(04-05-2017 11:45 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:43 AM)tigergg Wrote:  This is both transferring not going pro.. Possible destinations: Georgia Tech, Arkansas, Kentucky (no way they ain't good enough), another mentioned but don't remember who..

FWIW - Ole Miss has a recently posted opening for assistant basketball coach.

Maybe we should've gone after Kennedy after all.

(04-05-2017 11:45 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Tubby can't rebuild anything. He is absolute garage. He obviously is a stubborn mule. He can't even appease a man with the two kids on the team and possible a 3rd down the line. Tubby is hurting our relationship with a Memphis family and others are watching!

Gutless Rudd needs to do the right thing. If his contract isn't signed yet as reported two weeks ago. Get Rid of his ass. This isn't going to end well for us.

Tough words. Tubby is no garage!

This is a pattern from Keelon. Extort what you can and threaten to leave. My guess is that they finally had it with him. Dedric was gone anyway, and I could care less about KJ staying or going. We could use him next year, but he isn't a difference maker. I say good riddance...

Most of this team quit anyway. They only have a few kids I'd like to keep. We need tough kids with heart.

If Dedric was smart, he would separate himself from his father and go to a school like Kansas. No good school is gonna want to take them as a package deal. Now I see why Cal never recruited Memphis players. When the Tubby experiment is over, we need to go after a coach who can recruit nationally.

(04-05-2017 11:44 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @JohnMartin929 Major indictment that Lawson brothers would rather sit out a year (after KJ already redshirted one year) than play another at Memphis.

@DanWolken

Tubby Smith had no idea what he was getting into, and the University president who fancies himself a sports guy had no clue what he needed.

Before you push people out, you better learn how to replace them.

(04-05-2017 12:00 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  @DanWolken

Tubby Smith had no idea what he was getting into, and the University president who fancies himself a sports guy had no clue what he needed.

.....and also had a bunch of yes men around him who wouldn't tell him what WAS needed.

(04-05-2017 11:48 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:45 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:43 AM)tigergg Wrote:  This is both transferring not going pro.. Possible destinations: Georgia Tech, Arkansas, Kentucky (no way they ain't good enough), another mentioned but don't remember who..

FWIW - Ole Miss has a recently posted opening for assistant basketball coach.

Maybe we should've gone after Kennedy after all.

Without a doubt. We'd be in a better position than we are now.

(04-05-2017 11:51 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:45 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Tubby can't rebuild anything. He is absolute garage. He obviously is a stubborn mule. He can't even appease a man with the two kids on the team and possible a 3rd down the line. Tubby is hurting our relationship with a Memphis family and others are watching!

Gutless Rudd needs to do the right thing. If his contract isn't signed yet as reported two weeks ago. Get Rid of his ass. This isn't going to end well for us.

Tough words. Tubby is no garage!

This is a pattern from Keelon. Extort what you can and threaten to leave. My guess is that they finally had it with him. Dedric was gone anyway, and I could care less about KJ staying or going. We could use him next year, but he isn't a difference maker. I say good riddance...

Most of this team quit anyway. They only have a few kids I'd like to keep. We need tough kids with heart.

BINGO! The only loss is KJ. And, he's not an All-American. Dedric was likely already gone.

Plus, getting rid of Daddy is a net gain.

Yet, the "fire Tubby", the "end of Tiger basketball crowd" is already in beast mode.

Pastner ruined my fanizm 3 or 4 years ago, and when he left I was excited to get back into it again!! Then they hire Tubby, which I like and have nothing against, but Memphis needed someone to build it up quick not take 4 or 5 years to build it up with 2 and 3 star players that usually take 3 or 4 years of playing together to be decent! This program is going to be bad for a long long time unless something unforseen takes place!!

(04-05-2017 11:36 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Reportedly Keelon's office is already cleared out. Sounds like Tubby was resolute on booting Daddy and naturally the sons are leaving. Whatever. Just burn it to the ground and rebuild.

Tubby is incapable of building anything. Just mailing it in while our idiot boosters pay his $3 million a year.

(04-05-2017 12:08 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Pastner ruined my fanizm 3 or 4 years ago, and when he left I was excited to get back into it again!! Then they hire Tubby, which I like and have nothing against, but Memphis needed someone to build it up quick not take 4 or 5 years to build it up with 2 and 3 star players that usually take 3 or 4 years of playing together to be decent! This program is going to be bad for a long long time unless something unforseen takes place!!

So, win BIG and win QUICK or you aren't a Tiger fan?

Got it.

(04-05-2017 11:46 AM)Chicago23 Wrote:  Sad site that these boys are good ball players who let daddy run their college careers...

Yeah that's not what's happening here. Keelon isn't looking for a job apparently.

(04-05-2017 12:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:08 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Pastner ruined my fanizm 3 or 4 years ago, and when he left I was excited to get back into it again!! Then they hire Tubby, which I like and have nothing against, but Memphis needed someone to build it up quick not take 4 or 5 years to build it up with 2 and 3 star players that usually take 3 or 4 years of playing together to be decent! This program is going to be bad for a long long time unless something unforseen takes place!!

So, win BIG and win QUICK or you aren't a Tiger fan?

Got it.

Just let us bad fans know when he finally wins.

(04-05-2017 12:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:08 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Pastner ruined my fanizm 3 or 4 years ago, and when he left I was excited to get back into it again!! Then they hire Tubby, which I like and have nothing against, but Memphis needed someone to build it up quick not take 4 or 5 years to build it up with 2 and 3 star players that usually take 3 or 4 years of playing together to be decent! This program is going to be bad for a long long time unless something unforseen takes place!!

So, win BIG and win QUICK or you aren't a Tiger fan?

Got it.

Tubby was a disastrous hire. I said it at the time. Time to wake up.

(04-05-2017 11:36 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Reportedly Keelon's office is already cleared out. Sounds like Tubby was resolute on booting Daddy and naturally the sons are leaving. Whatever. Just burn it to the ground and rebuild.

By definition, rebuilding requires recruiting good / great talent.

Nichols 2.0

Today's news allows Tubby to claim we met pre-season expectations when we finish 11th place next season.

The only option at this point is to settle with Tubby and bring in Penny for cheap. You can't have someone running the program who couldn't give a crap what happens to it.

(04-05-2017 12:06 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:51 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:45 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Tubby can't rebuild anything. He is absolute garage. He obviously is a stubborn mule. He can't even appease a man with the two kids on the team and possible a 3rd down the line. Tubby is hurting our relationship with a Memphis family and others are watching!

Gutless Rudd needs to do the right thing. If his contract isn't signed yet as reported two weeks ago. Get Rid of his ass. This isn't going to end well for us.

Tough words. Tubby is no garage!

This is a pattern from Keelon. Extort what you can and threaten to leave. My guess is that they finally had it with him. Dedric was gone anyway, and I could care less about KJ staying or going. We could use him next year, but he isn't a difference maker. I say good riddance...

Most of this team quit anyway. They only have a few kids I'd like to keep. We need tough kids with heart.

BINGO! The only loss is KJ. And, he's not an All-American. Dedric was likely already gone.

Plus, getting rid of Daddy is a net gain.

Yet, the "fire Tubby", the "end of Tiger basketball crowd" is already in beast mode.

It has been in beast mode since Tubby was hired. When you hire a dad to get his 2 sons. It means your going to have problems. And how did that happen. Pastner hired his dad to save his job. How did that work out him.Pastner isn't going to make that mistake again. I don't see another coach in his right mind offering a package deal for all three.