(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 09:00 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:49 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:25 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 06:06 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  Agreed. This was a bad move by Troy. Should have been a 2 for 1 (obviously in Troy's favor) or no deal. Unless Liberty wrote you guys a big check for a 1 and 1 especially with you guys going there first, you just got outsmarted by the slow kid with an online degree.

That being said, I'm deathly afraid that Coastal will announce a similarly idiotic deal in the coming year. Believe me, I'll be even MORE critical of us if we do it.

I like how everyone is speculating it's a bad move for Troy, yet all of you are clueless since none of you are in the athletic department that knows what was negotiated in the contract.

For all of you saying that it was a "bad move" by Troy, are you afraid for your team to play Liberty and lose to them? Or are you afraid that they have cooties that will infect your football team? Or is it simply because it's Liberty and no one should associate with them by playing them in football, which is absolutely stupid if you think that.

Get over yourselves and grow a pair. Like I've mentioned in some other posts, Troy's motto used to be "anyone, anywhere, anytime." Most of your football teams probably have the same mindset. Liberty is no different. If your team is worth their salt, go play Liberty and stomp them into an oblivion...

I'm afraid to play them because it is an absolute no win scenario for Coastal. We could beat them 77-0 and the casual SC sports fan would just see another FCS game. That is what Coastal is going to be battling to get away from.

My fear of playing a program like liberty has nothing to do with what happens on the field (our series with them is tied all time, and last time we played them we hammer stomped them neck deep in the ground). My fear comes from what the casual observer in the state will see when we play them. Perception is reality and it matters.

So your intent to not play LU is how the perception of the "casual SC sports fan" will continue to perceive Coastal. That's interesting, and a real twist not to want to play LU. Very unusual when the perception of a casual fan drives scheduling.

Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

(05-15-2017 08:49 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 06:06 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)T2003 Wrote:  They should come to our place first and it should be at least a 2 for 1. I don't like it!

Agreed. This was a bad move by Troy. Should have been a 2 for 1 (obviously in Troy's favor) or no deal. Unless Liberty wrote you guys a big check for a 1 and 1 especially with you guys going there first, you just got outsmarted by the slow kid with an online degree.

That being said, I'm deathly afraid that Coastal will announce a similarly idiotic deal in the coming year. Believe me, I'll be even MORE critical of us if we do it.

You are what one year ahead of them in moving up.....Lol....really. They draw twice as many people to their games.....Wow. That is funny.

As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

So you'd be fine with CCU taking a 2-1 from an "established" CUSA or MAC team?

I'd be fine with CCU taking a 2-1 from an established AAC team.

(05-15-2017 10:28 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 09:00 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:49 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:25 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I like how everyone is speculating it's a bad move for Troy, yet all of you are clueless since none of you are in the athletic department that knows what was negotiated in the contract.

For all of you saying that it was a "bad move" by Troy, are you afraid for your team to play Liberty and lose to them? Or are you afraid that they have cooties that will infect your football team? Or is it simply because it's Liberty and no one should associate with them by playing them in football, which is absolutely stupid if you think that.

Get over yourselves and grow a pair. Like I've mentioned in some other posts, Troy's motto used to be "anyone, anywhere, anytime." Most of your football teams probably have the same mindset. Liberty is no different. If your team is worth their salt, go play Liberty and stomp them into an oblivion...

I'm afraid to play them because it is an absolute no win scenario for Coastal. We could beat them 77-0 and the casual SC sports fan would just see another FCS game. That is what Coastal is going to be battling to get away from.

My fear of playing a program like liberty has nothing to do with what happens on the field (our series with them is tied all time, and last time we played them we hammer stomped them neck deep in the ground). My fear comes from what the casual observer in the state will see when we play them. Perception is reality and it matters.

So your intent to not play LU is how the perception of the "casual SC sports fan" will continue to perceive Coastal. That's interesting, and a real twist not to want to play LU. Very unusual when the perception of a casual fan drives scheduling.

Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

Either way I see his point. They moved up to differentiate themselves from the FCS and y'all. Clearly some of their fans don't want to be associated with you or that perception. I'm sure over on the east coast y'all are more well known for better or worse, but casual Coastal fans might still think you're FCS and be like "why tf are we playing at an FCS school?". Obviously y'all won't be FCS anymore but we all know how uninformed people can be.

(05-15-2017 10:38 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:28 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 09:00 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:49 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  I'm afraid to play them because it is an absolute no win scenario for Coastal. We could beat them 77-0 and the casual SC sports fan would just see another FCS game. That is what Coastal is going to be battling to get away from.

My fear of playing a program like liberty has nothing to do with what happens on the field (our series with them is tied all time, and last time we played them we hammer stomped them neck deep in the ground). My fear comes from what the casual observer in the state will see when we play them. Perception is reality and it matters.

So your intent to not play LU is how the perception of the "casual SC sports fan" will continue to perceive Coastal. That's interesting, and a real twist not to want to play LU. Very unusual when the perception of a casual fan drives scheduling.

Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

Either way I see his point. They moved up to differentiate themselves from the FCS and y'all. Clearly some of their fans don't want to be associated with you or that perception. I'm sure over on the east coast y'all are more well known for better or worse, but casual Coastal fans might still think you're FCS and be like "why tf are we playing at an FCS school?". Obviously y'all won't be FCS anymore but we all know how uninformed people can be.

Exactly. Glad someone gets it.

And I still can't figure out for the life of me why any Liberty fan would want to continue playing us. We should both avoid each other like the plague.

It comes down to what I keep saying. They're desperate. Playing both sides of a H/H in one year shows just how desperate they are.

(05-15-2017 10:38 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:28 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 09:00 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:49 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  I'm afraid to play them because it is an absolute no win scenario for Coastal. We could beat them 77-0 and the casual SC sports fan would just see another FCS game. That is what Coastal is going to be battling to get away from.

My fear of playing a program like liberty has nothing to do with what happens on the field (our series with them is tied all time, and last time we played them we hammer stomped them neck deep in the ground). My fear comes from what the casual observer in the state will see when we play them. Perception is reality and it matters.

So your intent to not play LU is how the perception of the "casual SC sports fan" will continue to perceive Coastal. That's interesting, and a real twist not to want to play LU. Very unusual when the perception of a casual fan drives scheduling.

Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

Either way I see his point. They moved up to differentiate themselves from the FCS and y'all. Clearly some of their fans don't want to be associated with you or that perception. I'm sure over on the east coast y'all are more well known for better or worse, but casual Coastal fans might still think you're FCS and be like "why tf are we playing at an FCS school?". Obviously y'all won't be FCS anymore but we all know how uninformed people can be.

BC, I think Coastal's challenge is to build a fan base for home games, build a base of fans to travel, rather than to be concerned about the perception and implication of playing LU. Coastal biggest rival game just one year removed was LU. The Big South Conference recognized that as that was the final season for both teams for the past 5 years. I get why CCU would want to distance itself from LU, as LU will look to generate rivalries with teams with active fan bases. What pumps up home fans is when thousands of visiting fans cheer for their team in your stadium. LU did that when they traveled to Coastal, it was not thre case when Coastal came to LU.

(05-15-2017 10:50 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:38 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:28 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 09:00 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  So your intent to not play LU is how the perception of the "casual SC sports fan" will continue to perceive Coastal. That's interesting, and a real twist not to want to play LU. Very unusual when the perception of a casual fan drives scheduling.

Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

Either way I see his point. They moved up to differentiate themselves from the FCS and y'all. Clearly some of their fans don't want to be associated with you or that perception. I'm sure over on the east coast y'all are more well known for better or worse, but casual Coastal fans might still think you're FCS and be like "why tf are we playing at an FCS school?". Obviously y'all won't be FCS anymore but we all know how uninformed people can be.

BC, I think Coastal's challenge is to build a fan base for home games, build a base of fans to travel, rather than to be concerned about the perception and implication of playing LU. Coastal biggest rival game just one year removed was LU. The Big South Conference recognized that as that was the final season for both teams for the past 5 years. I get why CCU would want to distance itself from LU, as LU will look to generate rivalries with teams with active fan bases. What pumps up home fans is when thousands of visiting fans cheer for their team in your stadium. LU did that when they traveled to Coastal, it was not thre case when Coastal came to LU.

Ok. Then since our traveling fan base is below your elite standards, then you should avoid playing lowly Coastal as well, right?

Looks like we agree. You don't want to play us and we don't want to play you.

(05-15-2017 10:50 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:38 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:28 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 09:00 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  So your intent to not play LU is how the perception of the "casual SC sports fan" will continue to perceive Coastal. That's interesting, and a real twist not to want to play LU. Very unusual when the perception of a casual fan drives scheduling.

Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

Either way I see his point. They moved up to differentiate themselves from the FCS and y'all. Clearly some of their fans don't want to be associated with you or that perception. I'm sure over on the east coast y'all are more well known for better or worse, but casual Coastal fans might still think you're FCS and be like "why tf are we playing at an FCS school?". Obviously y'all won't be FCS anymore but we all know how uninformed people can be.

BC, I think Coastal's challenge is to build a fan base for home games, build a base of fans to travel, rather than to be concerned about the perception and implication of playing LU. Coastal biggest rival game just one year removed was LU. The Big South Conference recognized that as that was the final season for both teams for the past 5 years. I get why CCU would want to distance itself from LU, as LU will look to generate rivalries with teams with active fan bases. What pumps up home fans is when thousands of visiting fans cheer for their team in your stadium. LU did that when they traveled to Coastal, it was not thre case when Coastal came to LU.

I think this is a silly conversation but one point of correction - Liberty didn't travel all that well to Coastal. They certainly didn't bring thousands of fans.

(05-15-2017 11:08 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:50 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:38 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:28 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Well one could argue that it does. Theres a reason FBS teams don't play at FCS schools and some p5s don't play at G5s or play FCS schools at all. Because they think it will lower their perception.

We're talking Coastal. One year ahead of LU in FBS full recognition. Any G5 or better school with some longevity yes. Coastal no.

Either way I see his point. They moved up to differentiate themselves from the FCS and y'all. Clearly some of their fans don't want to be associated with you or that perception. I'm sure over on the east coast y'all are more well known for better or worse, but casual Coastal fans might still think you're FCS and be like "why tf are we playing at an FCS school?". Obviously y'all won't be FCS anymore but we all know how uninformed people can be.

BC, I think Coastal's challenge is to build a fan base for home games, build a base of fans to travel, rather than to be concerned about the perception and implication of playing LU. Coastal biggest rival game just one year removed was LU. The Big South Conference recognized that as that was the final season for both teams for the past 5 years. I get why CCU would want to distance itself from LU, as LU will look to generate rivalries with teams with active fan bases. What pumps up home fans is when thousands of visiting fans cheer for their team in your stadium. LU did that when they traveled to Coastal, it was not thre case when Coastal came to LU.

I think this is a silly conversation but one point of correction - Liberty didn't travel all that well to Coastal. They certainly didn't bring thousands of fans.

Exactly. They brought maybe a couple hundred more fans than any other BSC school. That's it.

But hey, perception is reality!

(05-15-2017 08:12 AM)AppinSC Wrote:  Can't even imagine how tough it would be to build a schedule as an independent today. Noticed a couple of Liberty's upcoming seasons during which they play a home and home with New Mexico State during the same season.

I can't believe that this comment didn't get more reaction, I saw the same thing. I know they are both independents in need of games, but good lord, that is the weirdest thing I've ever seen on a FB schedule.

Congrats to Liberty though, one playoff appearance in the FCS and that goes back to 1989. So far they have a great ROI

(05-15-2017 11:39 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 08:12 AM)AppinSC Wrote:  Can't even imagine how tough it would be to build a schedule as an independent today. Noticed a couple of Liberty's upcoming seasons during which they play a home and home with New Mexico State during the same season.

I can't believe that this comment didn't get more reaction, I saw the same thing. I know they are both independents in need of games, but good lord, that is the weirdest thing I've ever seen on a FB schedule.

It's called desperation. Anybody trying to argue that they aren't desperate need only be pointed to this fact. No program would ever do that under normal circumstances.

(05-15-2017 12:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 11:39 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 08:12 AM)AppinSC Wrote:  Can't even imagine how tough it would be to build a schedule as an independent today. Noticed a couple of Liberty's upcoming seasons during which they play a home and home with New Mexico State during the same season.

I can't believe that this comment didn't get more reaction, I saw the same thing. I know they are both independents in need of games, but good lord, that is the weirdest thing I've ever seen on a FB schedule.

It's called desperation. Anybody trying to argue that they aren't desperate need only be pointed to this fact. No program would ever do that under normal circumstances.

Yes but it appears New Mexico St was the more desperate of the two since Liberty was only required to have three FBS home games in 2018. NMSU made 4 so from an outsider looking in the only reason to do this that I can see is that NMSU needed it and Liberty helped them out.

(05-15-2017 12:25 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 06:06 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 06:28 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  They come to Troy in 2021.


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They should come to our place first and it should be at least a 2 for 1. I don't like it!

Agreed. This was a bad move by Troy. Should have been a 2 for 1 (obviously in Troy's favor) or no deal. Unless Liberty wrote you guys a big check for a 1 and 1 especially with you guys going there first, you just got outsmarted by the slow kid with an online degree.

That being said, I'm deathly afraid that Coastal will announce a similarly idiotic deal in the coming year. Believe me, I'll be even MORE critical of us if we do it.

I like how everyone is speculating it's a bad move for Troy, yet all of you are clueless since none of you are in the athletic department that knows what was negotiated in the contract.

For all of you saying that it was a "bad move" by Troy, are you afraid for your team to play Liberty and lose to them? Or are you afraid that they have cooties that will infect your football team? Or is it simply because it's Liberty and no one should associate with them by playing them in football, which is absolutely stupid if you think that.

Get over yourselves and grow a pair. Like I've mentioned in some other posts, Troy's motto used to be "anyone, anywhere, anytime." Most of your football teams probably have the same mindset. Liberty is no different. If your team is worth their salt, go play Liberty and stomp them into an oblivion...

I don't know about "bad move" but I don't see the benefit for Troy unless Liberty is sweetening the pot financially

You guys don't recruit Virginia, Liberty is not a name program, there's no major TV thing to bring into play, and a no name school like Liberty isn't going to attract any more fans to your home half of the game.

It looks like a "warm body" game to me. Liberty needed a game, UMass and Troy helped get them one.

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 06:06 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 06:28 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  They come to Troy in 2021.


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They should come to our place first and it should be at least a 2 for 1. I don't like it!

Agreed. This was a bad move by Troy. Should have been a 2 for 1 (obviously in Troy's favor) or no deal. Unless Liberty wrote you guys a big check for a 1 and 1 especially with you guys going there first, you just got outsmarted by the slow kid with an online degree.

That being said, I'm deathly afraid that Coastal will announce a similarly idiotic deal in the coming year. Believe me, I'll be even MORE critical of us if we do it.

You are what one year ahead of them in moving up.....Lol....really. They draw twice as many people to their games.....Wow. That is funny.

As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

(05-15-2017 12:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 06:06 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)T2003 Wrote:  They should come to our place first and it should be at least a 2 for 1. I don't like it!

Agreed. This was a bad move by Troy. Should have been a 2 for 1 (obviously in Troy's favor) or no deal. Unless Liberty wrote you guys a big check for a 1 and 1 especially with you guys going there first, you just got outsmarted by the slow kid with an online degree.

That being said, I'm deathly afraid that Coastal will announce a similarly idiotic deal in the coming year. Believe me, I'll be even MORE critical of us if we do it.

You are what one year ahead of them in moving up.....Lol....really. They draw twice as many people to their games.....Wow. That is funny.

As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

You're joking, right? Do I need to point out the obvious to you?

Coastal is a public school that is basically working on 0 budget from the state. Liberty is run like a business with a fuel supply of online shell degrees.

Do you really think that comparing what Coastal's AD has done with limited resources at a public university to what an AD at a private school with limitless money to write blank checks is a fair comparison?

Why do you think super old rich guys marry women half their age? It's easy to buy games. Which is what I've said all along and will continue to say. If Troy got a big fat check for this, then it's all good. It's only a bad move if they got no money for it.

(05-15-2017 12:55 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 06:06 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  Agreed. This was a bad move by Troy. Should have been a 2 for 1 (obviously in Troy's favor) or no deal. Unless Liberty wrote you guys a big check for a 1 and 1 especially with you guys going there first, you just got outsmarted by the slow kid with an online degree.

That being said, I'm deathly afraid that Coastal will announce a similarly idiotic deal in the coming year. Believe me, I'll be even MORE critical of us if we do it.

You are what one year ahead of them in moving up.....Lol....really. They draw twice as many people to their games.....Wow. That is funny.

As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

You're joking, right? Do I need to point out the obvious to you?

Coastal is a public school that is basically working on 0 budget from the state. Liberty is run like a business with a fuel supply of online shell degrees.

Do you really think that comparing what Coastal's AD has done with limited resources at a public university to what an AD at a private school with limitless money to write blank checks is a fair comparison?

Why do you think super old rich guys marry women half their age? It's easy to buy games. Which is what I've said all along and will continue to say. If Troy got a big fat check for this, then it's all good. It's only a bad move if they got no money for it.

And what I am saying is you are basing this off of assumptions. There has been nothing saying they've paid for games.

(05-15-2017 01:59 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:55 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  You are what one year ahead of them in moving up.....Lol....really. They draw twice as many people to their games.....Wow. That is funny.

As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

You're joking, right? Do I need to point out the obvious to you?

Coastal is a public school that is basically working on 0 budget from the state. Liberty is run like a business with a fuel supply of online shell degrees.

Do you really think that comparing what Coastal's AD has done with limited resources at a public university to what an AD at a private school with limitless money to write blank checks is a fair comparison?

Why do you think super old rich guys marry women half their age? It's easy to buy games. Which is what I've said all along and will continue to say. If Troy got a big fat check for this, then it's all good. It's only a bad move if they got no money for it.

And what I am saying is you are basing this off of assumptions. There has been nothing saying they've paid for games.

They've almost certainly had to have opened their wallets to make some of these games happen.

(05-15-2017 01:59 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:55 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  You are what one year ahead of them in moving up.....Lol....really. They draw twice as many people to their games.....Wow. That is funny.

As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

You're joking, right? Do I need to point out the obvious to you?

Coastal is a public school that is basically working on 0 budget from the state. Liberty is run like a business with a fuel supply of online shell degrees.

Do you really think that comparing what Coastal's AD has done with limited resources at a public university to what an AD at a private school with limitless money to write blank checks is a fair comparison?

Why do you think super old rich guys marry women half their age? It's easy to buy games. Which is what I've said all along and will continue to say. If Troy got a big fat check for this, then it's all good. It's only a bad move if they got no money for it.

And what I am saying is you are basing this off of assumptions. There has been nothing saying they've paid for games.

No that's not what you were saying. Now you're making a different argument.

But logic and common sense tells you they're paying for the games.

As others have pointed out...what was in it for Troy to rearrange their schedule with UMass to make this work?

Your assumption is they did it just because they apparently had a burning desire to sign a super hot H/H series with Big Time Liberty!

My assumption is that they got financially incentivized to do it.

Which makes the most sense?

(05-15-2017 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 01:59 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:55 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 07:43 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  As I've said in other threads, for the EXACT reason you just posted, Coastal should not play them.

Coastal is fighting a perception battle in the state of SC as "still being FCS" and we will continue to fight that battle for years. Continuining to play a team that we played every year in FCS to the casual fan in SC will just solidify in their minds that we "never moved up."

So it's funny that you posted something to try and tear apart my stance, but you instead just proved my point further. Thank you.

And just for the record, I've also posted on here many times that it wouldn't be good for Liberty if they scheduled us for the same exact reasons it would be bad for us.

The reason Troy shouldn't be scheduling a H/H with them with no money involved are different than Coastal's. Troy is an established program that should consider themselves above that unless they got paid a boat load. Which maybe they did. I HOPE they did. I really do.

Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

You're joking, right? Do I need to point out the obvious to you?

Coastal is a public school that is basically working on 0 budget from the state. Liberty is run like a business with a fuel supply of online shell degrees.

Do you really think that comparing what Coastal's AD has done with limited resources at a public university to what an AD at a private school with limitless money to write blank checks is a fair comparison?

Why do you think super old rich guys marry women half their age? It's easy to buy games. Which is what I've said all along and will continue to say. If Troy got a big fat check for this, then it's all good. It's only a bad move if they got no money for it.

And what I am saying is you are basing this off of assumptions. There has been nothing saying they've paid for games.

They've almost certainly had to have opened their wallets to make some of these games happen.

They absolutely did. It's common sense.

I've said it from the beginning. They'll get games but they'll pay dearly for them. But they have a lot of money so they don't mind. So it works for them.

(05-15-2017 03:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 01:59 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:55 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 12:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  Why would Troy be above it if BYU wasn't. I'm mean come on, they've done much better in the few months of scheduling than CCU has in the past year and change. H/H with BYU and 2/1's with two ACC schools is a much better deal than a 2/1 with Kansas. Just saying

You're joking, right? Do I need to point out the obvious to you?

Coastal is a public school that is basically working on 0 budget from the state. Liberty is run like a business with a fuel supply of online shell degrees.

Do you really think that comparing what Coastal's AD has done with limited resources at a public university to what an AD at a private school with limitless money to write blank checks is a fair comparison?

Why do you think super old rich guys marry women half their age? It's easy to buy games. Which is what I've said all along and will continue to say. If Troy got a big fat check for this, then it's all good. It's only a bad move if they got no money for it.

And what I am saying is you are basing this off of assumptions. There has been nothing saying they've paid for games.

They've almost certainly had to have opened their wallets to make some of these games happen.

They absolutely did. It's common sense.

I've said it from the beginning. They'll get games but they'll pay dearly for them. But they have a lot of money so they don't mind. So it works for them.

I think they'll be fine eventually. ODU will do a H&H with them and I"m sure plenty more will. It was just a rush to get these first few years down.