(02-16-2017 10:37 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Logic dictates something probably happened, but it was minor. The people involved have embellished it because they were upset and, like any rumor, it grows by each person who repeats it. I've always viewed this as a few players got pissy. Maybe walked out. End of story. The mother in question may have been a parent to one of those kids. Far be it for a 20 year old boy to exagerate a few players into "almost the entire team". Logic would say 100 guys walking out = 100x 10 friends, family, girlfriends who would have heard about it and tweeted it.

Ive never seen an NIU team lay down like that team did against Boise, something had to have happened and the walk out stuff makes sense. That felt like watching the Black Sox that day.

(02-16-2017 10:50 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 10:37 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Logic dictates something probably happened, but it was minor. The people involved have embellished it because they were upset and, like any rumor, it grows by each person who repeats it. I've always viewed this as a few players got pissy. Maybe walked out. End of story. The mother in question may have been a parent to one of those kids. Far be it for a 20 year old boy to exagerate a few players into "almost the entire team". Logic would say 100 guys walking out = 100x 10 friends, family, girlfriends who would have heard about it and tweeted it.

Ive never seen an NIU team lay down like that team did against Boise, something had to have happened and the walk out stuff makes sense. That felt like watching the Black Sox that day.

Ryan Graham happened. I noticed that at some point last season.. Whenever Graham stepped out on the field, the teams shoulders slumped and they looked defeated.. Add a leg brace to an unhealthy Graham and the team probably felt like a lamb being led to slaughter. Graham missed a wide open Galloday for a tying touchdown early in the first quarter and the team said F-it. This guy can't play. Plus Boise was just way better.

OfNg

(02-16-2017 10:10 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  109 guys on the roster in one of the programs. Don't know how many travel.

It was at a morning all team meeting b4 they had gone to SD you morron. Carey refused to let Perez Ford talk and ordered the guys to position rooms and they refused then carey told the coaches to get the bowl gear from the lockers and the team all ran to the lockers grabed the gear and left the building and refused to practice that day. 20 srs then met with Frazier and said team would not go to bowl if Carey was allowed to coach. Frazier convinced them to go and you saw the results.

Deny if u want but those are all FACTS

Randy you da man! Raandyyyyyy!

(02-16-2017 10:50 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 10:37 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Logic dictates something probably happened, but it was minor. The people involved have embellished it because they were upset and, like any rumor, it grows by each person who repeats it. I've always viewed this as a few players got pissy. Maybe walked out. End of story. The mother in question may have been a parent to one of those kids. Far be it for a 20 year old boy to exagerate a few players into "almost the entire team". Logic would say 100 guys walking out = 100x 10 friends, family, girlfriends who would have heard about it and tweeted it.

Ive never seen an NIU team lay down like that team did against Boise, something had to have happened and the walk out stuff makes sense. That felt like watching the Black Sox that day.

Something happened, Rod Carey happened. This team has completely underperformed in postseason games under his leadership. That has now bled over to the regular season where we get blown out by teams like USF and lose to 1-AA schools.

(02-16-2017 10:23 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 10:17 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  I happened to sit next to a player's mom at Guaranteed Rate Field last fall and she gave me the scoop on the Great Boise Walkout of 2015. It supports what Randy says and is pretty much what we surmised a long time ago.

-Everyone was in a foul mood after the losses to Ohio and BGSU.

-They were going through a lackluster bowl-prep practice and Coach Carey was not happy.

-Toward the end of the practice Coach Carey blew his stack and told the players he wanted them to repeat the entire practice from the beginning.

-The players told him to screw himself and walked out.

-Cooler heads eventually prevailed and the team went to San Diego and got their a$$e$ handed to them by Boise.

This all makes sense and frankly I don't think it's a big deal. No one SHOULD have been happy at that point. Also, teams have stuff go on all the time. The only remarkable thing about this incident is that we know about it. These dustups used to be kept inhouse pre-social media days.

I sent this exact post to our starting LT and he once again said it didn't happen and nothing out of the ordinary happened soooooo......

You have no idea what you're talking about, buddy. Sorry, but the walk-out did happen and you have no inside source. Levon is not going to come out and tell you, a random adult, what exactly happened. If he started telling every NIU fan he comes in contact with about what happened it would get ugly real fast. Randy knows what he is talking about, and quite frankly, you don't. Sorry to break the news to you but you don't know everything like you might think. I heard the story first-hand just as Randy did, and it did happen... So I am confused why you are doubting him.

(02-16-2017 10:24 PM)NIU32 Wrote:  Average salary in the CFL is only $80k. He'd probably make just as much if not more coaching at NIU where I'm a legend and be closer to home. I'd much rather do that then be a backup in the CFL... Hope this news turns out to be right


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No more damage to his body would be worth something too.

As of the Signing Day event Lynch was only planned on being a TEMP GA coach. So maybe with this recent coaching shuffling a spot opened for him to join full time.

I hope Cam Stingly is still GA on the team.

(02-17-2017 09:32 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  As of the Signing Day event Lynch was only planned on being a TEMP GA coach. So maybe with this recent coaching shuffling a spot opened for him to join full time.

I hope Cam Stingly is still GA on the team.

Yes, that is exactly what I heard. Nothing about Lynch being full time RB coach, obviously things could have changed since the event, but what HuskieJohn said is to the best of my knowledge what is happening.

(02-17-2017 08:13 AM)NiuFootballfan Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 10:23 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 10:17 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  I happened to sit next to a player's mom at Guaranteed Rate Field last fall and she gave me the scoop on the Great Boise Walkout of 2015. It supports what Randy says and is pretty much what we surmised a long time ago.

-Everyone was in a foul mood after the losses to Ohio and BGSU.

-They were going through a lackluster bowl-prep practice and Coach Carey was not happy.

-Toward the end of the practice Coach Carey blew his stack and told the players he wanted them to repeat the entire practice from the beginning.

-The players told him to screw himself and walked out.

-Cooler heads eventually prevailed and the team went to San Diego and got their a$$e$ handed to them by Boise.

This all makes sense and frankly I don't think it's a big deal. No one SHOULD have been happy at that point. Also, teams have stuff go on all the time. The only remarkable thing about this incident is that we know about it. These dustups used to be kept inhouse pre-social media days.

I sent this exact post to our starting LT and he once again said it didn't happen and nothing out of the ordinary happened soooooo......

You have no idea what you're talking about, buddy. Sorry, but the walk-out did happen and you have no inside source. Levon is not going to come out and tell you, a random adult, what exactly happened. If he started telling every NIU fan he comes in contact with about what happened it would get ugly real fast. Randy knows what he is talking about, and quite frankly, you don't. Sorry to break the news to you but you don't know everything like you might think. I heard the story first-hand just as Randy did, and it did happen... So I am confused why you are doubting him.

For people to doubt the validity of this event should not be offensive. This is not a fact yet. it's still just a rumor. A fact would have sources to cite. I understand if someone doesnt want to name the source of their info, but if they don't, it's really nothing more than rumor. I can't go to the Chronicle with "Randy6969" as a quotable source. This board is pretty big and I'm sure many people have some form of connection to the team, so the doubt isn't aimed at Randy or yourself, but more so that an event of this magnitude occurred and yet only 2 people can verify it. Not calling anyone wrong, I just think there is some details lost in the second hand info being received. No ones "insider info" rep is on trial. Its just a big accusation. Big accusations should only be accepted with proof.

(02-16-2017 11:38 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  OfNg

(02-16-2017 10:10 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  109 guys on the roster in one of the programs. Don't know how many travel.

It was at a morning all team meeting b4 they had gone to SD you morron. Carey refused to let Perez Ford talk and ordered the guys to position rooms and they refused then carey told the coaches to get the bowl gear from the lockers and the team all ran to the lockers grabed the gear and left the building and refused to practice that day. 20 srs then met with Frazier and said team would not go to bowl if Carey was allowed to coach. Frazier convinced them to go and you saw the results.

Deny if u want but those are all FACTS

Don't call me a moron, I wasn't the one questioning you. I pointed out there were more than 100 on the roster, and that I don't know how many travel, which is true, I don't. If you can't read my post then you're the moron.

Why RB coach? Why not QB coach instead?

Hiring Jordan as a coach would be a big deal, yet, there is nothing mentioned on the NIU website...Surely, such a splashy hire would warrant a major press release.

(02-17-2017 02:07 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Hiring Jordan as a coach would be a big deal, yet, there is nothing mentioned on the NIU website...Surely, such a splashy hire would warrant a major press release.

No announcmeent because he's playing QB in the CFL lol.

(02-17-2017 02:07 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Hiring Jordan as a coach would be a big deal, yet, there is nothing mentioned on the NIU website...Surely, such a splashy hire would warrant a major press release.

It'll be announced right after the master plan announcement.

(02-17-2017 03:37 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 02:07 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Hiring Jordan as a coach would be a big deal, yet, there is nothing mentioned on the NIU website...Surely, such a splashy hire would warrant a major press release.

It'll be announced right after the master plan announcement.

Damn

First of all, he was a QB not a RB and there is a difference.
Next, he has zero coaching experience, zero. And you're going to hire him at a D1 program?
Third, Carey said quite clearly that he was hired on until it was for him to report for football in the CFL.
And let's not forget the football walkout and boycott of Carey. I see it's resurfaced but only to the point where it's still in the I know a guy or a mother who knows this to be a fact stage. I don't care if the so-called source was supposed to be a player, someone who was there needs to step up in public and vouch for it in public. This second-hand business carries no weight with me or a lot of people.
Just another piece of message board garbage ala the first football game going to Rockford or Aurora and the guy up north who the inside info on the master plan announcement but couldn't reveal anything more he said that he'd already said too much. I call BS and, if I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

(02-17-2017 04:23 PM)sportsfan Wrote:  First of all, he was a QB not a RB and there is a difference.
Next, he has zero coaching experience, zero. And you're going to hire him at a D1 program?
Third, Carey said quite clearly that he was hired on until it was for him to report for football in the CFL.
And let's not forget the football walkout and boycott of Carey. I see it's resurfaced but only to the point where it's still in the I know a guy or a mother who knows this to be a fact stage. I don't care if the so-called source was supposed to be a player, someone who was there needs to step up in public and vouch for it in public. This second-hand business carries no weight with me or a lot of people.
Just another piece of message board garbage ala the first football game going to Rockford or Aurora and the guy up north who the inside info on the master plan announcement but couldn't reveal anything more he said that he'd already said too much. I call BS and, if I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

I can't personally say one way or another if the "walk out" ever happened, but expecting a player, coach, or AD to publicly admit it is not a very realistic expectation. None of them will nor should they do such a thing. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though. The fact is most of us will never know for sure.

What is for sure is the beat down NIU took in that bowl game was by far the most statistically lobsided bowl game ever. So, I hope there was some type of a cataclysmic event such as a walk out. It would at least provide some type of explanation as to how such a disaster could occur.

(02-17-2017 04:50 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 04:23 PM)sportsfan Wrote:  First of all, he was a QB not a RB and there is a difference.
Next, he has zero coaching experience, zero. And you're going to hire him at a D1 program?
Third, Carey said quite clearly that he was hired on until it was for him to report for football in the CFL.
And let's not forget the football walkout and boycott of Carey. I see it's resurfaced but only to the point where it's still in the I know a guy or a mother who knows this to be a fact stage. I don't care if the so-called source was supposed to be a player, someone who was there needs to step up in public and vouch for it in public. This second-hand business carries no weight with me or a lot of people.
Just another piece of message board garbage ala the first football game going to Rockford or Aurora and the guy up north who the inside info on the master plan announcement but couldn't reveal anything more he said that he'd already said too much. I call BS and, if I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

I can't personally say one way or another if the "walk out" ever happened, but expecting a player, coach, or AD to publicly admit it is not a very realistic expectation. None of them will nor should they do such a thing. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though. The fact is most of us will never know for sure.

What is for sure is the beat down NIU took in that bowl game was by far the most statistically lobsided bowl game ever. So, I hope there was some type of a cataclysmic event such as a walk out. It would at least provide some type of explanation as to how such a disaster could occur.

If someone were to come forward, it would probably be a player who has left the program one way or another. What about the player who's mother was supposedly called a drunk by Carey? That story has been floated around on these boards. You would think that guy would have something to say.
As to the game itself, I agree that Graham just could not compete given the injury and his skill set. The fact that we kept giving it back to BSU and that we could not stop them led to the score. With a healthy #1 or #2 QB, we still might not win but we'd have some offense and maybe the score is in the 38- 24 range or something similar. No one will ever know.

(02-17-2017 05:05 PM)sportsfan Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 04:50 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 04:23 PM)sportsfan Wrote:  First of all, he was a QB not a RB and there is a difference.
Next, he has zero coaching experience, zero. And you're going to hire him at a D1 program?
Third, Carey said quite clearly that he was hired on until it was for him to report for football in the CFL.
And let's not forget the football walkout and boycott of Carey. I see it's resurfaced but only to the point where it's still in the I know a guy or a mother who knows this to be a fact stage. I don't care if the so-called source was supposed to be a player, someone who was there needs to step up in public and vouch for it in public. This second-hand business carries no weight with me or a lot of people.
Just another piece of message board garbage ala the first football game going to Rockford or Aurora and the guy up north who the inside info on the master plan announcement but couldn't reveal anything more he said that he'd already said too much. I call BS and, if I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

I can't personally say one way or another if the "walk out" ever happened, but expecting a player, coach, or AD to publicly admit it is not a very realistic expectation. None of them will nor should they do such a thing. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though. The fact is most of us will never know for sure.

What is for sure is the beat down NIU took in that bowl game was by far the most statistically lobsided bowl game ever. So, I hope there was some type of a cataclysmic event such as a walk out. It would at least provide some type of explanation as to how such a disaster could occur.

If someone were to come forward, it would probably be a player who has left the program one way or another. What about the player who's mother was supposedly called a drunk by Carey? That story has been floated around on these boards. You would think that guy would have something to say.
As to the game itself, I agree that Graham just could not compete given the injury and his skill set. The fact that we kept giving it back to BSU and that we could not stop them led to the score. With a healthy #1 or #2 QB, we still might not win but we'd have some offense and maybe the score is in the 38- 24 range or something similar. No one will ever know.

The defense didn't show up either, even at the very beginning of the game. It wasn't just Graham.