(03-21-2017 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

Has that been definitively proven yet?

I believe Comey testified that they had yesterday in his testimony. And all the other intelligence agencies are also saying that they believe it was Russia. I'm not sure if you can ever say definitively when it comes to hacking.

What is not known is whether Trump or his campaign had anything to do with it.

What did they hack exactly?

(03-21-2017 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

Has that been definitively proven yet?

I believe Comey testified that they had yesterday in his testimony. And all the other intelligence agencies are also saying that they believe it was Russia. I'm not sure if you can ever say definitively when it comes to hacking.

What is not known is whether Trump or his campaign had anything to do with it.

Election =/= Campaign

(03-21-2017 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

Has that been definitively proven yet?

I believe Comey testified that they had yesterday in his testimony. And all the other intelligence agencies are also saying that they believe it was Russia. I'm not sure if you can ever say definitively when it comes to hacking.

What is not known is whether Trump or his campaign had anything to do with it.

I haven't been watching the news. Didn't know if anything ever came of it or not.

If I follow RWT, the Russians gave Trump an unfair advantage by exposing that Hillary had been given an unfair advantage by the DNC.

(03-21-2017 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps not...but really really interesting nonetheless!

Quote:Last February (2016), a top Russian cyber official told a security conference in Moscow that Russia was working on new strategies for the “information arena” that would be equivalent to testing a nuclear bomb and would “allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Andrey Krutskikh, a senior Kremlin adviser, made the startling comments at the Russian national information security forum, or “Infoforum 2016,” held Feb. 4 and 5. His remarks were transcribed by a Russian who attended the gathering and translated for me by an independent European cyber expert.

Krutskikh’s comments are important because they may help explain the radical strategic doctrine that underlies Russia’s hacking and attempted manipulation of the 2016 presidential campaign in America, as well as Russian political subversion in Europe. His title is “special representative of the president for international cooperation in the field of information security.”

According to notes of Krutskikh’s speech, he told his Russian audience: “You think we are living in 2016. No, we are living in 1948. And do you know why? Because in 1949, the Soviet Union had its first atomic bomb test. And if until that moment, the Soviet Union was trying to reach agreement with [President Harry] Truman to ban nuclear weapons, and the Americans were not taking us seriously, in 1949 everything changed and they started talking to us on an equal footing.”

Krutskikh continued, “I’m warning you: We are at the verge of having ‘something’ in the information arena, which will allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Putin’s cyber adviser stressed to the Moscow audience the importance for Russia of having a strong hand in this new domain. If Russia is weak, he explained, “it must behave hypocritically and search for compromises. But once it becomes strong, it will dictate to the Western partners [the United States and its allies] from the position of power.”

Russia’s radical new strategy for information warfare

I heard about this. Isn't it interesting that just a few short months later, we find out that they hacked our election?

(03-21-2017 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

Has that been definitively proven yet?

I believe Comey testified that they had yesterday in his testimony. And all the other intelligence agencies are also saying that they believe it was Russia. I'm not sure if you can ever say definitively when it comes to hacking.

What is not known is whether Trump or his campaign had anything to do with it.

Unless the FBI looked at the servers and tracked the hack....

how can he say it was the Russians? The DNC refused to let the FBI look at their server. I think the question should be..why? It almost make you think they feared the FBI finding something that pointed to laws being broke. Why else would you fear the top law dog in the USA taking a look.

But then the democrats want to use something he says as a gold star that it was Russia.

Answer the below:

Why did they refuse the request of the FBI to trace the hack if it was "a attack on our election"

Not only that if this was a attack on the integrity of the election of a president....

why didn't the FBI impound those servers and do their job?

So when did it actually become this threat to our county? Let me guess..after Donald Trump won and Hillary lost?

Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

I stopped reading the article where it said Washington Post Opinion

(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently only a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

(03-21-2017 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps not...but really really interesting nonetheless!

Quote:Last February (2016), a top Russian cyber official told a security conference in Moscow that Russia was working on new strategies for the “information arena” that would be equivalent to testing a nuclear bomb and would “allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Andrey Krutskikh, a senior Kremlin adviser, made the startling comments at the Russian national information security forum, or “Infoforum 2016,” held Feb. 4 and 5. His remarks were transcribed by a Russian who attended the gathering and translated for me by an independent European cyber expert.

Krutskikh’s comments are important because they may help explain the radical strategic doctrine that underlies Russia’s hacking and attempted manipulation of the 2016 presidential campaign in America, as well as Russian political subversion in Europe. His title is “special representative of the president for international cooperation in the field of information security.”

According to notes of Krutskikh’s speech, he told his Russian audience: “You think we are living in 2016. No, we are living in 1948. And do you know why? Because in 1949, the Soviet Union had its first atomic bomb test. And if until that moment, the Soviet Union was trying to reach agreement with [President Harry] Truman to ban nuclear weapons, and the Americans were not taking us seriously, in 1949 everything changed and they started talking to us on an equal footing.”

Krutskikh continued, “I’m warning you: We are at the verge of having ‘something’ in the information arena, which will allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Putin’s cyber adviser stressed to the Moscow audience the importance for Russia of having a strong hand in this new domain. If Russia is weak, he explained, “it must behave hypocritically and search for compromises. But once it becomes strong, it will dictate to the Western partners [the United States and its allies] from the position of power.”

Russia’s radical new strategy for information warfare

Yes, indeed. To the bolded, the Rooskies are sure getting clever in their "somethings".

It apparently looked something like this:

"Bruh, you need to change your password, bruh. Click here"

(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

I asked you a few question in the post above. Let me ask you one other but part of one of those I already asked.

If a serious crime like hacking the DNC takes place...

who would you want investigating that crime. A company that was used to protect your server from being hack in the first place? Or the FBI?

We know which one the DNC picked

(03-21-2017 02:51 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I stopped reading the article where it said Washington Post Opinion

You beat me to it. Tsk.

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

They did?

How so? What proof is there of anything of significance?

(03-21-2017 02:56 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:51 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I stopped reading the article where it said Washington Post Opinion

You beat me to it. Tsk.

I've learned from the best Ollie.

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

Convince the Demoncrats to show the FBI the servers. I'm sure that will seal the Reps fate in your favor, right?

(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

It certainly benefits us when we do it to them.

(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

Can you type that again in English?

(03-21-2017 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps not...but really really interesting nonetheless!

Quote:Last February (2016), a top Russian cyber official told a security conference in Moscow that Russia was working on new strategies for the “information arena” that would be equivalent to testing a nuclear bomb and would “allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Andrey Krutskikh, a senior Kremlin adviser, made the startling comments at the Russian national information security forum, or “Infoforum 2016,” held Feb. 4 and 5. His remarks were transcribed by a Russian who attended the gathering and translated for me by an independent European cyber expert.

Krutskikh’s comments are important because they may help explain the radical strategic doctrine that underlies Russia’s hacking and attempted manipulation of the 2016 presidential campaign in America, as well as Russian political subversion in Europe. His title is “special representative of the president for international cooperation in the field of information security.”

According to notes of Krutskikh’s speech, he told his Russian audience: “You think we are living in 2016. No, we are living in 1948. And do you know why? Because in 1949, the Soviet Union had its first atomic bomb test. And if until that moment, the Soviet Union was trying to reach agreement with [President Harry] Truman to ban nuclear weapons, and the Americans were not taking us seriously, in 1949 everything changed and they started talking to us on an equal footing.”

Krutskikh continued, “I’m warning you: We are at the verge of having ‘something’ in the information arena, which will allow us to talk to the Americans as equals.”

Putin’s cyber adviser stressed to the Moscow audience the importance for Russia of having a strong hand in this new domain. If Russia is weak, he explained, “it must behave hypocritically and search for compromises. But once it becomes strong, it will dictate to the Western partners [the United States and its allies] from the position of power.”

Russia’s radical new strategy for information warfare

Yes, indeed. To the bolded, the Rooskies are sure getting clever in their "somethings".

It apparently looked something like this:

"Bruh, you need to change your password, bruh. Click here"

And what about the hacks of the RNC?

(03-21-2017 02:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Only a leftist would consider the release of the truth as someone "hacking our election".

And apparently on a righty would dismiss a crime if it benefits them. Sad.

I asked you a few question in the post above. Let me ask you one other but part of one of those I already asked.

If a serious crime like hacking the DNC takes place...

who would you want investigating that crime. A company that was used to protect your server from being hack in the first place? Or the FBI?

We know which one the DNC picked

Since when do you get to pick who investigates a crime against you?

(03-21-2017 02:56 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody is laughing. Russia interfered in our election. Sad that only one side seems to care about that.

They did?

How so? What proof is there of anything of significance?

Ask Comey.