University of Memphis head coach Tubby Smith was also in the field for Anderson's tournament. Smith said something needs to be done about the impact the NBA's one-and-done rule is having on college basketball. Smith added that anytime a coach can convince players with a pro future to stay in school an extra year it's a win-win situation for the coaches and fans, telling reporters, "It's huge anytime you get kids back where they have that type of talent it's going to make a difference in your program. So I know he's excited to have those guys back."

(05-25-2017 08:22 AM)Tiger65 Wrote:  University of Memphis head coach Tubby Smith was also in the field for Anderson's tournament. Smith said something needs to be done about the impact the NBA's one-and-done rule is having on college basketball. Smith added that anytime a coach can convince players with a pro future to stay in school an extra year it's a win-win situation for the coaches and fans, telling reporters, "It's huge anytime you get kids back where they have that type of talent it's going to make a difference in your program. So I know he's excited to have those guys back."

Ideally, that extra year would be spent preparing-business/accounting classes, even foreign languages (insert player name here). But I don't mind so much a kid bolting for the money, UNLESS he's getting bad info from his parents and/or posse.

It's crazy to think players back in the day (like Patrick Ewing) played 4 years in college. What were the rules back then?

Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?

Recent history has examples of players getting hurt (not so much in basketball, but say NCAA football) in their bowl games...and I think someone like Calipari will bring this up to a prospective NBA hopeful.
If you come back..you could get hurt..and you'll have no shot at the NBA.
Another example they could trot out is DeJaun Wagner who played for us at Memphis 1 year. Going in ti the NBA, he got really sick..and it brought an end to his NBA career.
If he had come back for another year at Memphis..they might not have caught it...and it would have ended his college career as well...and he never would have signed a NBA paycheck at all.

(05-25-2017 09:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  It's crazy to think players back in the day (like Patrick Ewing) played 4 years in college. What were the rules back then?

The culture was different back then.

(05-25-2017 08:22 AM)Tiger65 Wrote:  University of Memphis head coach Tubby Smith was also in the field for Anderson's tournament. Smith said something needs to be done about the impact the NBA's one-and-done rule is having on college basketball. Smith added that anytime a coach can convince players with a pro future to stay in school an extra year it's a win-win situation for the coaches and fans, telling reporters, "It's huge anytime you get kids back where they have that type of talent it's going to make a difference in your program. So I know he's excited to have those guys back."

Old school baby!!!!!
















In a new school world.

(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?

It really is insane that any D1 coach in any sport would want kids to not go make money so "coaches and fans can have a win win situation" while being too stupid to realize he is asking the kid to enter into a lose lose situation. That is not only directed at Tubby but any coach that feels this way.

The one and done is an NBA rule. I think a lot of people think the colleges created it. It was implemented to protect the NBA front offices from themselves. They got a free one year farm system out of it.

Isn't having one-and-done players sort of a hypothetical discussion for Tubby?

The problem with "one and done" is that the players are most likely getting paid to play in college in what is euphemistically called an amateur sport. The rule is an NBA rule that needs to go bye bye. If you want to be a pro, go pro. Don't go to college with your hand out.

(05-25-2017 11:22 AM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  Isn't having one-and-done players sort of a hypothetical discussion for Tubby?

No, see his transfer list.

Tubby cleaning this program down with Clorox. Get that culture right :)

(05-25-2017 11:22 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  The one and done is an NBA rule. I think a lot of people think the colleges created it. It was implemented to protect the NBA front offices from themselves. They got a free one year farm system out of it.

Heck, the owners would much rather go to 2 years in college but the players association will never agree to it without some major concessions elsewhere.

(05-25-2017 11:18 AM)FUT Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?

It really is insane that any D1 coach in any sport would want kids to not go make money so "coaches and fans can have a win win situation" while being too stupid to realize he is asking the kid to enter into a lose lose situation. That is not only directed at Tubby but any coach that feels this way.

Makes the coach look self centered. A player who can go in the first round, should move on while his body parts are still functioning. He can get mentored by some of the successful guys already there.

(05-25-2017 01:45 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 11:18 AM)FUT Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?

It really is insane that any D1 coach in any sport would want kids to not go make money so "coaches and fans can have a win win situation" while being too stupid to realize he is asking the kid to enter into a lose lose situation. That is not only directed at Tubby but any coach that feels this way.

Makes the coach look self centered. A player who can go in the first round, should move on while his body parts are still functioning. He can get mentored by some of the successful guys already there.

Yup...First round is key though...

Guaranteed Money...And if the league doesn't want to draft kids who have only played 1 year in college don't draft them. There shouldn't be any free training grounds

(05-25-2017 08:22 AM)Tiger65 Wrote:  University of Memphis head coach Tubby Smith was also in the field for Anderson's tournament. Smith said something needs to be done about the impact the NBA's one-and-done rule is having on college basketball. Smith added that anytime a coach can convince players with a pro future to stay in school an extra year it's a win-win situation for the coaches and fans, telling reporters, "It's huge anytime you get kids back where they have that type of talent it's going to make a difference in your program. So I know he's excited to have those guys back."

Translation:"I cannot sign any of these type players so we need to do something about them"


Every sport should adopt the rule for baseball. You can be drafted out of high school. If you chose not to sign then you go to college. But if you go to college you are not eligible for draft again until after your Jr year.

(05-25-2017 10:05 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Recent history has examples of players getting hurt (not so much in basketball, but say NCAA football) in their bowl games...and I think someone like Calipari will bring this up to a prospective NBA hopeful.
If you come back..you could get hurt..and you'll have no shot at the NBA.
Another example they could trot out is DeJaun Wagner who played for us at Memphis 1 year. Going in ti the NBA, he got really sick..and it brought an end to his NBA career.
If he had come back for another year at Memphis..they might not have caught it...and it would have ended his college career as well...and he never would have signed a NBA paycheck at all.

The problem is TOO many of these kids thinks sports are their ONLY way to make it.They do not take advantage of the benefits offered to them and when they fail to make it in sports or have an injury. They find themselves right back where they came years older and no better off than when they started.

It they blow through what they earned quickly and end up busted or ending up trying to maintain their lifestyle though any means possible.

Tubby probably has never talked to a one and done player so of course he doesn't understand

(05-25-2017 02:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 01:45 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 11:18 AM)FUT Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?

It really is insane that any D1 coach in any sport would want kids to not go make money so "coaches and fans can have a win win situation" while being too stupid to realize he is asking the kid to enter into a lose lose situation. That is not only directed at Tubby but any coach that feels this way.

Makes the coach look self centered. A player who can go in the first round, should move on while his body parts are still functioning. He can get mentored by some of the successful guys already there.

Yup...First round is key though...

Guaranteed Money...And if the league doesn't want to draft kids who have only played 1 year in college don't draft them. There shouldn't be any free training grounds

Not anymore. Most 2nd round guys are getting some sort of guarantee plus D league (i mean G league) salaries are about to go up.