Twice in seven years members of Congress have been targets of political violence. We don’t know all the facts surrounding the attack on the Republican Conference’s baseball practice this morning. And we need to acknowledge that former Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords’ would-be assassin was the victim of psychological delusions. But we can’t dismiss the impact that fraught, if not apocalyptic, political rhetoric is having on those teetering near the edge.

Words alone don’t prompt shootings. But this recent spate of violence reflects a profound change in the culture of public discourse. In all too many cases government has become a venue for settling scores rather than solving problems. Angry, divisive words are setting the stage for the unhinged to act out. We need to acknowledge that change—and we need to find a new way forward...."

It feels like American politics has gotten to a crossroads. Either it will boil over into a civil war or people will realize their vitriol toward each other and begin to show restraint and understanding. Liberal and conservative extremist are to blame. Political correctness is also to blame.