Quote:EULESS, Texas - A 17-year-old transgender wrestler who qualified for the girls state tournament while transitioning from female to male has become a high-profile test of a year-old Texas policy now being criticized by the attorney who tried to keep the athlete from competing.

Mack Beggs, a junior at Euless Trinity High School in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, won a regional championship after two opposing wrestlers forfeited, apparently over concerns that Beggs has an unfair advantage because of testosterone treatments that are part of the transition.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/transg...to-cypress

(02-24-2017 04:54 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Quote:EULESS, Texas - A 17-year-old transgender wrestler who qualified for the girls state tournament while transitioning from female to male has become a high-profile test of a year-old Texas policy now being criticized by the attorney who tried to keep the athlete from competing.

Mack Beggs, a junior at Euless Trinity High School in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, won a regional championship after two opposing wrestlers forfeited, apparently over concerns that Beggs has an unfair advantage because of testosterone treatments that are part of the transition.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/transg...to-cypress

Article only looks at one side of the equation. How would the girls feel if a boy taking estrogen competed in the girl's division?

I hate man made drugs and man made problems. Man is it's own worst enemy. This whole" you can be anything you want needs to have limits. Some things in your imagination should just stay there. Like people who think it is OK to have sex with animals.

He wants to compete as a man. The state of Texas says he is female. So he is competing where Texas says he must.

I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

She is a female who is taking a drug that some are considering to be performance enhancing. It's not that difficult to break down. The fact that she wishes she were male isn't relevant. She is female and competing in the female division, as she should. The problem is the drug she is taking. If any other female in the competition were taking that drug, she would be disqualified.

(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

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And the anti-Trans folks don't believe in any science anyway. And to humiliate and abuse Trans kids for 20 or 30 years until the research that those opposed to them wont accept anyway is just another form of abuse.

(02-24-2017 07:04 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  She is a female who is taking a drug that some are considering to be performance enhancing. It's not that difficult to break down. The fact that she wishes she were male isn't relevant. She is female and competing in the female division, as she should. The problem is the drug she is taking. If any other female in the competition were taking that drug, she would be disqualified.

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(02-24-2017 07:04 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  She is a female who is taking a drug that some are considering to be performance enhancing. It's not that difficult to break down. The fact that she wishes she were male isn't relevant. She is female and competing in the female division, as she should. The problem is the drug she is taking. If any other female in the competition were taking that drug, she would be disqualified.

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(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

Ding ding ding.

Dan Henderson needed Testosterone Replacement Treatment and it was closely monitored during his time in MMA. Many claimed it was unfair but he was under more scrunity than someone like Jon Jones or Brock Lesnar who have bother failed tests for performance enhancing drugs.

(02-24-2017 07:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

(02-24-2017 07:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

(02-24-2017 07:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

Sometimes life sucks.

(02-24-2017 07:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 06:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I get it...those opposed to him want to basically BAR him from participation in public life.

That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

To quote the alphabet community, it's their decision. They don't want to deal with the consequences that's not anyone's fault but their own.

(02-24-2017 07:25 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  That's a straw man.

And I'd add that testosterone supplementation is either banned or VERY tightly regulated in every professional sport. So what you should be advocating for here is research and policy into what amount of supplementation of estrogen/testosterone is acceptable for a transgendered athlete while not conveying a competitive advantage.

So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

Sometimes life sucks.

Sometimes hateful Republicans want to make life needlessly suck for LGBT persons, out of pure malevolence.

(02-24-2017 07:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:25 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So a blanket ban on Trans people in sports?

Basically a ban on participation. No stigma in being banned from sports in high school, huh?

There's always an excuse to abuse the Trans person, it seems.

In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

Sometimes life sucks.

Sometimes hateful Republicans want to make life needlessly suck for LGBT persons, out of pure malevolence.

Sometimes Gay people and Trannies make mountains out of molehills for attention.

(02-24-2017 07:50 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:25 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  In nowhere in his response did he say that. He said they need to research what's acceptable and not give a competitive edge to any transitioning athlete.

And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

Sometimes life sucks.

Sometimes hateful Republicans want to make life needlessly suck for LGBT persons, out of pure malevolence.

Sometimes Gay people and Trannies make mountains out of molehills for attention.

Some straight people (all the time) who will never face one iota of discrimination, ignore the real impact of their bigotry against LGBT persons.

When being LGBT in school doesn't result in any marginalization you can talk about molehills.

And we're talking about sports too. So I expect you to ignore any cancellations of sporting events, because sporting events are just molehills to you.....oh wait....its only a molehill when the LGBT person gets discriminated against....right?

Many of you whine worse than the Berkeley Womyns Empathy Collective when the NBA moves a basketball game.....

(02-24-2017 08:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:50 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:25 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 07:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And in the meantime, the Trans person gets stigmitized and abused.

Sometimes life sucks.

Sometimes hateful Republicans want to make life needlessly suck for LGBT persons, out of pure malevolence.

Sometimes Gay people and Trannies make mountains out of molehills for attention.

Some straight people (all the time) who will never face one iota of discrimination, ignore the real impact of their bigotry against LGBT persons.

When being LGBT in school doesn't result in any marginalization you can talk about molehills.

And we're talking about sports too. So I expect you to ignore any cancellations of sporting events, because sporting events are just molehills to you.....oh wait....its only a molehill when the LGBT person gets discriminated against....right?

Many of you whine worse than the Berkeley Womyns Empathy Collective when the NBA moves a basketball game.....

So why is it my problem if you want your dick removed? Why do I have to give you special treatment. Life's tough. You make it harder when you expect to change your biological sex and want to be part of a group that you biologically don't belong to. Again suck it up.

Tom, you're right. They are discriminating against this kid. She wants to be a he and is loading up on T to accomplish this. Good for her/him. I think they should support this individual to the fullest by letting them compete in the boy's tournament.

I think a school should but skirts on all the football players and call them the field hockey team and see how they do. V