We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

It does look like they hired the total opposite of Pastner in every way possible. That had to be by design.

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Ask Hugh Freeze. Rumors are that he knows a good bag man.

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Again: name one thing Keelon has done wrong or illegal.

(03-01-2017 08:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Again: name one thing Keelon has done wrong or illegal.

Maybe he needs to? Lol

(03-01-2017 08:48 PM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Again: name one thing Keelon has done wrong or illegal.

Maybe he needs to? Lol

That was sarcasm...But if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:48 PM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Again: name one thing Keelon has done wrong or illegal.

Maybe he needs to? Lol

That was sarcasm...But if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

It is a good deal as long as he is also serving adequately as Dir of Player Development.

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

Our X and O guy needs players.

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

(03-02-2017 08:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

On both sides. Keelon's $120-150K is incredible ROI when compared to $4+ million for bargain bin outcasts and 3 stars.

IMO

(03-02-2017 08:09 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

On both sides. Keelon's $120-150K is incredible ROI when compared to $4+ million for bargain bin outcasts and 3 stars.

IMO

If that is all the other guys did I would 100% agree with you.

(03-02-2017 08:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

Yeah, a soph and a frosh who combine to go for 32 points and 18 rebounds a game.

Put in another way, the Lawson's account for 43% of all points and 51% of all the team's rebounds. Oh, and 39% of all assists.

What a ripoff.

(03-02-2017 08:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

Yeah, a soph and a frosh who combine to go for 32 points and 18 rebounds a game.

Put in another way, the Lawson's account for 43% of all points and 51% of all the team's rebounds. Oh, and 39% of all assists.

What a ripoff.

And they were given zero help in the offseason - that or the help wasn't developed properly.

Chad would've been passable if he would've stayed uninjured. Passable.

Kessee and Clergeot - something was amiss on both. Neither had the season that was needed.

Azab - no comment.

Let us not forget that Jaylen Fisher was wide open when Tubby walked into the job. Jemerrio Jones was an unsigned JC. A couple of grad transfer bigs were interested, some walked through the campus. Etc.

It's funny how people do both things - say the team has NO talent and then dog the Lawsons for not doing everything.

I think they do their fair share with what they are being asked to do - neither Dedric nor KJ is a true center or power forward, yet they are logging 30+ mpg, mostly in the paint, banging with bigger defenders and then getting called out in a postgame if their rebounds aren't up to snuff.

But whatever at this point. Folks have drawn their line in the sand, so to speak.

(03-01-2017 08:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Again: name one thing Keelon has done wrong or illegal.

Nothing but he has done plenty to create a me first environment which is never good for a team. Shopping your kids for personal gain and only caring about their stats undermines what the coach is trying to build. So no he can't be arrested but he is still a piece of crap!!!

(03-02-2017 08:28 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:01 PM)Claw Wrote:  We had a cheerleader, but he needed a X's and O's guy.

Now we have a X's and O's guy that needs a cheerleader.

His cheerleader sits on the front row right behind him.

We need a good bagman...

Take Keelon salary and fill the bag.

Again: name one thing Keelon has done wrong or illegal.

Nothing but he has done plenty to create a me first environment which is never good for a team. Shopping your kids for personal gain and only caring about their stats undermines what the coach is trying to build. So no he can't be arrested but he is still a piece of crap!!!

Or maybe it was the gain of the entire family?

Their household income went up 4X from what I have been told. And there are still 2 kids in high school living at home.

Has some of it been self-serving? Sure.

Has the entire Lawson family benefited greatly from his promotion to the college ranks? Definitely.

It's not always black and white.

(03-02-2017 08:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

Yeah, a soph and a frosh who combine to go for 32 points and 18 rebounds a game.

Put in another way, the Lawson's account for 43% of all points and 51% of all the team's rebounds. Oh, and 39% of all assists.

What a ripoff.

No one is dogging the Lawsons...But again if you are going to pay over 1Million Bucks for 4 guys 250k a player...Most recruits would jump that opportunity.

(03-02-2017 10:26 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  That was sarcasm...but if he is making 150k we will be paying over a Million bucks for 4 players.

LOL - have you seen what they are paying $4+ million for?

I'll put all 4 Lawsons on the court right now against Chad, Kessee, Clergeot and Azab. You can let the 8th grader guard Chad or Kessee.

Right now. Today. 4 on 4 pickup at the Finch.

And I'll put Dedric, KJ and Chandler RIGHT NOW against Enoh, Nickelberry and Johnson.

RIGHT FREAKING NOW

Point is if you are going to buy players you can get better players at this cost.

Yeah, a soph and a frosh who combine to go for 32 points and 18 rebounds a game.

Put in another way, the Lawson's account for 43% of all points and 51% of all the team's rebounds. Oh, and 39% of all assists.

What a ripoff.

No one is dogging the Lawsons...But again if you are going to pay over 1Million Bucks for 4 guys 250k a player...Most recruits would jump that opportunity.

Where are you getting this $1MM from?