The Sargin Ratings (http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm) give pretty good insight on how these teams match up but I'm curious to hear opinions.

Some notable matchups of teams for FCS teams in the upcoming season. Not all teams have their FBS games scheduled yet if they will have them.




James Madison vs. East Carolina on September 2nd

Youngstown State vs. Pitt on September 2nd

Eastern Washington vs. Texas Tech on September 2nd

Central Arkansas vs. Kansas State on September 2nd

Charleston Southern vs. Mississippi State on September 2nd

Montana State vs. Washington State on September 2nd

Northern Iowa vs. Iowa State on September 2nd

Abilene Christian vs. New Mexico on September 2nd

Stephen F. Austin vs. SMU on September 2nd

Incarnate Word vs. Fresno State on September 2nd

Tribe vs. UVA on September 2nd

Idaho State vs. Utah State on September 7th

South Dakota vs. Bowling Green on September 9th

New Hampshire vs. Georgia Southern on September 9th

Jacksonville State vs. Georgia Tech on September 9th

Delaware vs. Virginia Tech on September 9th

Indiana State vs. Tennessee on September 9th

Chattanooga vs. LSU on September 9th

Weber State vs. Cal on September 9th

Samford vs. Georgia on September 16th

Mercer vs. Auburn on September 16th

Western Illinois vs. Coastal Carolina on September 23rd

Maine vs. UMass on November 11th

jealous that delaware gets a stab at vt... hate the blue chickens but hate the chokies even more...

Trying not to be too biased, but I really like the Dukes' chances at ECU.

Also, I will not be surprised at all if Jax State has my Yellow Jackets on the ropes in the 4Q. GT comes off a Monday night opener against the Vols and has a trip to Central Florida in Week 3. Short week...potential overlook...solid JSU team...perfect storm/recipe for upset.

Would Maine over UMASS really count as an upset?

... or Western Illinois over Coastal Carolina?

What?!?!?! Sam Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.



/heavy sarcasm off

FBS teams are definitely not created equal. Huge gap between a bottom-feeder G5 team vs a mid-level P5 team. Makes some of NDST's victories all that more impressive. Except for the NDST win, that first quarter against UNC was one of the most exciting moments in JMU football in quite a while.

JB needs to hurry up and sign deals for 2020-2025. Come Sept. 3, we might find no FBS opponents will want us on their schedule. This happened to NDSU once they became too successful against FBS.

(03-30-2017 11:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  JB needs to hurry up and sign deals for 2020-2025. Come Sept. 3, we might find no FBS opponents will want us on their schedule. This happened to NDSU once they became too successful against FBS.

and retire.

(03-30-2017 10:10 AM)2Buck Wrote:  FBS teams are definitely not created equal. Huge gap between a bottom-feeder G5 team vs a mid-level P5 team. Makes some of NDST's victories all that more impressive.

there definitely is a difference, but NDSU has gotten lucky (or just scheduled very wisely) to not even play mid-level P5 teams. more often than not, they're playing bad P5 teams. Kansas, Colorado State, Minnesota, and Iowa State were all bad teams. those teams were a combined 12-36. they beat an ok Kansas State team and a good Iowa team. i'd love to see them play at Ohio State or something (mainly because NDSU never gets crushed by anyone and I would love to watch that happen).

(03-30-2017 12:28 PM)Jay M. Youix Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 10:10 AM)2Buck Wrote:  FBS teams are definitely not created equal. Huge gap between a bottom-feeder G5 team vs a mid-level P5 team. Makes some of NDST's victories all that more impressive.

there definitely is a difference, but NDSU has gotten lucky (or just scheduled very wisely) to not even play mid-level P5 teams. more often than not, they're playing bad P5 teams. Kansas, Colorado State, Minnesota, and Iowa State were all bad teams. those teams were a combined 12-36. they beat an ok Kansas State team and a good Iowa team. i'd love to see them play at Ohio State or something (mainly because NDSU never gets crushed by anyone and I would love to watch that happen).

They will play Oregon in the next few years, but we will see what shape Oregon is in by then.

(03-30-2017 12:28 PM)Jay M. Youix Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 10:10 AM)2Buck Wrote:  FBS teams are definitely not created equal. Huge gap between a bottom-feeder G5 team vs a mid-level P5 team. Makes some of NDST's victories all that more impressive.

there definitely is a difference, but NDSU has gotten lucky (or just scheduled very wisely) to not even play mid-level P5 teams. more often than not, they're playing bad P5 teams. Kansas, Colorado State, Minnesota, and Iowa State were all bad teams. those teams were a combined 12-36. they beat an ok Kansas State team and a good Iowa team. i'd love to see them play at Ohio State or something (mainly because NDSU never gets crushed by anyone and I would love to watch that happen).

That Iowa team they played last year crushed Iowa State 42-3. Iowa was ranked #13 at the time, finished 8-5.

This year (and going forward?) I don't see any FBS teams on the NDSU schedule and their fans aren't happy about it. They have Robert Morris, EWU and MS Valley shown as their OOC opponents.

I'd love JMU to be the team that "crushes" NDSU this year, at BFS

(03-30-2017 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  What?!?!?! SOFT Houston Stats isn't playing an FBS team this year?!?! Something must have gone wrong with the release because that cannot be possible that one of the best teams in the nation isn't playing a quality opponent.



/heavy sarcasm off

ftfy

(03-30-2017 09:24 AM)JMU_71 Wrote:  ... or Western Illinois over Coastal Carolina?

I don't believe Myrtle Beach Community College has 85 on a full ride yet.

(03-30-2017 11:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  JB needs to hurry up and sign deals for 2020-2025. Come Sept. 3, we might find no FBS opponents will want us on their schedule. This happened to NDSU once they became too successful against FBS.

I hear what you are saying, but SEC is always looking for FCS teams and I'm confident Alabama would not shy away from us or NDSU.

(03-30-2017 02:39 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 11:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  JB needs to hurry up and sign deals for 2020-2025. Come Sept. 3, we might find no FBS opponents will want us on their schedule. This happened to NDSU once they became too successful against FBS.

I hear what you are saying, but SEC is always looking for FCS teams and I'm confident Alabama would not shy away from us or NDSU.

Until the SEC follows suit of other power conferences and ban teams from playing FCS teams.

(03-30-2017 01:30 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 12:28 PM)Jay M. Youix Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 10:10 AM)2Buck Wrote:  FBS teams are definitely not created equal. Huge gap between a bottom-feeder G5 team vs a mid-level P5 team. Makes some of NDST's victories all that more impressive.

there definitely is a difference, but NDSU has gotten lucky (or just scheduled very wisely) to not even play mid-level P5 teams. more often than not, they're playing bad P5 teams. Kansas, Colorado State, Minnesota, and Iowa State were all bad teams. those teams were a combined 12-36. they beat an ok Kansas State team and a good Iowa team. i'd love to see them play at Ohio State or something (mainly because NDSU never gets crushed by anyone and I would love to watch that happen).

That Iowa team they played last year crushed Iowa State 42-3. Iowa was ranked #13 at the time, finished 8-5.

This year (and going forward?) I don't see any FBS teams on the NDSU schedule and their fans aren't happy about it. They have Robert Morris, EWU and MS Valley shown as their OOC opponents.

I'd love JMU to be the team that "crushes" NDSU this year, at BFS

I think you might have missed what I was saying here. Or maybe I'm not understanding you. All the P5 teams I've listed are the teams NDSU has played since 2010. The Iowa State team I was referencing went (I believe) 2-10 that year.

but yes, I would LOVE to beat them in BFS, or more importantly beat the living crap out of them anywhere. I felt like we could have won by more than 10 last year, and 17 would have even more satisfying.

(03-30-2017 02:54 PM)dan10 Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 02:39 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 11:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  JB needs to hurry up and sign deals for 2020-2025. Come Sept. 3, we might find no FBS opponents will want us on their schedule. This happened to NDSU once they became too successful against FBS.

I hear what you are saying, but SEC is always looking for FCS teams and I'm confident Alabama would not shy away from us or NDSU.

Until the SEC follows suit of other power conferences and ban teams from playing FCS teams.

Or until a couple more upsets (e.g. Citadel over USC) happen, which would also give them reason to ban FCS games and protect their power ratings.

I'd be shocked if we ever get UVA or VT on our schedule as an FCS team again. P5 schools only schedule FCS games as an easy tuneup. They aren't looking for real competition.

If JMU beats ECU, it would be a stretch to call it an upset. ECU lost 9 of their last 10 in 2016, most of those losses were blowouts. JMU has a very good team returning so I would suggest that a loss by JMU would be an upset.

It can't hurt that Dudzik was on Duke's staff when current ECU head coach Scottie Montgomery was the offensive coordinator there. Plus Kirkpatrick knows most of the players on the ECU roster firsthand. Game planning should be a stone cold lock.