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Boy sprayed, dog killed by cyanide planted by USDA
http://fox6now.com/2017/03/20/boy-spraye...riculture/

Quote:The family of a teenage boy sprayed by a cyanide explosive that killed their dog is outraged they weren’t told the device was planted near their home, the East Idaho News reports.

Canyon Mansfield, 14, went on a walk Thursday afternoon with his family’s 3-year-old yellow Labrador, Casey, on a hill behind their Pocatello home on Buck Skin Road.

“I see this little pipe that looked like a sprinkler sticking out of the ground,” Canyon told EastIdahoNews.com. “I go over and touch it. Then it makes a pop sound and it spews orange gas everywhere.”

The orange gas was cyanide, and it sprayed into Canyon’s left eye and on his clothing.

The teen grabbed some snow and washed his eye out but then realized Casey was having problems.

Quote:It took hours after emergency crews arrived and help from multiple agencies to learn Casey had died from exposure to an M-44.

M-44s are spring-activated devices that release cyanide when they are activated through upward pressure or pulling. The US Department of Agriculture uses the devices to control coyotes and other predators.

“We didn’t know anything about it. No neighborhood notifications and our local authorities didn’t know anything about them,” Mark said. “The sheriff deputies who went up there didn’t even know what a cyanide bomb was.”

Quote:On Friday, US Department of Agriculture Wildlife Services told EastIdahoNews.com this is the first unintentional discharge of an M-44 in Idaho since 2014.

“Wildlife Services understands the close bonds between people and their pets and sincerely regrets such losses,” R. Andre Bell, a spokesman for the US Department of Agriculture, said in a statement. “Wildlife Services has removed M-44s in that immediate area … and is completing a thorough review of the circumstances of this incident … to determine whether improvements can be made to reduce the likelihood of similar occurrences happening in the future.”

Quote:The Mansfields said, as of Friday, nobody from the US Department of Agriculture has contacted them to apologize for what happened. They wonder if other explosives may be hidden in the hills surrounding their home.

“If you plant bombs by our house, just tell us,” Canyon said. “By the grace of God I’m still alive.”

His parents say they hope no other family has to endure what they’ve been through.

“300 yards from this swingset next to my house there were 2 cyanide bombs. It kills anything. It almost killed my child and it did kill my dog,” Mark said. “I don’t want it to kill my neighbors.”
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If a civilian had done this they would be in prison for attempted murder.
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(03-22-2017 08:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If a civilian had done this they would be in prison for attempted murder.

If a civilian had simply set the trap they would be facing federal charges. It's been illegal to use poison as a method to control coyotes on federal lands since the early 1970's
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Sounds like an unfortunate accident
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(03-22-2017 09:14 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sounds like an unfortunate accident

no, it is stupid incompetence.
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(03-22-2017 09:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  it is stupid incompetence.

You know nothing about it, of course. But spout away.
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(03-22-2017 09:32 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  it is stupid incompetence.

You know nothing about it, of course. But spout away.

I get tha tyour team is having a really bad day, but why you are ok with a kid and dog getting hit with a cyanide bomb is beyond me.

No, its not beyond me. I know exactly why you are ok with it. Because it was big government. Big government cant do any wrong in your eyes. If they taint drinking water with lead, its an unfortunate accident. If they turn a river yellow with metal contamination due to their incompetence, its an unfortunate accident. If they kill a dog and try to kill a boy with a booby trap cyanide bomb, its an unfortunate accident.

If a baker wont bake a 2-***** cake, they should be jailed.

We got it. Which is why you have Trump as YOUR president.
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If you don't want your children to be sprayed in the face with cyanide by the government, move to Somalia!
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(03-22-2017 09:14 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sounds like an unfortunate accident

No, if it's a poison you have to ingest it would be an accident that could easily kill a pet... This is them putting a chemical weapon in a residential neighborhood and not telling the people who live there.

Someone needs to be held accountable.
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(03-22-2017 09:32 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  it is stupid incompetence.

You know nothing about it, of course. But spout away.

“Wildlife Services has removed M-44s in that immediate area … and is completing a thorough review of the circumstances of this incident … to determine whether improvements can be made to reduce the likelihood of similar occurrences happening in the future.”
--- USDA

We know enough...
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(03-22-2017 09:32 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  it is stupid incompetence.

You know nothing about it, of course. But spout away.

We know that a federal government employee set a bomb armed with one of the deadliest poisons known to man 300 yards from a residence. That's all we need to know to say it was gross incompetence.
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(03-22-2017 10:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:32 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  it is stupid incompetence.

You know nothing about it, of course. But spout away.

We know that a federal government employee set a bomb armed with one of the deadliest poisons known to man 300 yards from a residence. That's all we need to know to say it was gross incompetence.
Amazing the dumb shite rules the gubmwnt has to protect us from ourselves then they put in cyanide coyete bombs. Why not mini nuclear warheads or mustard gas.

Worried about global warming, cyanide bombs in the ground. Insanity.
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What's especially incompetent about it is the fact that the feds know that these devices often claim unintended victims.

From 2012:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigation...74606.html

Quote:The agency's deputy administrator, William Clay, defended the devices. "Generally, there is not a problem with non-targets," Clay said. "They (M-44s) are pretty much canid specific. But, of course, canids means dogs and things like that. Every now and then a skunk or a raccoon will take it."

Agency records show that more than 3,400 animals have been mistakenly killed by M-44s since 2006, including black bears, bobcats, raccoons, opossums, ravens, ringtails, red fox, gray fox, kit fox, swift fox, turkey vultures and dogs.

At least 18 employees and several members of the public have been exposed to cyanide, too, over the past 25 years. None died, but many were treated for nausea, blurred vision and other symptoms.
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(03-22-2017 09:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:14 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sounds like an unfortunate accident

no, it is stupid incompetence.

that dippo would argue for mass genocide if generated from the left....
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(03-22-2017 11:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  What's especially incompetent about it is the fact that the feds know that these devices often claim unintended victims.

From 2012:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigation...74606.html

Quote:The agency's deputy administrator, William Clay, defended the devices. "Generally, there is not a problem with non-targets," Clay said. "They (M-44s) are pretty much canid specific. But, of course, canids means dogs and things like that. Every now and then a skunk or a raccoon will take it."

Agency records show that more than 3,400 animals have been mistakenly killed by M-44s since 2006, including black bears, bobcats, raccoons, opossums, ravens, ringtails, red fox, gray fox, kit fox, swift fox, turkey vultures and dogs.

At least 18 employees and several members of the public have been exposed to cyanide, too, over the past 25 years. None died, but many were treated for nausea, blurred vision and other symptoms.

straight out of the gate, he screws the pooch....
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(03-22-2017 09:14 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sounds like an unfortunate accident
Sounds like gov't incompetence.

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(03-22-2017 09:14 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sounds like an unfortunate accident

Big Government good
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(03-22-2017 09:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Big government cant do any wrong in your eyes.

The "free" market can do no wrong in your eyes.


(03-22-2017 10:26 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Someone needs to be held accountable.

I'm sure they'll review it and update the training for people who install the coyote management tools.

There ya go.


(03-22-2017 10:28 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  “Wildlife Services has removed M-44s in that immediate area … and is completing a thorough review of the circumstances of this incident … to determine whether improvements can be made to reduce the likelihood of similar occurrences happening in the future.”

See. The accident has prompted corrective action. Done.


(03-22-2017 10:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  That's all we need to know to say it was gross incompetence.

Next year you'll be posting a thread about how the federal government is at fault for allowing an Idaho town to be overrun by coyotes.

The only incompetence in this thread lies solely with the mental disease of blaming all the world's problems on the federal government.
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(03-23-2017 03:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 09:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Big government cant do any wrong in your eyes.

The "free" market can do no wrong in your eyes.

The difference is that the free market can be held accountable for their errors. The almighty federal government claims sovereign immunity so they can't.

And as has been proven in this thread this incident isn't an isolated occurrence yet the federal government continues to set these literal death traps where innocent citizens can be effected by them.

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(03-22-2017 10:26 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Someone needs to be held accountable.

I'm sure they'll review it and update the training for people who install the coyote management tools.

There ya go.


(03-22-2017 10:28 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  “Wildlife Services has removed M-44s in that immediate area … and is completing a thorough review of the circumstances of this incident … to determine whether improvements can be made to reduce the likelihood of similar occurrences happening in the future.”

See. The accident has prompted corrective action. Done.
So why has it taken over 25 years and well over 20 people that we know of being effected by these devices for them to take action? I'd really love to know the true number of people that have been effected by these things because the article that lists 18 people and "several" citizens is close to five years old. If they were as negligent in placing these devices as they were in this case I would imagine that number is much. much higher than 20.

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(03-22-2017 10:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  That's all we need to know to say it was gross incompetence.

Next year you'll be posting a thread about how the federal government is at fault for allowing an Idaho town to be overrun by coyotes.
I highly doubt it because the people of Idaho aren't as helpless as you city trash from the People's Republic of Minnesota. They know how to take care of things themselves.

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/envir...yote-derby

Quote:The only incompetence in this thread lies solely with the mental disease of blaming all the world's problems on the federal government.
The only mental disease in this thread is the absolute dependence on the feds by a statist like you. The federal government could cease to exist tomorrow and I would thrive. You'd likely die curled up in the fetal position.
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They're worried about coyotes? That's what guns are for. Oh wait, Bison doesn't like guns let's poison dogs and kids instead.
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