(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:38 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For all of those who are wondering if Trump was really wire tapped or not, reports are starting to trickle in from sources that it did happen. Of course, when Obama put out his half-ass statement rife with Clintonian speak, we should have known that would be the case.

So if these sources are so credible why hasn't someone from the white house made an official statement about it and present the evidence?

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We've been waiting for 3 months for your side to present evidence about Russia.

And no evidence is needed when Obama is basically admitting this happened.

We probably need to see Obama pulled to congress to testify under oath about the loosening of NSA rules in the final days in office.

I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:38 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For all of those who are wondering if Trump was really wire tapped or not, reports are starting to trickle in from sources that it did happen. Of course, when Obama put out his half-ass statement rife with Clintonian speak, we should have known that would be the case.

So if these sources are so credible why hasn't someone from the white house made an official statement about it and present the evidence?

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We've been waiting for 3 months for your side to present evidence about Russia.

And no evidence is needed when Obama is basically admitting this happened.

We probably need to see Obama pulled to congress to testify under oath about the loosening of NSA rules in the final days in office.

I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

Not necessarily needing proof means that you are willing to deal with the he said she said mentality. I'll wait for concrete evidence from the FISA.

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So someone had probable cause! Congrats Repubs, you voted for a traitor.

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:38 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For all of those who are wondering if Trump was really wire tapped or not, reports are starting to trickle in from sources that it did happen. Of course, when Obama put out his half-ass statement rife with Clintonian speak, we should have known that would be the case.

So if these sources are so credible why hasn't someone from the white house made an official statement about it and present the evidence?

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We've been waiting for 3 months for your side to present evidence about Russia.

And no evidence is needed when Obama is basically admitting this happened.

We probably need to see Obama pulled to congress to testify under oath about the loosening of NSA rules in the final days in office.

I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Obama had the chance to go into the sunset with an OK rating. I don't feel bad for him. He phucked with the wrong person and he'll be ruined. SAD

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(03-04-2017 09:50 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:38 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For all of those who are wondering if Trump was really wire tapped or not, reports are starting to trickle in from sources that it did happen. Of course, when Obama put out his half-ass statement rife with Clintonian speak, we should have known that would be the case.

So if these sources are so credible why hasn't someone from the white house made an official statement about it and present the evidence?

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We've been waiting for 3 months for your side to present evidence about Russia.

And no evidence is needed when Obama is basically admitting this happened.

We probably need to see Obama pulled to congress to testify under oath about the loosening of NSA rules in the final days in office.

I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Obama had the chance to go into the sunset with an OK rating. I don't feel bad for him. He phucked with the wrong person and he'll be ruined. SAD

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I highly doubt it but ok.

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(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:38 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 08:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For all of those who are wondering if Trump was really wire tapped or not, reports are starting to trickle in from sources that it did happen. Of course, when Obama put out his half-ass statement rife with Clintonian speak, we should have known that would be the case.

So if these sources are so credible why hasn't someone from the white house made an official statement about it and present the evidence?

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We've been waiting for 3 months for your side to present evidence about Russia.

And no evidence is needed when Obama is basically admitting this happened.

We probably need to see Obama pulled to congress to testify under oath about the loosening of NSA rules in the final days in office.

I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

The DoJ ordered it. Loretta Lynch. Bill Clinton on a tarmac. Hillary is taking Obama down with her. This was all so Hillary could be president.

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(03-04-2017 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So someone had probable cause! Congrats Repubs, you voted for a traitor.

Are you really this naive?

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(03-04-2017 09:55 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So someone had probable cause! Congrats Repubs, you voted for a traitor.

Are you really this naive?

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Deflect, Deflect, Deflect.

(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

Yep. The statement was carefully worded so a response could be quickly given to counter the POTUS's tweet. I think it is telling of what was NOT stated. All the same, let the facts come out...

(03-04-2017 09:55 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So someone had probable cause! Congrats Repubs, you voted for a traitor.

Are you really this naive?

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Yes, he is. He believes anything they feed him about Republicans.

He is supporting a traitor, someone who had nothing but contempt for America and for our constitution. The Democrats were the ones trying to undermine the election.

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

Yep. The statement was carefully worded so a response could be quickly given to counter the POTUS's tweet. I think it is telling of what was NOT stated. All the same, let the facts come out...

The response was awful. So easy to see through. He would have been better off going silent.

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(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

Quite frankly, if this statement is literally true, then Obama and the white house were derelict in their duties.

(03-04-2017 10:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

Yep. The statement was carefully worded so a response could be quickly given to counter the POTUS's tweet. I think it is telling of what was NOT stated. All the same, let the facts come out...

The response was awful. So easy to see through. He would have been better off going silent.

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Agree. But as we've seen time and time again - the power of the President's tweets. These dopes fall for it every time.

Of course it is false. The department heads work for Obama, but not the "White House". Lynch, Comey, Holder, NSA, CIA... None of them were "White House Officials"

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(03-04-2017 10:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:33 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I will find my posts were I said that evidence need to be presented about Russia. I agree with you on that. Also please show me were Pres. Obama admitted to wire tap.

I'm sorry but just saying that sources said this and that is not enough.

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Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

Yep. The statement was carefully worded so a response could be quickly given to counter the POTUS's tweet. I think it is telling of what was NOT stated. All the same, let the facts come out...

The response was awful. So easy to see through. He would have been better off going silent.

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Agree. But as we've seen time and time again - the power of the President's tweets. These dopes fall for it every time.

Ok. Some of you guys aren't making any sense. First you say that since there is no response and he and his people are silent then he must be guilty. When he does responds which is a simple no I didn't do it. It's not true then he's guilty. Wouldn't it be easier to just wait for the hard evidence?

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(03-04-2017 06:34 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 06:19 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 05:12 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So instead of tricky Dick Nixon, can we begin to call Trump conny Don? They will both end up the same way, that's for sure.

Are you high right now? This is about fmr. Pres. Obama. Try to keep up, or put down the "hippie lettuce"...whichever applies.

I've never used tobacco or marijuana (or any illegal substance) in my life. My dad died of lung cancer when I was aged 5 and I've vowed never to take a puff of anything in my lifetime.

Nice try though.

So you're being deliberately obtuse? Got it.

(03-04-2017 09:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So someone had probable cause! Congrats Repubs, you voted for a traitor.

I voted for Trump. Hillary was the traitor.

(03-04-2017 10:10 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 09:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Sources have been reporting all day on the news. It happened. If you are waiting for FISA records, that may be a while since its a secret court. But it happened.

Judge Jeanine was just on examining Obamas denial today, and said it was basically written in a way that it happened.

You see, we dont necessarily have to have proof it happened. The people in the Obama administration can come out and outright deny it happened. They didnt do that. They came out and denied they ordered it, which means they know it happened.

Yep. The statement was carefully worded so a response could be quickly given to counter the POTUS's tweet. I think it is telling of what was NOT stated. All the same, let the facts come out...

The response was awful. So easy to see through. He would have been better off going silent.

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Agree. But as we've seen time and time again - the power of the President's tweets. These dopes fall for it every time.

Ok. Some of you guys aren't making any sense. First you say that since there is no response and he and his people are silent then he must be guilty. When he does responds which is a simple no I didn't do it. It's not true then he's guilty. Wouldn't it be easier to just wait for the hard evidence?

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But Obama didn't wait for the hard evidence, but instead showed his hand. Sad mistake.

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(03-04-2017 10:15 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:10 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 10:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Yep. The statement was carefully worded so a response could be quickly given to counter the POTUS's tweet. I think it is telling of what was NOT stated. All the same, let the facts come out...

The response was awful. So easy to see through. He would have been better off going silent.

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Agree. But as we've seen time and time again - the power of the President's tweets. These dopes fall for it every time.

Ok. Some of you guys aren't making any sense. First you say that since there is no response and he and his people are silent then he must be guilty. When he does responds which is a simple no I didn't do it. It's not true then he's guilty. Wouldn't it be easier to just wait for the hard evidence?

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But Obama didn't wait for the hard evidence, but instead showed his hand. Sad mistake.

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By making a statement the the accusations are false? How is that a mistake?

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Stating that neither Obama nor the Whitehouse "ordered" it doesn't mean they didn't direct someone else to "order" it or knew that it had been "ordered."

They parsed words.

If the Whitehouse had no knowledge of the surveillance orders existence they would've said something more like: "Neither President Obama nor the Whitehouse played any role nor had any knowledge of the surveillance.

Areu said her reliable source inside the Whitehouse says the Whitehouse knew.
Guessing Loretta Lapdog Lynch "ordered" it… at Obama and Jarrett's request.