We have domestic terrorism in Our own country going on daily, We notice it increasing weekly yet no one has an answer for it. Gang and drug related killings are happening at an alarming rate in ever city in the USA. Folks are getting caught in the crossfire including Women and Children. Heck even in My Suburban area yesterday 2 young black men were gunned down in Their apartment. Seems the death tolls in Gang related violence has exceded military deaths in recent years war zones. Folks no longer go into parts of cities They used to go without worries for fear of being shot, robbed or assualted. I feel sorry fo ones that can't get out and can't imagine the fear They have and heartbreak for loss of family members.last week a 16 year old was gunned down in Louisville just a few days after burying his 7 year old nephew shot while playing with his mothers Ipad at a kitchen table.

* Terrorism is systematic, when you kill or capture the bastards who perform an act the organization/ideology can just reload.
* Mass shootings are typically one nut job who, when killed or captured, ends the incident.

Terrorism is a symptom of a political ideology of oppression and fear. The cancer of Islam has always utilized this. It's a cancer that is incompatible with western liberty.

"Mass Shootings ", is a symptom of mental health issues and passification and ignoring prior documented criminal acts and mental issues.

(06-05-2017 11:17 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  * Terrorism is systematic, when you kill or capture the bastards who perform an act the organization/ideology can just reload.
* Mass shootings are typically one nut job who, when killed or captured, ends the incident.

But you are still missing the point. The point is that they do exactly the same thing. Why is one more upsetting than the other?

(06-05-2017 11:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 11:17 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  * Terrorism is systematic, when you kill or capture the bastards who perform an act the organization/ideology can just reload.
* Mass shootings are typically one nut job who, when killed or captured, ends the incident.

But you are still missing the point. The point is that they do exactly the same thing. Why is one more upsetting than the other?

Dude just go back to the definition. Terrorists have a political and or religious goal in mind. Mass shooters typically do not.

(06-05-2017 11:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 11:17 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  * Terrorism is systematic, when you kill or capture the bastards who perform an act the organization/ideology can just reload.
* Mass shootings are typically one nut job who, when killed or captured, ends the incident.

But you are still missing the point. The point is that they do exactly the same thing. Why is one more upsetting than the other?

For the same reason it would be more disturbing if packs of feral dogs were running around mauling people in concert than if your neighbors pit bull mauled someone.

Its not that difficult a concept.

So why do people believe we can stop one and not the other?

Firearms are a Constitutional right and a practical deterrence and defense to radical Islam and violent leftism.

Terrorism is neither a right nor practical.

(06-05-2017 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So why do people believe we can stop one and not the other?

Typical leftist arguing on behalf of radical Islam.

They are completely different by definition and motive. The end result off loss of life is the same but that's it.

I have a question for you Fit... of a person commits suicide by firearm , which accounts for most of gun homocides,... something must be done about firearms.

However , if another person commits suicide by hanging themselves, no one says a word about ropes.

Explain why?

(06-05-2017 11:55 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Firearms are a Constitutional right and a practical deterrence and defense to radical Islam and violent leftism.

Terrorism is neither a right nor practical.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about mass shootings.

(06-05-2017 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So why do people believe we can stop one and not the other?

for the same reason why people think we can stop climate change but not illegals crossing the border...

(06-05-2017 11:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 11:17 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  * Terrorism is systematic, when you kill or capture the bastards who perform an act the organization/ideology can just reload.
* Mass shootings are typically one nut job who, when killed or captured, ends the incident.

But you are still missing the point. The point is that they do exactly the same thing. Why is one more upsetting than the other?

They don't do the same thing, you can't compare the dynamics at play in each subset of murder. Terrorism is as useful for emotional impact to a groups psyche as it is for physically eliminating an enemy. Terrorism uses physical destruction as a means to a larger, broader end while with mass shootings immediate physical destruction is the end game.

(06-05-2017 12:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 11:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 11:17 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  * Terrorism is systematic, when you kill or capture the bastards who perform an act the organization/ideology can just reload.
* Mass shootings are typically one nut job who, when killed or captured, ends the incident.

But you are still missing the point. The point is that they do exactly the same thing. Why is one more upsetting than the other?

They don't do the same thing, you can't compare the dynamics at play in each subset of murder. Terrorism is as useful for emotional impact to a groups psyche as it is for physically eliminating an enemy. Terrorism uses physical destruction as a means to a larger, broader end while with mass shootings immediate physical destruction is the end game.

Can either one be stopped? Slowed down? If so how?

"Mass Shootings" in this country are a result of living in a free society.

Much can be done to deter these. But since 25% of the US population is taking some type of psychotropic drug ... I am surrounded by crazies.

(06-05-2017 12:04 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  "Mass Shootings" in this country are a result of living in a free society.

Much can be done to deter these. But since 25% of the US population is taking some type of psychotropic drug ... I am surrounded by crazies.

Thank you for actually attempting to address the situation rather than avoid the question.

Just as a reminder though, neither the Manchester thing, or the London thing, involved "gun violence".

They blew up kids, or ran over people and then knifed them.



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Fit do you understand the difference between acts of terror and "mass shootings" now?

Interesting how there have been more of both in Europe where firearms are illegal than in our free republic.

(06-05-2017 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So why do people believe we can stop one and not the other?

You cannot stop either. You can only hope to slow down and try to delay the next one. if its not ISIS its another spinoff of it. Just like you cannot stop crazy people.

but to play the political game, you try to say your way will "prevent" it, but if your honest you know it does nothing.

(06-05-2017 12:00 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So why do people believe we can stop one and not the other?

for the same reason why people think we can stop climate change but not illegals crossing the border...

I don't think we can stop either one. Do you?