(04-21-2017 05:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My god guys. It's the student government association. No one listens to them, calm down

Triggered

I think what the SGA is attempting is great. Theirs one huge problem by simply saying "black" they would be denying individuals who may have former slave heritage an opportunity because of the status of their stated race on a birth certificate. Their are many Hispanic and European Americans who are the descendants of former American salves. But the post has also enlightened me on how uneducated many individuals on the board are to true horror of the American slave trade and how the damage was designed to last far after its abolishment. White slave owners were smarter than many of you think, for light homework read the William Lynch How To Make a Slave Kit and see if his projections on the African male and family are not playing out before your eyes.

(04-21-2017 06:30 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:05 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

I think we've just taken this to another level of dumb.

Thank you!


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He's still berning.

Bernie was a bit conservative for my tastes, but I would have been happier with him by a long way than anyone else running in 2016.

(04-21-2017 06:33 PM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

Great idea. You start talking to all the professors and get them to work for free.

Interesting you want the professors to work for free but make no mention of the levels of admins that, I assume continue to get paid.

(Not that either employee need work for free.)

(04-21-2017 07:51 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:30 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:05 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

I think we've just taken this to another level of dumb.

Thank you!


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He's still berning.

Bernie was a bit conservative for my tastes, but I would have been happier with him by a long way than anyone else running in 2016.

You're the worst


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(04-21-2017 06:26 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 01:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 12:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  I think this goes to show that an understanding and actual consideration of economic factors is disappearing in those areas where people are in public policy decision making. These may just be college students right now, but as those kids become adults and enter the real world, they are not likely to be any more educated on economic matters and understand how to quantify the social agendas that are out there.

Looks like the same silliness that SGA was noted for back in 1988 to me. Only difference was in 1988 it was apartheid in South Africa and the investment of the school endowment.

At 25, and as someone not particularly interested in the social agenda of my generation, I don't know much about the 1988 issue you speak of. I suppose if everyone did more research into the history of their grievance, they would find the same exact actions that they propose and espouse as original some time later.

Good grief, to not know about the situation in South Africa does not speak well of your knowledge of more recent history. Please take a few minutes and read up on how apartheid worked.

Also please tell me you took history classes at ECU and not App State.

(04-21-2017 07:54 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 07:51 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:30 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:05 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

I think we've just taken this to another level of dumb.

Thank you!


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He's still berning.

Bernie was a bit conservative for my tastes, but I would have been happier with him by a long way than anyone else running in 2016.

You're the worst


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I don't know which rejoinder I want to use:

I am worse than Manson? Pol Pot? And not to go all Mike Godwin, but worse than Hitler?

or

Some think I am the best, but most realize I am just a decent person that takes some concern for his fellow man and woman to hart, and that puts me somewhere between the worst and the best.

(04-21-2017 07:53 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:33 PM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

Great idea. You start talking to all the professors and get them to work for free.

Interesting you want the professors to work for free but make no mention of the levels of admins that, I assume continue to get paid.

(Not that either employee need work for free.)

By all means try to get them to work for free also. I'm fine with paying for my education but if you want free tuition then you're going to have to talk a bunch of people out of a salary. I am only 23 and realize I don't have a bunch of "life experience" but I have noticed that nothing in life is free.

As an evil white Christian heterosexual male, I was somehow given a free college education. Even got paid to go. Post grad on the other hand, now that's a different story. This SGA resolution reminds me of a skit from the greatest comedy show ever.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Dave_Chappell...68/video/1

I haven't posted in over a year, but I had to break the silence to talk to everybody here about a little something called Public Relations.

Dr. Gary Ransdell (1997-2017) is arguably the best president in WKU history.

He practically doubled enrollment, beautified the campus and oversaw 2 separate ranked sports programs. 6 years before he took office our football team was on the brink of being axed. Talk to Toppers who lived through that and ask them what they think of the state of our program now.

He was the president behind our first Doctoral program, he built a campus nondenominational chapel, alumni center, international center, he renovated all the major sports venues, built parking garages, worked to eradicate "suitcase culture" and got us to the Sweet 16. He discovered 4 amazing AD's one after the other. Seriously, just visit the campus. Then imagine it with a giant road running through Centennial Mall with all the cherry blossoms that didn't exist.

Most importantly, and relevantly, he fervently supported WKU's Student Government Association.

Under his watch, he grew the SGA powers to heights previously unimagined. I was a Student Senator and he came to several sessions. He had plenty of fans. Senators from my active semesters were allowed to create institutions that exist to this day and have an active voice in the university senate. Every major housing and dining decision in recent memory has had active SGA influence. He understood that without the students he would be out of a job.

Dr. Ransdell is a man who, just like any man has friends and enemies. But SGA lives squarely in the friend department.

So the SGA, in Ransdell's last semester as president after 20 amazing years-- a month left in school-- proposes and passes a resolution so stuck in the 90's that it creates an internet sensation and turns itself into instant clickbait. I don't know if you all remember "goatgate" but WKU knows how to make the news. We have an independent student-originated and ran (at least when I was there) PR firm that goes back 15 years and it was worth every penny.

This is to say nothing of the city of Bowling Green, which entered into a downtown redevelopment plan that has reinvented the city and it's core business district. The WKU science research center in the old Big Lots links the research farm to the south campus to the main campus, creating an investment and research artery that cuts through the city, creating private investment and spawning countless small businesses.

Chances are Ransdell has bigger plans after he retires from WKU. Chances are a national platform to discuss a hot-button issue such as race relations in America is a good place to start.

My money is on SGA giving Ransdell a sweet parting gift with a big bow and ribbon on top.

From my perspective, it looks like a lot of people fell for good ol' fashioned P.R...

Good news, bad news, at least we're in the news. Y'all heard about our '17 recruiting class?

I wish all Sun Belt members, and all G5 teams, all the success next season and every season. We're all in this together.

(04-21-2017 09:43 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  I haven't posted in over a year, but I had to break the silence to talk to everybody here about a little something called Public Relations.

Dr. Gary Ransdell (1997-2017) is arguably the best president in WKU history.

He practically doubled enrollment, beautified the campus and oversaw 2 separate ranked sports programs. 6 years before he took office our football team was on the brink of being axed. Talk to Toppers who lived through that and ask them what they think of the state of our program now.

He was the president behind our first Doctoral program, he built a campus nondenominational chapel, alumni center, international center, he renovated all the major sports venues, built parking garages, worked to eradicate "suitcase culture" and got us to the Sweet 16. He discovered 4 amazing AD's one after the other. Seriously, just visit the campus. Then imagine it with a giant road running through Centennial Mall with all the cherry blossoms that didn't exist.

Most importantly, and relevantly, he fervently supported WKU's Student Government Association.

Under his watch, he grew the SGA powers to heights previously unimagined. I was a Student Senator and he came to several sessions. He had plenty of fans. Senators from my active semesters were allowed to create institutions that exist to this day and have an active voice in the university senate. Every major housing and dining decision in recent memory has had active SGA influence. He understood that without the students he would be out of a job.

Dr. Ransdell is a man who, just like any man has friends and enemies. But SGA lives squarely in the friend department.

So the SGA, in Ransdell's last semester as president after 20 amazing years-- a month left in school-- proposes and passes a resolution so stuck in the 90's that it creates an internet sensation and turns itself into instant clickbait. I don't know if you all remember "goatgate" but WKU knows how to make the news. We have an independent student-originated and ran (at least when I was there) PR firm that goes back 15 years and it was worth every penny.

This is to say nothing of the city of Bowling Green, which entered into a downtown redevelopment plan that has reinvented the city and it's core business district. The WKU science research center in the old Big Lots links the research farm to the south campus to the main campus, creating an investment and research artery that cuts through the city, creating private investment and spawning countless small businesses.

Chances are Ransdell has bigger plans after he retires from WKU. Chances are a national platform to discuss a hot-button issue such as race relations in America is a good place to start.

My money is on SGA giving Ransdell a sweet parting gift with a big bow and ribbon on top.

From my perspective, it looks like a lot of people fell for good ol' fashioned P.R...

Good news, bad news, at least we're in the news. Y'all heard about our '17 recruiting class?

I wish all Sun Belt members, and all G5 teams, all the success next season and every season. We're all in this together.

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I'm lost.
I think he likes the WKU pres.

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

Who's footin' the bill?

People act like they were never 18 on a college campus. LOL. Nothing to see here.

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(04-21-2017 10:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

Who's footin' the bill?

Society at large. How do we fund parks, roads, military? It would be the same. By free I mean free at the point of use, it would cost, but the cost would be born by society as a whole.

There are a lot of costs to society by not having college be much more affordable.

(04-21-2017 10:19 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:43 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  I haven't posted in over a year, but I had to break the silence to talk to everybody here about a little something called Public Relations.

Dr. Gary Ransdell (1997-2017) is arguably the best president in WKU history.

He practically doubled enrollment, beautified the campus and oversaw 2 separate ranked sports programs. 6 years before he took office our football team was on the brink of being axed. Talk to Toppers who lived through that and ask them what they think of the state of our program now.

He was the president behind our first Doctoral program, he built a campus nondenominational chapel, alumni center, international center, he renovated all the major sports venues, built parking garages, worked to eradicate "suitcase culture" and got us to the Sweet 16. He discovered 4 amazing AD's one after the other. Seriously, just visit the campus. Then imagine it with a giant road running through Centennial Mall with all the cherry blossoms that didn't exist.

Most importantly, and relevantly, he fervently supported WKU's Student Government Association.

Under his watch, he grew the SGA powers to heights previously unimagined. I was a Student Senator and he came to several sessions. He had plenty of fans. Senators from my active semesters were allowed to create institutions that exist to this day and have an active voice in the university senate. Every major housing and dining decision in recent memory has had active SGA influence. He understood that without the students he would be out of a job.

Dr. Ransdell is a man who, just like any man has friends and enemies. But SGA lives squarely in the friend department.

So the SGA, in Ransdell's last semester as president after 20 amazing years-- a month left in school-- proposes and passes a resolution so stuck in the 90's that it creates an internet sensation and turns itself into instant clickbait. I don't know if you all remember "goatgate" but WKU knows how to make the news. We have an independent student-originated and ran (at least when I was there) PR firm that goes back 15 years and it was worth every penny.

This is to say nothing of the city of Bowling Green, which entered into a downtown redevelopment plan that has reinvented the city and it's core business district. The WKU science research center in the old Big Lots links the research farm to the south campus to the main campus, creating an investment and research artery that cuts through the city, creating private investment and spawning countless small businesses.

Chances are Ransdell has bigger plans after he retires from WKU. Chances are a national platform to discuss a hot-button issue such as race relations in America is a good place to start.

My money is on SGA giving Ransdell a sweet parting gift with a big bow and ribbon on top.

From my perspective, it looks like a lot of people fell for good ol' fashioned P.R...

Good news, bad news, at least we're in the news. Y'all heard about our '17 recruiting class?

I wish all Sun Belt members, and all G5 teams, all the success next season and every season. We're all in this together.

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If you didn't get it then it wasn't for you

(04-21-2017 11:21 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

Who's footin' the bill?

Society at large. How do we fund parks, roads, military? It would be the same. By free I mean free at the point of use, it would cost, but the cost would be born by society as a whole.

There are a lot of costs to society by not having college be much more affordable.

Do you mean the parks that shut down last year due to the government shutdown, the roads that are riddled with potholes and cracks, and the military that isn't even allowed to have fireworks on the 4th of July? Do you really want to put the government in charge of college tuition? We are over $19 trillion dollars in debt as a country, I think the government has provided enough reasons as to why we shouldn't give them any more money than we already have to. Plus raising taxes always makes people happy.

By free you mean why should I pay for my education when I can have the government force my neighbor to do it.

(04-21-2017 11:21 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:35 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 06:03 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  If we had free tuition for all it would take care of all.

Who's footin' the bill?

Society at large. How do we fund parks, roads, military? It would be the same. By free I mean free at the point of use, it would cost, but the cost would be born by society as a whole.

There are a lot of costs to society by not having college be much more affordable.

Society pays enough as-is for government programs.

I don't think you understand the economics of free college tuition. There are over 4,100 colleges/universities in the US. The national average cost of just ONE credit hour is $594 (among all 4-year and 2-year institutions). That's approximately $2.4 million just to pay for one credit hour for one person at each school.

At WKU alone, based on the 19,640 undergrads there​, the government would shell out $11.7 mllion just to pay for one credit hour for all 19,640 undergrads based on the $594/per hour average.

Free college is not feasible by any stretch. Even Hillary Clinton said it's not possible.

Everybody's a robin hood until you've got something worth protecting.

McLeansvilleAppFan...

Everyone should be entitled to an education (we do that already through tax payer funded public schools).

Everyone should have access to higher education (we do that already through low cost community college).

Access does not mean free. Access means access. If everyone has a college degree then a college degree ceases to mean anything.

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