Bigger than Watergate?

Quote:This is why the globalists – the Clintons, the Obamas, the John McCains, and the Lindsey Grahams, along with the radical left wing of the Democrat party - desperately do not want President Trump to make any sort of deal with Putin. This is why they are hammering on any shred of prior relationship with Russia on the part of anyone associated with President Trump.

That’s why they are desperately trying to create this fiction that Russian influence was the only thing that tipped the election away from Clinton.
If that alliance is established, it would be the most severe blow to the plans of their anti-nationalist global jihad.

Bill Still is the best, his reports during the campaign were crucial.

Senator Sasse from Nebraska has a reasonable request. His statement...

"The president today made some very serious allegations, and the informed citizens that a republic requires deserve more information," Sasse said. "If without [an authorization], the President should explain what sort of wiretap it was and how he knows this. It is possible that he was illegally tapped."

"If it was with a legal FISA court order, then an application for surveillance exists that the court found credible. The president should ask that this full application regarding surveillance of foreign operatives or operations be made available, ideally to the full public, and at a bare minimum to the U.S. Senate," Sasse said.

This thread is full of morons. This is what happens when you give a crack head a Twitter account.

(03-05-2017 01:06 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  If we can step back from partisanship for a moment.....

I have no idea what is and what is not the truth of this current situation. But let's say for a moment it did not happen.

That said.

IT WILL HAPPEN if we continue to allow secret courts with secret warrants and secret searches. It WILL HAPPEN to some Presidential campaign of some party. Power is abused. Secret power is really, really, abused.

We have to do something to make sure that we have no Star Chambers making secret rulings that nobody is allowed to talk about.

That is exactly what should be so concerning to everyone about this.

(03-04-2017 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So someone had probable cause! Congrats Repubs, you voted for a traitor.

Imagine if a Republican was president and Clinton got tapped with the excuse that they were looking for Russian connections with the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary Clinton is going to die of acute alcohol poisoning, I'm quite sure of it.

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(03-05-2017 08:23 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  This thread is full of morons. This is what happens when you give a crack head a Twitter account.

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Levin is laying out the case that the past administration spyed on American citizens using reports from the MSM right now.

Interesting to note...the two orders to request FISA surveillance — one in May that was refused and a narrower one in October that was approved — were both ordered when everyone expected HRC to win the presidency. If these requests to spy on American citizens were eventually uncovered, they would've have banked on President HRC not investigating.

Horrible miscalculation on their part because…she's not president.

Let the investigations begin.

(03-04-2017 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

Quite frankly, if this statement is literally true, then Obama and the white house were derelict in their duties.

Thought the same thing.

We do in fact know the above statement is an outright lie though. They did in fact order surveillance on American citizens. And Trump better too.

As for doing it to Trump, they better have had a damn good reason. The truth of the order needs to come out. And one or the other administration should suffer the consequences.

(03-05-2017 12:32 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  It was just reported on Fox that someone from the Obama administration has admitted that the wiretapping occurred.

Cathy Arue reported it.

(03-05-2017 09:53 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

Quite frankly, if this statement is literally true, then Obama and the white house were derelict in their duties.

Thought the same thing.

We do in fact know the above statement is an outright lie though. They did in fact order surveillance on American citizens. And Trump better too.

As for doing it to Trump, they better have had a damn good reason. The truth of the order needs to come out. And one or the other administration should suffer the consequences.

Depends on your definition of "White House official."

Obama clearly had plenty of political flunkies scattered throughout the bureaucracy that had no morals or ethics or respect for the constitution.

The Obama administration was such a scam on the American public. Cost taxpayers Billions of dollars.

It happened but it certainly wasn't ordered by Obama like Trumpmtweeted. We already know he's a proven liar. These tweets will be his downfall.

(03-05-2017 10:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It happened but it certainly wasn't ordered by Obama like Trumpmtweeted. We already know he's a proven liar. These tweets will be his downfall.

Obama's downfall?

(03-05-2017 10:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It happened but it certainly wasn't ordered by Obama like Trumpmtweeted. We already know he's a proven liar. These tweets will be his downfall.

So you think the American public will accept an administration spying on the opposition party, even if the president has no direct knowledge of it (again).

(03-05-2017 10:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It happened but it certainly wasn't ordered by Obama like Trumpmtweeted. We already know he's a proven liar. These tweets will be his downfall.

Obama's?

http://nypost.com/2017/03/05/leaks-and-u...roy-trump/

"...All that is certain is that we are witnessing a homegrown attack on a sitting president, most likely by elements of our own government and most likely for purely partisan purposes.
If true, that would be at least as un-American as anything the Trump people might have done in communicating with Russians.
In that context, we cannot ignore an ominous warning the top Democrat in the Senate issued before the inauguration. At that point, Trump already had made accusations that intelligence officials were leaking secret information in a bid to deny him the presidency.
“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Chuck Schumer said on television. “So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.”"