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RE: Russian Smoking Gun?
Get Clinton to produce the 33k deleted emails and explain exactly why she destroyed computers and blackberries connected to her mom secured server that housed classified documents.
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(03-21-2017 02:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

I asked you a few question in the post above. Let me ask you one other but part of one of those I already asked.

If a serious crime like hacking the DNC takes place...

who would you want investigating that crime. A company that was used to protect your server from being hack in the first place? Or the FBI?

We know which one the DNC picked


And apparently this same company is the SOLE source for this Rooskie-ruse.

Everyone else that chimes in "believes", has "strong confidence", or some other such non-committal inclination.

Again, if this is such a high crime, why are the servers in question not turned over to the FBI for examination?

Does the DNC, and their corrupt leadership not trust our very own FBI?
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(03-21-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

Can you type that again in English?

I typed it in English. You did know that right? 03-wink

What I failed to do was proofread my post for grammatical errors before hitting post. My sincerest apologies.
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(03-21-2017 03:05 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Get Clinton to produce the 33k deleted emails and explain exactly why she destroyed computers and blackberries connected to her mom secured server that housed classified documents.

Hey Trump...you won...remember? 03-lol
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RE: Russian Smoking Gun?
(03-21-2017 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

I asked you a few question in the post above. Let me ask you one other but part of one of those I already asked.

If a serious crime like hacking the DNC takes place...

who would you want investigating that crime. A company that was used to protect your server from being hack in the first place? Or the FBI?

We know which one the DNC picked

Since when do you get to pick who investigates a crime against you?


Point is the DNC refused to let the FBI look at the hacked servers....

So I guess the answer to your question is the DNC did get to pick. So I ask you again, since you are not attempting to answer my questions...

If this was a crime that affected the election of a US President. Why didn't the FBI do their job and take those servers? As you said...we shouldn't get to pick who investigates a crime that affects our country.

Why did the DNC refuse to let the FBI look at them?

I will wait for your answer

edit: here are the questions I asked in another post

Why did they refuse the request of the FBI to trace the hack if it was "a attack on our election"

Not only that if this was a attack on the integrity of the election of a president....

why didn't the FBI impound those servers and do their job?

So when did it actually become this threat to our county? Let me guess..after Donald Trump won and Hillary lost?
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Why hasn't the FBI forced them to give them up? Warrants.
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(03-21-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:05 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Get Clinton to produce the 33k deleted emails and explain exactly why she destroyed computers and blackberries connected to her mom secured server that housed classified documents.

Hey Trump...you won...remember? 03-lol

What I figured... Lefties break the law and get away with it and it's fine. But one email showing how vile and full of hate and it cost them an election.
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(03-21-2017 03:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:05 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Get Clinton to produce the 33k deleted emails and explain exactly why she destroyed computers and blackberries connected to her mom secured server that housed classified documents.

Hey Trump...you won...remember? 03-lol

What I figured... Lefties break the law and get away with it and it's fine. But one email showing how vile and full of hate and it cost them an election.

What in the hell are you even talking about? 01-wingedeagle
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(03-21-2017 03:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:05 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Get Clinton to produce the 33k deleted emails and explain exactly why she destroyed computers and blackberries connected to her mom secured server that housed classified documents.

Hey Trump...you won...remember? 03-lol

What I figured... Lefties break the law and get away with it and it's fine. But one email showing how vile and full of hate and it cost them an election.

What in the hell are you even talking about? 01-wingedeagle
Well HRC got away with a crime. If any of us had done it, we'd went to jail. You're fine with it.

You keep claiming the hate filled emails stole the election. So it's obvious that the election was stole.

I'd try to spell it out for you better, but I don't have time to teach a grown ass man to connect the dots.

Run tell that.
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(03-21-2017 03:17 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 03:05 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Get Clinton to produce the 33k deleted emails and explain exactly why she destroyed computers and blackberries connected to her mom secured server that housed classified documents.

Hey Trump...you won...remember? 03-lol

What I figured... Lefties break the law and get away with it and it's fine. But one email showing how vile and full of hate and it cost them an election.

What in the hell are you even talking about? 01-wingedeagle
Well HRC got away with a crime. If any of us had done it, we'd went to jail. You're fine with it.

You keep claiming the hate filled emails stole the election. So it's obvious that the election was stole.

I'd try to spell it out for you better, but I don't have time to teach a grown ass man to connect the dots.

Run tell that.

Dude...sorry...but I can longer converse with you. Sorry.

I never once claimed emails stole the election.
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(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently only a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

Are you referring to Eric Holder/BHO Fast & Furious Gun Running? Perhaps HRC and not obliging herself to the Federal Subpoena?

Am I close RWT?
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(03-21-2017 02:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:23 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  NOOOOO! INFORMED VOTERS! WE CAN'T HAVE IT!

The only reason you were "informed" is because Russia stole information. How that does not bother every American I'll never know.

So what information was stole?

Only reason you won't converse is because you can't compete ol Red one.
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(03-21-2017 02:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:23 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  NOOOOO! INFORMED VOTERS! WE CAN'T HAVE IT!

The only reason you were "informed" is because Russia stole information. How that does not bother every American I'll never know.

All that info China stole thru years of hacking on Obama's watch was no big deal either. Of course, the Chinese did it to American companies and not the democrat party, so now it's a big deal. UFB...
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(03-21-2017 03:28 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:23 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  NOOOOO! INFORMED VOTERS! WE CAN'T HAVE IT!

The only reason you were "informed" is because Russia stole information. How that does not bother every American I'll never know.

All that info China stole thru years of hacking on Obama's watch was no big deal either. Of course, the Chinese did it to American companies and not the democrat party, so now it's a big deal. UFB...

I wonder if RWT was bothered that we learned CNN was passing townhall questions to Hillary?
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(03-21-2017 03:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps not...but really really interesting nonetheless!

Quote:Last February (2016), a top Russian cyber official told a security conference in Moscow that Russia was working on new strategies for the “information arena” that would be equivalent to testing a nuclear bomb and would “allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Andrey Krutskikh, a senior Kremlin adviser, made the startling comments at the Russian national information security forum, or “Infoforum 2016,” held Feb. 4 and 5. His remarks were transcribed by a Russian who attended the gathering and translated for me by an independent European cyber expert.

Krutskikh’s comments are important because they may help explain the radical strategic doctrine that underlies Russia’s hacking and attempted manipulation of the 2016 presidential campaign in America, as well as Russian political subversion in Europe. His title is “special representative of the president for international cooperation in the field of information security.”

According to notes of Krutskikh’s speech, he told his Russian audience: “You think we are living in 2016. No, we are living in 1948. And do you know why? Because in 1949, the Soviet Union had its first atomic bomb test. And if until that moment, the Soviet Union was trying to reach agreement with [President Harry] Truman to ban nuclear weapons, and the Americans were not taking us seriously, in 1949 everything changed and they started talking to us on an equal footing.”

Krutskikh continued, “I’m warning you: We are at the verge of having ‘something’ in the information arena, which will allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Putin’s cyber adviser stressed to the Moscow audience the importance for Russia of having a strong hand in this new domain. If Russia is weak, he explained, “it must behave hypocritically and search for compromises. But once it becomes strong, it will dictate to the Western partners [the United States and its allies] from the position of power.”
Russia’s radical new strategy for information warfare


Yes, indeed. To the bolded, the Rooskies are sure getting clever in their "somethings".

It apparently looked something like this:

"Bruh, you need to change your password, bruh. Click here"

And what about the hacks of the RNC?

What hacks?

But, hey let's just start with the basics.

What "hacks" were there of the DNC? And what proof is there of it being the Russian Government? Not some drunk russian college kid sitting in a dacha somewhere?
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(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently only a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

Obama dismissed all the Chinese hacking of American companies over the years... Sad.

RWT, democrat party is not the gov't. They are pretty much equal to an American based company. So basically, from 2009 thru Nov 2016, the U.S. Gov't did NOTHING to bring any of these hacking issues to the forefront and to deal with the problems. Nothing. Obama and his group knew that the DNC was compromised for awhile. He did nothing with that info until...Trump finally appeared to have an actual chance to win.

In conclusion, Obama DNGAF when various corporations were getting hacked by foreign powers...until it hit the DNC. And even knowing that, he assumed Hilary had it in the bag so he did... wait for it....

NOTHING
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(03-21-2017 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:56 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

They did?

How so? What proof is there of anything of significance?

Ask Comey.

Nah, that really isn't how this is supposed to work. Sorry.

You made the claim, can you back it up? With anything?
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(03-21-2017 03:28 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 02:23 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  NOOOOO! INFORMED VOTERS! WE CAN'T HAVE IT!

The only reason you were "informed" is because Russia stole information. How that does not bother every American I'll never know.

All that info China stole thru years of hacking on Obama's watch was no big deal either. Of course, the Chinese did it to American companies and not the democrat party, so now it's a big deal. UFB...

When did anyone here ever suggest that any China hacks were no big deal? Sorry if we don't jump all over them now, but it's not really current news...nor do I even remember it being much of a discussion on here. Sorry.
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(03-21-2017 02:08 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is just getting pathetic at this point.

It is.

I'm officially beyond pointing and laughing. I am beginning to pity them. This can't be good for their emotional health.
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