(05-11-2017 03:15 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 10:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  The only issue I have with ULM is their inability to look within at their two large self inflicted wounds. The selling of their soul to get in the SBC and rolling over on the Indian mascot. Crippled themselves marketing wise for years. Nobody forced these decisions, they just gave up the ghost on their history. Can't go back in time, it is what it is. This more than anything lead to angry supports and lack of support. At their own hands, not the fault of anyone but their own leadership. Don't blame others or whine when Lafayette uses UL. What the heck anyone up there was going to happen, especially after ULM tired and failed first on hijacking the UL handle?

Other than that, I have friends that went there and I honestly hope they do well.

Obviously you know absolutely nothing about the Native American nickname and the NCAA.

I don't know about stAte but the Indian nickname for ULM was a tribute to the Ouachita Indians and never intended to be disrespectful. This PC stuff is nonsense. Are the Washington Redskins (I know it isn't NCAA) going to be forced to change their name? I hope not. Are the Florida State Seminoles? I hope not. ULM did take the easy way out and avoided a possible legal fight they couldn't afford. The NCAA will pick on the little guy.

You know, no one has been more "ridiculed" than Americans from the south. I put that in parenthesis because I never considered Hollywood's portrayal of us as being offensive. It was just comedy and I enjoyed all those shows. For different reasons, a TV show as harmless as "Hee Haw" couldn't be on major network air today because it would be considered sexist and offensive. Now, with our nation and own governor denying history it has become a different issue. That is not comedy. It is tragic.

Everything offends someone these days and social media allows many to believe they are "reporters." Half of what they call news today is what someone tweeted. It is ridiculous.

(05-11-2017 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  You guys all want to talk budgets, ULM has had a small budget for years and it hasn't kept them from wins on the field. Have they won championships, maybe not, but last time I checked I have never seen "Budget" on the back of a jersey.

Budgets help with recruiting, because with a larger budget you might have nicer facilities. But once you run out on the field, budgets no longer matter. You have to execute, and win the game, no matter what your budget is.

As an SBC member, ULM has some of the bigger wins for the conference, against SEC competition, that had much larger budgets then ULM.

Huge budgets have destroyed college athletics, at least as college athletics should be. Sooner or later, the insanity will stop.

(05-11-2017 07:11 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:07 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 07:52 PM)Golota Wrote:  ULM seems to get bashed more than othe schools on this site. Just wondering do any of y'all respect ULM? Like ULM? Care about ULM? We seem to be left out of most conference realignment talk.
How bad are the teams we actually beat? When we actually win.

I would like to know opinions. Are most people bashing ULM superior enough to play at ULM?

Most of the criticism of ULM from SBC conference brethren comes from the school that ULM shares a name.

That's illogical, since none of the schools in the SBC share the same name.

OK. But they share 2 out of 3 letters in the acronyms of the schools.

(05-08-2017 04:44 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  ULM's problem is one of perception.

Yes, ULM's president may not care for athletics, but was a smart move to quit putting resources into a fight over another university's marketing.

True. And when one school wants to drop the city designation and/or just use Louisiana, the perception is that the other school is lower in the UL System hierarchy, which the law clearly states is not the case.

(05-11-2017 10:03 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 04:44 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  ULM's problem is one of perception.

Yes, ULM's president may not care for athletics, but was a smart move to quit putting resources into a fight over another university's marketing.

True. And when one school wants to drop the city designation and/or just use Louisiana, the perception is that the other school is lower in the UL System hierarchy, which the law clearly states is not the case.

LOL

(05-11-2017 12:21 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  You guys all want to talk budgets, ULM has had a small budget for years and it hasn't kept them from wins on the field. Have they won championships, maybe not, but last time I checked I have never seen "Budget" on the back of a jersey.

Budgets help with recruiting, because with a larger budget you might have nicer facilities. But once you run out on the field, budgets no longer matter. You have to execute, and win the game, no matter what your budget is.

As an SBC member, ULM has some of the bigger wins for the conference, against SEC competition, that had much larger budgets then ULM.

Very true. I'll be happy to compare P5 wins with any of you.

Has any other La school that is a member of the SBC ever defeated a P5 school or won an outright SBC championship?

(05-11-2017 10:03 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 04:44 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  ULM's problem is one of perception.

Yes, ULM's president may not care for athletics, but was a smart move to quit putting resources into a fight over another university's marketing.

True. And when one school wants to drop the city designation and/or just use Louisiana, the perception is that the other school is lower in the UL System hierarchy, which the law clearly states is not the case.

That is your perception. Your opinion. And it is worth about that much.
Louisiana is doing nothing whatsoever illegal.
And neither is the SBC.
And neither is the NCAA.

(05-11-2017 09:48 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:11 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:07 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 07:52 PM)Golota Wrote:  ULM seems to get bashed more than othe schools on this site. Just wondering do any of y'all respect ULM? Like ULM? Care about ULM? We seem to be left out of most conference realignment talk.
How bad are the teams we actually beat? When we actually win.

I would like to know opinions. Are most people bashing ULM superior enough to play at ULM?

Most of the criticism of ULM from SBC conference brethren comes from the school that ULM shares a name.

That's illogical, since none of the schools in the SBC share the same name.

OK. But they share 2 out of 3 letters in the acronyms of the schools.

That is even more illogical than your first statement.

(05-11-2017 09:48 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:11 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:07 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 07:52 PM)Golota Wrote:  ULM seems to get bashed more than othe schools on this site. Just wondering do any of y'all respect ULM? Like ULM? Care about ULM? We seem to be left out of most conference realignment talk.
How bad are the teams we actually beat? When we actually win.

I would like to know opinions. Are most people bashing ULM superior enough to play at ULM?

Most of the criticism of ULM from SBC conference brethren comes from the school that ULM shares a name.

That's illogical, since none of the schools in the SBC share the same name.

OK. But they share 2 out of 3 letters in the acronyms of the schools.

So does LTU. What's your point?

(05-12-2017 08:53 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:48 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:11 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:07 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 07:52 PM)Golota Wrote:  ULM seems to get bashed more than othe schools on this site. Just wondering do any of y'all respect ULM? Like ULM? Care about ULM? We seem to be left out of most conference realignment talk.
How bad are the teams we actually beat? When we actually win.

I would like to know opinions. Are most people bashing ULM superior enough to play at ULM?

Most of the criticism of ULM from SBC conference brethren comes from the school that ULM shares a name.

That's illogical, since none of the schools in the SBC share the same name.

OK. But they share 2 out of 3 letters in the acronyms of the schools.

So does LTU. What's your point?

(05-12-2017 08:53 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:48 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:11 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:07 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 07:52 PM)Golota Wrote:  ULM seems to get bashed more than othe schools on this site. Just wondering do any of y'all respect ULM? Like ULM? Care about ULM? We seem to be left out of most conference realignment talk.
How bad are the teams we actually beat? When we actually win.

I would like to know opinions. Are most people bashing ULM superior enough to play at ULM?

Most of the criticism of ULM from SBC conference brethren comes from the school that ULM shares a name.

That's illogical, since none of the schools in the SBC share the same name.

OK. But they share 2 out of 3 letters in the acronyms of the schools.

So does LTU. What's your point?

I answered a question. What is your point?

(05-12-2017 01:46 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 10:03 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 04:44 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  ULM's problem is one of perception.

Yes, ULM's president may not care for athletics, but was a smart move to quit putting resources into a fight over another university's marketing.

True. And when one school wants to drop the city designation and/or just use Louisiana, the perception is that the other school is lower in the UL System hierarchy, which the law clearly states is not the case.

That is your perception. Your opinion. And it is worth about that much.
Louisiana is doing nothing whatsoever illegal.
And neither is the SBC.
And neither is the NCAA.

It is many people's opinion, including the legislator that authored the bill that allowed the name change. You were furnished the article where he stated that. Yet, you didn't accept it and described the legislator as something like 'a stupid redneck North Louisiana legislator' and that what his opinion didn't matter. You choose to deny that article as factual, as you did the Forbes magazine article, but choose to believe the articles you cited earlier in this thread.

No school in the University of Louisiana System agrees with ULLs stance on the issue that your school created. I certainly have never read where the NCAA goes along with it either, but will not dispute your claim. You claim others "whine," but it is ULLs constant whining about it that caused the issue. No other school in La agrees with yours, so for you to seemingly claim there is a consensus is completely untrue.

Why the SBC chooses to favor ULL over ULM in the name game is inexplicable to me, as it is clearly to ULMs detriment. Maybe they just tired of ULLs constant whining and complaining.

You call yourself what you want and I will call you what I want. That's fair. Clearly, it is an issue between ULL and ULM as no other school in the UL System chose to participate in the @ City nonsense. I am quite sure that no NLU/ULM alum, including myself, favors your claim.

DENNIS: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up, will you? Shut up!

There isnt any legislation/laws prohibiting the usage of Louisiana as a stand alone reference.
The 'law' prohibiting UL is unenforceable, holds no weight and is laughable.
So your huge word salad is pointless.
And you are also of the opinion that @ruston didn't turn down the 2012 Indy bowl, so there's that, too.


Gomer Pyle: "Citizens arrest!!! Citizens arrest!!!!"

I recall a few weeks back sitting down watching the Cajuns play LSU on my television. Didn't see anyone crying about "Louisiana" in the stands or the message boards. It only seems to be an ongoing cry fest in Ruston on Barks and Bytes. Monroe seems to be moving on, other than their beat writer who recycles the same tired article every few months, resulting in less than a dozen Facebook "likes". Sure we'll see his same article again in the fall. Y'all are beating a dead horse.


So, which one of you guys got the high mark on the bathroom wall so far?

Awesome, a name thread!

Did not see that coming.

(05-13-2017 11:51 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Awesome, a name thread!

Did not see that coming.

But it's LaTech and ULL arguing, ULM has stayed pretty quiet about it.

(05-13-2017 11:55 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 11:51 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Awesome, a name thread!

Did not see that coming.

But it's LaTech and ULL arguing, ULM has stayed pretty quiet about it.

Fair point. Perhaps that illuminates the inevitability a little more...

(05-13-2017 11:55 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 11:51 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Awesome, a name thread!

Did not see that coming.

But it's LaTech and ULL arguing, ULM has stayed pretty quiet about it.

La Tech fans are something else. How does ULL calling itself Louisiana affect La Tech in any way? Even Ga Southern fans didn't put up this much of a fight when Ga State called itself GSU and we share the same acronym. La Tech fans need to get over it like ULM did.

(05-13-2017 12:09 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 11:55 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 11:51 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Awesome, a name thread!

Did not see that coming.

But it's LaTech and ULL arguing, ULM has stayed pretty quiet about it.

La Tech fans are something else. How does ULL calling itself Louisiana affect La Tech in any way? Even Ga Southern fans didn't put up this much of a fight when Ga State called itself GSU and we share the same acronym. La Tech fans need to get over it like ULM did.

It's typical ULM discussion turns to ULL vs LT. that's what killed the ULM scout board because there was no admin. Most people use Rivals site because there's two moderators.

I'll never understand ULL's obsession with their name...if they don't like it, they should officially change it...just one day deciding to call yourself something else is silly.

moreover, none of that has anything to do with ULM.