http://heatst.com/culture-wars/campus-le...-everyone/

Quote:Students at the prestigious University of Chicago say that free speech should not apply equally to everyone. The students objected to the school’s Institute of Politics’ invitation to former Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski. They claim that allowing him to speak “normalizes bigotry” and provides a platform for fascism.

Quote:The coalition of students from U of C Resists, Graduate Students United, Students Working Against Prisons, and UChicago Socialists claim that the school’s “commitment to free expression” doesn’t require the institution to host him due to his alleged ties to white supremacists and similarly alleged calls to violence against minority groups and refugees.

They told Campus Reform that they did not call for the University to disinvite him, but rather “encouraged [the person who invited him] to reconsider and rescind the invitation,” as if it makes a difference.

Quote:“Lewandowski is not the first Trump surrogate to be invited to the Institute of Politics. Last month, Sean Spicer, Trump’s Press Secretary and Director of Communications, spoke in the same series,” it states. “By hosting figures like Spicer and Lewandowski the Institute of Politics suggests that the ideas and ideologies they represent are debatable positions within the range of normal politics.”

Free speech, it claims, should not extend to Trump surrogates.

“It sends a positive signal to white supremacists that they are welcome here,” the students declare. “This exposes the most vulnerable members of our community to even greater risk. That is unacceptable.”

Quote:Speaking to The Chicagoist, IoP Executive Director Steve Edwards says that he respects the students’ right to protest but believes it’s necessary to invite guests who can provide insight into Trump’s campaign, adding that ““people are free to contest, criticize, and protest views expressed on campus so long as they do not obstruct or interfere with the freedom of others to express their views.”

So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

Dumb. Lewandowski seems like a fool, but not a white supremacist from what I've ever seen. There's no reason he shouldn't speak.

I would hope that the school balances out the speakers, though. I know UNT has a speaker series sponsored by an alum where every speaker is a former general, Fox News, Rudy Giuliani, etc.

The move to end free speech is a prime example of the left not having even a clue what this country was founded on and what our Constitution is about. Well, like Trump's win and all the losses of the Dems across the country in State Houses and in Congress, they will fail miserably yet again on this free speech issue.

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

Thankfully, the University of Chicago is famous for its support of free expression over the years, probably moreso than any other elite university in the US. Part of that probably has to do with the strength of its non-liberal arts programs in science, medicine, law, and business imo.

Fascism is the new racism. These idiots are seriously going to double down on the same mistake, aren't they?

(02-18-2017 03:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

So when right wing schools limit moderate/progressive speech, its great
But when a moderate school limits right wing speech, its awful.

Gotcha.

(02-18-2017 03:43 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

So when right wing schools limit moderate/progressive speech, its great
But when a moderate school limits right wing speech, its awful.

Gotcha.

Nope private schools cam limit whoever they want. It is just stupid for cry baby students to call people bigots, racists, white supremacists and use that for a reason why the speaker should be uninvited. If you don't like what you think they speak about then don't go to the event. This is why you lost the election.

(02-18-2017 03:43 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

So when right wing schools limit moderate/progressive speech, its great
But when a moderate school limits right wing speech, its awful.
Gotcha.

"Abortion is great" is not moderate speech.

(02-18-2017 03:43 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

So when right wing schools limit moderate/progressive speech, its great
But when a moderate school limits right wing speech, its awful.

Gotcha.

If the school had invited a skinhead, white supremacist that espoused killing minorities, I might understand their problem with it. Their "branding" of a candidate for president's campaign manager with the same labels is just the latest example of trying to squelch another opinion.

This is much more like "fake news"/ "fake labels".

Keep doubling down on this tactic - I want more conservatives in office.

(02-18-2017 03:43 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

So when right wing schools limit moderate/progressive speech, its great
But when a moderate school limits right wing speech, its awful.

Gotcha.

Missed the point still.

Piss people off, you feel virtuous,

They don't vote for you.

Well done. You lose.

(02-18-2017 03:42 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Fascism is the new racism. These idiots are seriously going to double down on the same mistake, aren't they?

yep. It's the same reason conservatism is the new counter culture. they've lost it.

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(02-18-2017 03:12 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The move to end free speech is a prime example of the left not having even a clue what this country was founded on and what our Constitution is about. Well, like Trump's win and all the losses of the Dems across the country in State Houses and in Congress, they will fail miserably yet again on this free speech issue.

This has nothing to do with Constitutional free speech. I don't like the idea of universities limiting students' exposure to differing views. But this isn't a Constitutional issue.

(02-18-2017 03:42 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Fascism is the new racism. These idiots are seriously going to double down on the same mistake, aren't they?

And what's truly bizarre is that the left is now far closer to fascism than the right.

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

Comparing Bob Jones to Univ Chicago.

(02-18-2017 04:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:43 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So glad to know that private schools cannot limit speakers on campus. Looking forward to the abortion is great speech at Liberty University or Bob Jones.

This attitude is why your party lost the prseidency, the Senate, the house, majority of governors, state legislatures. Keep it up.

So when right wing schools limit moderate/progressive speech, its great
But when a moderate school limits right wing speech, its awful.

Gotcha.

If the school had invited a skinhead, white supremacist that espoused killing minorities, I might understand their problem with it. Their "branding" of a candidate for president's campaign manager with the same labels is just the latest example of trying to squelch another opinion.

This is much more like "fake news"/ "fake labels".

Keep doubling down on this tactic - I want more conservatives in office.

I think even these totalitarian anti-American idiots in Chicago should have the right to free speech.

(02-18-2017 04:56 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:12 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The move to end free speech is a prime example of the left not having even a clue what this country was founded on and what our Constitution is about. Well, like Trump's win and all the losses of the Dems across the country in State Houses and in Congress, they will fail miserably yet again on this free speech issue.

This has nothing to do with Constitutional free speech. I don't like the idea of universities limiting students' exposure to differing views. But this isn't a Constitutional issue.

What happened at Berkeley was a Constitutional issue. They shut down a speech that others wanted to hear. And it wasn't even a UC sponsored event. It was the campus Republicans.

I agree with them. Someone tell 'em to shut up.

(02-18-2017 05:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 04:56 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 03:12 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The move to end free speech is a prime example of the left not having even a clue what this country was founded on and what our Constitution is about. Well, like Trump's win and all the losses of the Dems across the country in State Houses and in Congress, they will fail miserably yet again on this free speech issue.

This has nothing to do with Constitutional free speech. I don't like the idea of universities limiting students' exposure to differing views. But this isn't a Constitutional issue.

What happened at Berkeley was a Constitutional issue. They shut down a speech that others wanted to hear. And it wasn't even a UC sponsored event. It was the campus Republicans.

Sure. This isn't though.